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Old 03-13-2021, 06:53 PM   #1
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RIP Marvin Hagler

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Old 03-13-2021, 08:01 PM   #2
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I was a big fan. Same age as me and I complain about how I feel.

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Old 03-13-2021, 09:24 PM   #3
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Yes RIP, one of the greats!

Just heard the news on Showtime.
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Old 03-14-2021, 08:25 AM   #4
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RIP Hagler. One of the greats. Still think he was robbed against Leonard.

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Old 03-14-2021, 09:39 AM   #5
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A true legend and an all-time great, what a legacy he leaves. I am reminded of the quote from the sportswriter Jimmy Cannon when he heard of Rocky Marciano's death, "Just start counting ten over him, he'll soon get up."


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Old 03-19-2021, 06:26 PM   #6
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Max Kellerman had a nice tribute to Hagler to open his show today.

He mentioned his fight vs Ray & said his fighting righty & trying to box those 1st 4 rounds was a mistake and cost him so he was down 4-0 & doesn't think Hagler won 7 of the last 8 rounds to earn a decision.

I agree.
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Old 03-20-2021, 09:49 AM   #7
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Max Kellerman had a nice tribute to Hagler to open his show today.

He mentioned his fight vs Ray & said his fighting righty & trying to box those 1st 4 rounds was a mistake and cost him so he was down 4-0 & doesn't think Hagler won 7 of the last 8 rounds to earn a decision.

I agree.

Yeah that's how I've always seen it too, Hagler gave the first four rounds away, which made it difficult for him to win a decision over 12 rounds. I have never seen it as a robbery though, just a close fight that could have gone either way. People who say Hagler was robbed or you have to definitively take the title off the champ, I have no time for that type of opinion.
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Old 03-20-2021, 10:14 PM   #8
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Yeah that's how I've always seen it too, Hagler gave the first four rounds away, which made it difficult for him to win a decision over 12 rounds. I have never seen it as a robbery though, just a close fight that could have gone either way. People who say Hagler was robbed or you have to definitively take the title off the champ, I have no time for that type of opinion.
I totally agree Rob! Few years ago I was on another site & that fight came up & wrote what we discussed here - 1 guy there thought Hagler won too but then watched the fight again & admitted now he could see how Ray won that fight.

A job I had years ago guys there thought Ray needed to knock down or KO Hagler to take the title & I told those guys it's called boxing for a reason.
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Old 03-21-2021, 05:51 AM   #9
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One thing I have learned; how to start an argument in a boxing group, bring up the Hagler - Leonard result! Not that we are arguing in this forum anyway.
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Old 03-21-2021, 08:50 AM   #10
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I've watched that fight many times and I have always thought Hagler won the fight. But by no means was it a robbery. However the 118-110 scorecard for Leonard was a little ridiculous
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One thing I have learned; how to start an argument in a boxing group, bring up the Hagler - Leonard result! Not that we are arguing in this forum anyway.
lol, no doubt!
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Old 03-21-2021, 10:12 AM   #12
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I've watched that fight many times and I have always thought Hagler won the fight. But by no means was it a robbery. However the 118-110 scorecard for Leonard was a little ridiculous

Yeah that was the Mexican judge Jo Jo Guerrera (?) who turned in that ridiculous scorecard. He was a late replacement for Harry Gibbs, a UK judge who the Hagler camp objected to. Sat at home Gibbs scored the fight for Hagler.
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