Is it too late to ask?

[Dave Stieb II]

I've never engaged in the 'what I'd like to see in the next version of ootp' threads because I haven't the faintest clue about programming and, therefore, what is legitimately do-able.

But I'm excited about the new season ahead and I have two simple and specific requests for OOTP22; and I'm hoping it's not too late to see them implemented.

1) Can we put to rest the idea that the Padres owner is a penny pincher?
I mean, AJ Preller was first allowed to spend like crazy about six years ago (seems longer now). They blew that team up quickly. Understandable.
Three years ago the signed Hosmer to an unfortunate long term deal, just to spend some money I guess.
Two years ago they gave Manny 10 X $30m.
And now they've built the first serious NL West team to threaten the Dodgers in almost a decade by absorbing the Snell and Darvish contracts and adding pretty much whatever they felt they needed to get the job done.
AND they doled out the Tatis contract.
I'm a Blue Jays fan and I know how penny-pinching owners and management operate and speak (well, at least since AA left and until this offseason).
The San Diego owner is definitely not a penny pincher.

2) Now that the Mets have an owner who is fully engaged - both emotionally and financially - can the devs 'un-do' the code that intentionally sabotages the Mets in each new version of the game?

OK. That second request was written with tongue firmly in cheek. I hope I didn't sabotage my first request, which is legitimate.

[GeoWar]

what are the new features and changes to the franchise mode of the game for 22

[andyhdz]

Originally Posted by Dave Stieb II

I've never engaged in the 'what I'd like to see in the next version of ootp' threads because I haven't the faintest clue about programming and, therefore, what is legitimately do-able.

But I'm excited about the new season ahead and I have two simple and specific requests for OOTP22; and I'm hoping it's not too late to see them implemented.

1) Can we put to rest the idea that the Padres owner is a penny pincher?
I mean, AJ Preller was first allowed to spend like crazy about six years ago (seems longer now). They blew that team up quickly. Understandable.
Three years ago the signed Hosmer to an unfortunate long term deal, just to spend some money I guess.
Two years ago they gave Manny 10 X $30m.
And now they've built the first serious NL West team to threaten the Dodgers in almost a decade by absorbing the Snell and Darvish contracts and adding pretty much whatever they felt they needed to get the job done.
AND they doled out the Tatis contract.
I'm a Blue Jays fan and I know how penny-pinching owners and management operate and speak (well, at least since AA left and until this offseason).
The San Diego owner is definitely not a penny pincher.

2) Now that the Mets have an owner who is fully engaged - both emotionally and financially - can the devs 'un-do' the code that intentionally sabotages the Mets in each new version of the game?

OK. That second request was written with tongue firmly in cheek. I hope I didn't sabotage my first request, which is legitimate.

It's always funny how Mets fans think of themselves as long suffering when they have 5 pennants and 2 World Series titles much more than plenty of other teams in MLB. Come on Man.

[rktaker]

ignore

[AESP_pres]

Originally Posted by Dave Stieb II

I'm a Blue Jays fan and I know how penny-pinching owners and management operate and speak.

You think you know... try being an Expos fan after the 1994 strike season.

[low]

Originally Posted by andyhdz

It's always funny how Mets fans think of themselves as long suffering when they have 5 pennants and 2 World Series titles much more than plenty of other teams in MLB. Come on Man.

Those poor fans. It must be terrible for those teams with 180 million-dollar payrolls.

[OBSL Commish]

Originally Posted by Dave Stieb II

I'm a Blue Jays fan and I know how penny-pinching owners and management operate and speak.

That's kind of funny, considering that, when Toronto won back-to-back World Series in the early 90s, it had the highest payrolls in the majors.

[treymancini]

Toronto is a massive spender, they just went cheap while they waited for their prospects. They're back to throwing gobs of money now.

You know how some card collector games have a seperate division for whales? We need BoSox, Yankees, Jays, Dodgers, and Giants in one division.

[Leo_The_Lip]

Originally Posted by Dave Stieb II

I've never engaged in the 'what I'd like to see in the next version of ootp' threads because I haven't the faintest clue about programming and, therefore, what is legitimately do-able.

But I'm excited about the new season ahead and I have two simple and specific requests for OOTP22; and I'm hoping it's not too late to see them implemented.

1) Can we put to rest the idea that the Padres owner is a penny pincher?
I mean, AJ Preller was first allowed to spend like crazy about six years ago (seems longer now). They blew that team up quickly. Understandable.
Three years ago the signed Hosmer to an unfortunate long term deal, just to spend some money I guess.
Two years ago they gave Manny 10 X $30m.
And now they've built the first serious NL West team to threaten the Dodgers in almost a decade by absorbing the Snell and Darvish contracts and adding pretty much whatever they felt they needed to get the job done.
AND they doled out the Tatis contract.
I'm a Blue Jays fan and I know how penny-pinching owners and management operate and speak (well, at least since AA left and until this offseason).
The San Diego owner is definitely not a penny pincher.

2) Now that the Mets have an owner who is fully engaged - both emotionally and financially - can the devs 'un-do' the code that intentionally sabotages the Mets in each new version of the game?

OK. That second request was written with tongue firmly in cheek. I hope I didn't sabotage my first request, which is legitimate.

You do know that all of the above can be quickly and easily edited? If not, ask how and all will be revealed.

[Dave Stieb II]

Originally Posted by OBSL Commish

That's kind of funny, considering that, when Toronto won back-to-back World Series in the early 90s, it had the highest payrolls in the majors.

Yes.
That was almost 30 years, two ownership groups, and several management teams ago; just after opening a new (at the time) "state of the art" stadium and drawing over 4m fans per year (50,000 every game) from midway 1989 through the World Series years.
Then they never spent anything worthwhile again until mid-2015, when Alex Anthopolous decided to roll the dice and indulge himself because he knew in his heart he was leaving....with new management on the horizon.
This is a team that literally passed the hat around the locker room in spring training of 2014 (I think) to try to cobble together a deal for (again, I think) Ervin Santana. The Jays asked several players to defer monies to fit it into their payroll structure.
So, in that light, i don't see much funny about my point.
But if drawing on what occurred under the original management group almost 30 years ago gives you a chuckle, I won't rain on your parade.

[Caporegime]

Originally Posted by Dave Stieb II

Yes.
That was almost 30 years, two ownership groups, and several management teams ago; just after opening a new (at the time) "state of the art" stadium and drawing over 4m fans per year (50,000 every game) from midway 1989 through the World Series years.
Then they never spent anything worthwhile again until mid-2015, when Alex Anthopolous decided to roll the dice and indulge himself because he knew in his heart he was leaving....with new management on the horizon.
This is a team that literally passed the hat around the locker room in spring training of 2014 (I think) to try to cobble together a deal for (again, I think) Ervin Santana. The Jays asked several players to defer monies to fit it into their payroll structure.
So, in that light, i don't see much funny about my point.
But if drawing on what occurred under the original management group almost 30 years ago gives you a chuckle, I won't rain on your parade.

Umm, not to speak for the Commish, but I don't think he meant the phrase "That's kind of funny" literally. It's a figure of speech. I honestly don't think he's lying intubated in a hospital bed someplace waiting for emergency surgery because he tore several abdominal muscles laughing at the Blue Jays (mis)fortunes these past three decades or so.

[Dave Stieb II]

Originally Posted by treymancini

Toronto is a massive spender, they just went cheap while they waited for their prospects. They're back to throwing gobs of money now.

You know how some card collector games have a seperate division for whales? We need BoSox, Yankees, Jays, Dodgers, and Giants in one division.

Toronto WAS a massive spender almost 30 years ago, when they were drawing 4m fans per season in a new (cha ching) stadium.
Then, aside from occasionally wasting money on the likes of BJ Ryan and a massive poorly conceived extension for Vernon Wells, they never spent again until they absorbed contracts in the great 2015 mid-season overhaul.
Which, of course, led to ALCS appearances in 2015 and 2016.
Finally, now, they've started to spend and I agree with the timing.
But, historically, this franchise has seldom spent the type of money it should given the size of their local and country-wide markets.

[Dave Stieb II]

Originally Posted by Caporegime

Umm, not to speak for the Commish, but I don't think he meant the phrase "That's kind of funny" literally. It's a figure of speech. I honestly don't think he's lying intubated in a hospital bed someplace waiting for emergency surgery because he tore several abdominal muscles laughing at the Blue Jays (mis)fortunes these past three decades or so.

OK. Thanks for the clarification. Now, if we may, back to the original point....the facts about management and it's miserly ways given their market(s).

[GoPedro99]

No one hare can complain about penny pinching owners more than A's and Pirates fans. At least your teams DO spend money! As a Pirates fan, it is miserable

[Dave Stieb II]

Originally Posted by GoPedro99

No one hare can complain about penny pinching owners more than A's and Pirates fans. At least your teams DO spend money! As a Pirates fan, it is miserable

Agreed. I feel your pain.
But my 'throw away' line re: Blue Jays' thriftiness (prior to this off season) had much to do with spending vs. market size.

Toronto is a large market in itself, but the Jays' thrive with a national market of almost 40m and the related merchandise sales and TV viewership.

And, oh, by the way, the team is owned by Rogers Communications, who 'sell' the full TV and radio broadcast rights to, guess who, Rogers Communications. That's the media rights to a 40m audience.

They also sell tickets to many of the fans across Canada and boost the local economy when the team is doing well.

The unspoken truth is that they have a monopoly on a market larger than any other in baseball. Yes, including the Dodgers, Yankees, Cubs, Red Sox, etc.
So they should spend with the big pants boys but they seldom have.
If you build it, they will come...and watch on your media...and buy your merchandise.

But enough about that 'throw away' line. My original point was that the San Diego owner is definitely not a penny pincher.

And I stand by that, too.

[twins_34]

Originally Posted by GoPedro99

No one hare can complain about penny pinching owners more than A's and Pirates fans. At least your teams DO spend money! As a Pirates fan, it is miserable

Well, one thing is though, the A's almost pulled off penny pinching in 02. My Twins have been crap since 1991 until the past 2 years but they still can't win in the post season! We have not won a post season game since game 1 of the 2004 ALDS... We can put up 307 homeruns in a season but not win a post season game!

[Dave Stieb II]

Originally Posted by twins_34

Well, one thing is though, the A's almost pulled off penny pinching in 02. My Twins have been crap since 1991 until the past 2 years but they still can't win in the post season! We have not won a post season game since game 1 of the 2004 ALDS... We can put up 307 homeruns in a season but not win a post season game!

I think management how done more, with less, in Tampa Bay and Oakland than any other teams.
You know, I even think Pittsburgh management did some good things for the $$$ they had to work with a few years ago. But then "THE TRADE" with Tampa (one of the worst in history) and a few other poor decisions blew that to pieces.
As for the Twins, if Berrios and Maeda stay healthy, I think they have the frontline starters to win a playoff series with that offence.
From the outside looking in, it appears to me that the Twins spend a decent amount on payroll relative to their market (this pandemic off-season not factored in). Or do you disagree?

[BigRed75]

Originally Posted by Leo_The_Lip

You do know that all of the above can be quickly and easily edited? If not, ask how and all will be revealed.

I think this got lost in all the kerfuffle. And it’s really important

[twins_34]

Originally Posted by Dave Stieb II

I think management how done more, with less, in Tampa Bay and Oakland than any other teams.
You know, I even think Pittsburgh management did some good things for the $$$ they had to work with a few years ago. But then "THE TRADE" with Tampa (one of the worst in history) and a few other poor decisions blew that to pieces.
As for the Twins, if Berrios and Maeda stay healthy, I think they have the frontline starters to win a playoff series with that offence.
From the outside looking in, it appears to me that the Twins spend a decent amount on payroll relative to their market (this pandemic off-season not factored in). Or do you disagree?

Maybe these past few years but really all they did was took the money they were wasting on Joe Mauer and actually put that towards FA the past few years.

[jpeters1734]

Originally Posted by GoPedro99

No one hare can complain about penny pinching owners more than A's and Pirates fans. At least your teams DO spend money! As a Pirates fan, it is miserable

dont remind me lol