Dominant team gets swept in playoffs every time

Tony-OH · 12-01-2020, 10:28 PM

Anyone else have this same problem.

I have built a dominant team in the 80s and 90s that has won 110, 107, 99 and 114 games over the regular season the last four years

Each and every time the team gets swept in the AL Championship Series or World Series where the team plays completely different.

Hitting which dominates stops hitting. starters that won the Cy young Aware or were great all year suddenly get rocked. Relievers that were great all year can't get anyone out.

I find it's ridiculous that a team plays completely different in the playoffs. It's deflating really. What is the use of playing a team over 162 games of domination to only watch the simulation play completely different in the playoffs four years straight?

I would say this is just some weird coincidence, but I built a dominant team from the 1976 Orioles that eventually won over 100 games five years straight but I never won one World Series because the teams played completely different in the playoffs.

Maybe I just have bad luck, but has anyone else experienced these disappointing playoffs performances?

Questdog · 12-01-2020, 10:32 PM

No, my teams win it every time.....

CBeisbol · 12-01-2020, 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony-OH

Anyone else have this same problem.

I have built a dominant team in the 80s and 90s that has won 110, 107, 99 and 114 games over the regular season the last four years

Each and every time the team gets swept in the AL Championship Series or World Series where the team plays completely different.

Hitting which dominates stops hitting. starters that won the Cy young Aware or were great all year suddenly get rocked. Relievers that were great all year can't get anyone out.

I find it's ridiculous that a team plays completely different in the playoffs. It's deflating really. What is the use of playing a team over 162 games of domination to only watch the simulation play completely different in the playoffs four years straight?

I would say this is just some weird coincidence, but I built a dominant team from the 1976 Orioles that eventually won over 100 games five years straight but I never won one World Series because the teams played completely different in the playoffs.

Maybe I just have bad luck, but has anyone else experienced these disappointing playoffs performances?

Over the 162 games of domination, did those teams ever have 7 games of being dominated?

Sometimes those 7 games are in the playoffs

The_Offspring187 · 12-01-2020, 11:00 PM

I play fictional myself and have built a dominant Chicago Crows team that has won 100+ games 4 times this decade and only managed one World Series win. Two seasons ago I lost in 7 games to the Hollywood Stars. I've suffered a lot of OOTP heartbreak as well.

RchW · 12-01-2020, 11:12 PM

Been the lament of many of us for many years.

https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...t+win+playoffs

UltimateAverageGuy · 12-02-2020, 02:27 AM

Teams get 100+ wins playing 80-90% of games against non playoff teams.

The end

UltimateAverageGuy · 12-02-2020, 02:29 AM

People with the thinking of how can my team lose a seven game series never ask themselves how their team lost 50-60 games in the regular season.

Boo hoo.

rink23 · 12-02-2020, 04:51 AM

That's why I play out every inning of every game.
That way, if I lose, I not feel the AI turned on me for some reason.

FenwayPark · 12-02-2020, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Tony-OH

I have built a dominant team in the 80s and 90s that has won 110, 107, 99 and 114 games over the regular season the last four years

I play as GM only. Up until the last season I had a record of 107, 101, 112 and 101 wins in the last 4 seasons before and had not reached the World Series once. Then I fired my manager and bench coach and they were replaced by a manager and bench coach who had already reached and won the World Series. Last season I had a record of 114 wins and won the World Series 4-1.

I'm not saying that you should just replace the manager and bench coach, but sometimes smallest changes can have a big impact. Of course, luck also plays a major role.

Sweed · 12-02-2020, 09:48 AM

You may want to ask the Braves of the 90's how all of those division titles worked out for them.

BIG17EASY · 12-02-2020, 10:22 AM

Yes, I have also experienced this problem. It's called baseball being baseball.

ohiodevil · 12-02-2020, 10:32 AM

This article was written in 2018, but since 1969, the team with the best record has gone on to win the World Series 12 times.....

https://www.si.com/mlb/2018/10/01/ba...series-red-sox

BaseballNewsNow · 12-02-2020, 10:41 AM

In my Tropical Baseball League, I have lost 3x in game 7 of the Mahi Mahi Cup (World Series). Nothing feels worse than that. However, OOTP always brings me back in. My current team has essentially no budget, and in each of the past 6 years I have lost to a team with at least 2x my budget. I’m still trying to get a championship.

RchW · 12-02-2020, 11:47 AM

I'll admit that several of my playoff losses have been caused by me believing too much in my starting pitching and leaving them in too long. The rest are due to many of the other ways one can lose in OOTP and IRL.

ThePretender · 12-02-2020, 01:25 PM

There is likely a flaw in your team you are not recognizing that is being exploited against better teams. My 110-124 win teams generally do very well in the playoffs. Won't win every series but don't think I've ever been swept either.

mytreds · 12-02-2020, 05:42 PM

In my fictional league, I’ve not noticed that happening a majority of the time. In my experiences it’s an exception.

My dominant Jacksonville Black Cats have recently won 3 out of the 4 previous championships. They weren’t swept once. We were the top team every year. I play out each game but I let my coach make all the decisions. I just press 1 to progress the game.

The_Offspring187 · 12-02-2020, 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mytreds

In my fictional league, I’ve not noticed that happening a majority of the time. In my experiences it’s an exception.

My dominant Jacksonville Black Cats have recently won 3 out of the 4 previous championships. They weren’t swept once. We were the top team every year. I play out each game but I let my coach make all the decisions. I just press 1 to progress the game.

I play the same way but I dont press 1. I just turn off the pause between at bats button and kick back and watch the game. Occasionally I'll have it on while I'm doing something else and checking it frequently.

Congrats on your dominance by the way. I've been trying to win another title since I ended a 95 year curse in 2001 (it's 2006 now).

Ty Cobb · 12-02-2020, 06:31 PM

1964 Phillies. Gene Mauch...'nuff said.
1978 Red Sox. "Bucky ******* Dent."
1951 Dodgers. "The Giants win the pennant! The Giants win the pennant!"
2001 Mariners. 116 and gone.

It's baseball. 'it' happens.

r0nster · 12-02-2020, 06:53 PM

seen dominate teams get swept and even win every game in the playoffs although only once and i have had myself dominate teams winning world series and also knocked out swept in 2 seasons in division series ... win some lose some as it does happen in real life as well

TNCubsFan · 12-03-2020, 09:11 AM

As the others have said its a pretty normal happening. Back a few years ago, in 15 or 16, I had a run of six WS appearances in a row winning four in GM only mode. That franchise I took to the playoffs 20 of 23 years I "ran it". Of the 20 years, only six times I made the WS. Thats a little bit better than 25% rate of getting to the World Series. A 20% rate of winning the World Series. That is, in my mind, a phenomenal rate of success.

It was also a franchise where everything went right for about ten years. No major injuries to a core player. No Free Agent wiffs. Drafts pushing players through the system so that I traded away two rookie of the year winners while winning multiple rookie of the years. One of two downsides was an owner that was a real idiot/jerk. The other was that it was boring, to me, having built a team winning 120 -140 games a year with everything going right. There wasnt a challenge to running the franchise anymore.

So after a long answer, the playoffs are the best teams in a crap shoot. Sometimes you run the table and other times you dont make the point.

12-01-2020, 10:28 PM	#1
Tony-OH Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 50	Dominant team gets swept in playoffs every time Anyone else have this same problem. I have built a dominant team in the 80s and 90s that has won 110, 107, 99 and 114 games over the regular season the last four years Each and every time the team gets swept in the AL Championship Series or World Series where the team plays completely different. Hitting which dominates stops hitting. starters that won the Cy young Aware or were great all year suddenly get rocked. Relievers that were great all year can't get anyone out. I find it's ridiculous that a team plays completely different in the playoffs. It's deflating really. What is the use of playing a team over 162 games of domination to only watch the simulation play completely different in the playoffs four years straight? I would say this is just some weird coincidence, but I built a dominant team from the 1976 Orioles that eventually won over 100 games five years straight but I never won one World Series because the teams played completely different in the playoffs. Maybe I just have bad luck, but has anyone else experienced these disappointing playoffs performances?

12-01-2020, 11:12 PM	#5
RchW Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Toronto ON by way of Glasgow UK Posts: 15,629	Been the lament of many of us for many years. https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...t+win+playoffs __________________ Cheers RichW If you’re looking for a good cause to donate money to please consider a Donation to Parkinson’s Canada. It may help me have a better future and if not me, someone else. Thanks. “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” Frank Wilhoit

12-02-2020, 10:41 AM	#13
BaseballNewsNow Minors (Double A) Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: In front of my computer, playing OOTP Baseball Posts: 144 Blog Entries: 1	In my Tropical Baseball League, I have lost 3x in game 7 of the Mahi Mahi Cup (World Series). Nothing feels worse than that. However, OOTP always brings me back in. My current team has essentially no budget, and in each of the past 6 years I have lost to a team with at least 2x my budget. I’m still trying to get a championship. __________________ “Joy comes in the morning”

12-02-2020, 11:47 AM	#14
RchW Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Toronto ON by way of Glasgow UK Posts: 15,629	I'll admit that several of my playoff losses have been caused by me believing too much in my starting pitching and leaving them in too long. The rest are due to many of the other ways one can lose in OOTP and IRL. __________________ Cheers RichW If you’re looking for a good cause to donate money to please consider a Donation to Parkinson’s Canada. It may help me have a better future and if not me, someone else. Thanks. “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” Frank Wilhoit

12-02-2020, 01:25 PM	#15
ThePretender All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,321	There is likely a flaw in your team you are not recognizing that is being exploited against better teams. My 110-124 win teams generally do very well in the playoffs. Won't win every series but don't think I've ever been swept either. Last edited by ThePretender; 12-02-2020 at 01:26 PM.

12-01-2020, 10:32 PM	#2
Questdog Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: In a dark, damp cave where I'm training slugs to run the bases...... Posts: 16,142	No, my teams win it every time.....

12-01-2020, 11:00 PM	#4
The_Offspring187 Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Tennessee Posts: 477	I play fictional myself and have built a dominant Chicago Crows team that has won 100+ games 4 times this decade and only managed one World Series win. Two seasons ago I lost in 7 games to the Hollywood Stars. I've suffered a lot of OOTP heartbreak as well.

12-02-2020, 02:27 AM	#6
UltimateAverageGuy All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2017 Posts: 587	Teams get 100+ wins playing 80-90% of games against non playoff teams. The end

12-02-2020, 02:29 AM	#7
UltimateAverageGuy All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2017 Posts: 587	People with the thinking of how can my team lose a seven game series never ask themselves how their team lost 50-60 games in the regular season. Boo hoo.

12-02-2020, 04:51 AM	#8
rink23 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 19,558	That's why I play out every inning of every game. That way, if I lose, I not feel the AI turned on me for some reason.

12-02-2020, 09:48 AM	#10
Sweed Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Iowa Posts: 6,531	You may want to ask the Braves of the 90's how all of those division titles worked out for them.

12-02-2020, 10:22 AM	#11
BIG17EASY Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3,291	Yes, I have also experienced this problem. It's called baseball being baseball.

12-02-2020, 10:32 AM	#12
ohiodevil OOTP Roster Team Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Rocky River, Ohio Posts: 2,416	This article was written in 2018, but since 1969, the team with the best record has gone on to win the World Series 12 times..... https://www.si.com/mlb/2018/10/01/ba...series-red-sox

12-02-2020, 05:42 PM	#16
mytreds All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2019 Posts: 1,084 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	In my fictional league, I’ve not noticed that happening a majority of the time. In my experiences it’s an exception. My dominant Jacksonville Black Cats have recently won 3 out of the 4 previous championships. They weren’t swept once. We were the top team every year. I play out each game but I let my coach make all the decisions. I just press 1 to progress the game. __________________ “Baseball isn’t statistics; it’s Joe DiMaggio rounding second.” “Once, centuries ago, it was the beloved national pastime of the Americas, Wesley. Abandoned by a society that prized fast food and faster games. Lost to impatience.” “ The term ‘WAR’ should be replaced by ‘WAG’. WAR isn’t an actual measurement; it’s just a wild-ass guess” -Bill James RIP National League 1876-2022 Floreat semper vel invita morte. I make custom ballparks.

12-02-2020, 06:31 PM	#18
Ty Cobb Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Grayling, MI Posts: 4,546 Blog Entries: 120	1964 Phillies. Gene Mauch...'nuff said. 1978 Red Sox. "Bucky ******* Dent." 1951 Dodgers. "The Giants win the pennant! The Giants win the pennant!" 2001 Mariners. 116 and gone. It's baseball. 'it' happens. __________________ "You could not live with your own failure. Where did that bring you? Back to me." Thanos

12-02-2020, 06:53 PM	#19
r0nster Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 3,037	seen dominate teams get swept and even win every game in the playoffs although only once and i have had myself dominate teams winning world series and also knocked out swept in 2 seasons in division series ... win some lose some as it does happen in real life as well

12-03-2020, 09:11 AM	#20
TNCubsFan Major Leagues Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 300	As the others have said its a pretty normal happening. Back a few years ago, in 15 or 16, I had a run of six WS appearances in a row winning four in GM only mode. That franchise I took to the playoffs 20 of 23 years I "ran it". Of the 20 years, only six times I made the WS. Thats a little bit better than 25% rate of getting to the World Series. A 20% rate of winning the World Series. That is, in my mind, a phenomenal rate of success. It was also a franchise where everything went right for about ten years. No major injuries to a core player. No Free Agent wiffs. Drafts pushing players through the system so that I traded away two rookie of the year winners while winning multiple rookie of the years. One of two downsides was an owner that was a real idiot/jerk. The other was that it was boring, to me, having built a team winning 120 -140 games a year with everything going right. There wasnt a challenge to running the franchise anymore. So after a long answer, the playoffs are the best teams in a crap shoot. Sometimes you run the table and other times you dont make the point. __________________ "If a tie is like kissing your sister, losing is like kissing your grandmother with her teeth out" George Brett HOF