Quick Question

[Hwilensky]

How does a reliever, he is normally a starter, throw 10 pitches, and his status is at 16%. Meanwhile, another reliever, a true reliever throws 19 pitches, and his status is 79%. Is the penalty really that big for a starter/reliever?

Any and all help is appreciated.

[chazzycat]

yes, it's a penalty specific to starters. Otherwise putting SP in the bullpen is too strong of a strategy (basically it was OP last year so they nerfed it).

[Hwilensky]

Originally Posted by chazzycat

yes, it's a penalty specific to starters. Otherwise putting SP in the bullpen is too strong of a strategy (basically it was OP last year so they nerfed it).

If i changed his role from SP to RP, would that make a difference?

[chazzycat]

nope

[Matt Arnold]

Originally Posted by chazzycat

nope

Well, yes and no.

The fatigue that you see if based on what role they're set as. So if he's listed as a SP, his fatigue will show up assuming he's being used in the rotation, so any pitches yesterday will show him in the red for today.

However, the fatigue used in-game is based on what role they're actually used in. So if he's in the bullpen and the game is considering using him as a reliever, they effectively change his role to RP, check what that fatigue shows, and then use him accordingly. So it doesn't matter whether you set him to SP or RP, the game would use him the same either way. But the game may still pitch him despite his fatigue showing at 20% because as a reliever he's in better shape.

[Orcin]

So then a starter used as a reliever recovers stamina in the same manner as a normal reliever? In other words, the "penalty" only prevents the converted starter from having better recovery/stamina than a normal reliever?

[Matt Arnold]

Originally Posted by Orcin

So then a starter used as a reliever recovers stamina in the same manner as a normal reliever? In other words, the "penalty" only prevents the converted starter from having better recovery/stamina than a normal reliever?

There are some slight differences in the calculations between the two - starters will tend to have more pitches available at their max, but they get a larger penalty for pitching recently to compensate for that.

[Orcin]

Originally Posted by Matt Arnold

There are some slight differences in the calculations between the two - starters will tend to have more pitches available at their max, but they get a larger penalty for pitching recently to compensate for that.

It sounds like a normal reliever would better able to pitch back-to-back games in a one-inning closer role.

[Hwilensky]

Thank you for answering my question!!

[chazzycat]

Originally Posted by Orcin

It sounds like a normal reliever would better able to pitch back-to-back games in a one-inning closer role.

Yep. If you want your relievers available to pitch every day then use true RPs. SPs can still put up more innings over the course of the season by going 2-3 innings per appearance, but, they really need that rest day.