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Old 06-26-2020, 03:39 PM   #1
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Sisler 98 vs Sisler 97

Trying to upgrade to a Sisler having hard time deciding better card Sisler 98 or Sisler 97.What do yo think...Thanks
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Old 06-26-2020, 03:47 PM   #2
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The 97 looks better to me. What do you like better about the 98?
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Old 06-26-2020, 04:07 PM   #3
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Wait for the 99
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Old 06-26-2020, 04:22 PM   #4
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Sisler 98 is a great card for me. But, I do note the Sisler 97 was in some leader categories on the Perfect League, which also suggest he is also very good.
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Old 06-26-2020, 05:08 PM   #5
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In a couple leagues i have been in the 98 seems to get better stats. Not that i am a expert but the cards look pretty close to me
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Old 06-26-2020, 07:20 PM   #6
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I went with Sisler 97 when faced with that choice.
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Old 06-26-2020, 07:52 PM   #7
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If you are using him purely as a DH, I prefer the 98 version due to the better baserunning and slightly better gap rating. The 97 is a better defender though, but still not great at it.


Both are great cards though!
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Old 06-29-2020, 06:25 PM   #8
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I couldn’t get my 97 Sisler to play third, said invalid position. Any way to force this?

And I also opted for the 97.
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Old 06-29-2020, 07:42 PM   #9
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Why would you want to play Sisler at third base? He throws left-handed.

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I couldn’t get my 97 Sisler to play third, said invalid position. Any way to force this?

And I also opted for the 97.
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Old 06-29-2020, 09:34 PM   #10
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Why would you want to play Sisler at third base? He throws left-handed.
Great point, I totally forgot about the left-handedness... and I was confusing the 3b rating with the Roger Connor card, who is also a lefty thrower.
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Old 06-30-2020, 02:51 AM   #11
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Great point, I totally forgot about the left-handedness... and I was confusing the 3b rating with the Roger Connor card, who is also a lefty thrower.
hah. never noticed/thought about that before. i've seen multiple places that the game engine won't let you put a lefty thrower at 3b/ss/2b... but there must be code to allow it if the player is actually rated there.

so, just because i was curious, i opened up the batter spreadsheet just to see how many such cards there might be.

if it's correct/complete, roger connor is the only card in the game that throws lefty and has a 3b rating. 79 hal chase (also a natural 1b) is the only lefty thrower with 2b rating (2, lol).

there are no lefty throwers with SS rating.
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Old 06-30-2020, 10:02 AM   #12
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Great point, I totally forgot about the left-handedness... and I was confusing the 3b rating with the Roger Connor card, who is also a lefty thrower.
That is because Roger Connor actually played over 100 games at 3B. In the 1800s that was not as big a thing. It became more of an issue in the 1900s. As a result, in the 1800s, you occasionally find a lefty that played some third in his career. Same with catchers. In the 1800s it was not as big a thing, but still not common, and you had some lefty catchers. Tenney started his career as a catcher, and Jack Clements caught over 1000 games in the 1800s.
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Old 06-30-2020, 09:12 PM   #13
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The 97 looks better to me. What do you like better about the 98?
What Orcin said.... the 97 is the better card to me as well and cheaper.
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Old 06-30-2020, 09:43 PM   #14
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And here I am having just bought the 98 a few days ago...
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Old 06-30-2020, 09:46 PM   #15
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I think this topic was brought up on one of the Discord channels recently and the 98 card was soundly recommended over the 97
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Old 07-18-2020, 06:58 PM   #16
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I think this topic was brought up on one of the Discord channels recently and the 98 card was soundly recommended over the 97
I can't imagine why. The ratings are the same and the 97 is 25% cheaper.
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Old 07-18-2020, 10:59 PM   #17
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I like the 97 Sisler, and that has nothing to do, whatsoever, with that the historical diamond fairy accidentally let one slip into one of my packs today. He's having a 3 way with Todd Helton and Jeff Bagwell to see if they stabilize my team in the 2nd WC spot.
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Old 07-19-2020, 01:26 AM   #18
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I've pulled the 90 Sisler...the Sisler nobody has ever seen it appears lol
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Old 07-19-2020, 02:39 AM   #19
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98 Sisler for me



only had a partial season of the 97 on my other team



i believe the 100 baserunning of the 98 vs the 84 baserunning of the 97 makes a huge difference in extra base hits, and the 98 can be pencilled in as a 30/30 guy every year.
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Old 07-19-2020, 10:02 AM   #20
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i believe the 100 baserunning of the 98 vs the 84 baserunning of the 97 makes a huge difference in extra base hits, and the 98 can be pencilled in as a 30/30 guy every year.
That's a pretty small sample size on which to draw any conclusion. Your 98 Sisler has 1300 at bats in diamond with mixed results. The 97 barely got his uniform dirty, and we don't know the league/park context of either data set.

The 98 Sisler has 84 speed vs. 91 for the 97, so some of those additional baserunning XBH are taken away by slower speed. I doubt that it results in a "huge" difference in an equal league/park environment.
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