MLB rules changes and... options I hope?

[BBGiovanni]

I'm sure the gang is already scrambling to try to keep up with MLB's scrimmage plans... assuming they actually get to play games, I wonder if there will be on/off/option switches for the new rules?


Designated Hitter: Without wading into the religious debate about this, I assume (and hope very much) the check box to turn it off will remain. This may be the realm of pure fantasy, but there are other ways to do it, including: home team manager chooses (similar to AAA games), DH bats for starting pitcher only/first relief pitcher enters game in the DH spot in the order. I've enjoyed playing with the minimum number of batters for pitchers this year, and alternate DH rules would be really interesting to experiment with.


Extra Innings: The last batter out in the previous inning stands on second base in the next inning. This seems too complicated to add midseason but best of luck if you try! If you do add it, please have an off switch. Better yet, consider also allowing tie games a la ***. Having these two things with varying settings would help make fictional leagues really distinct, and I imagine those who use automatic league evolution would find them interesting when they come up randomly.


Thanks for reading!

[BusterKing]

Originally Posted by BBGiovanni

Extra Innings: The last batter out in the previous inning stands on second base in the next inning. This seems too complicated to add midseason but best of luck if you try! If you do add it, please have an off switch. Better yet, consider also allowing tie games a la ***. Having these two things with varying settings would help make fictional leagues really distinct, and I imagine those who use automatic league evolution would find them interesting when they come up randomly.

Destroying how the game of baseball was meant to be played.

[Lukas Berger]

Scrambling is right!

Of course the DH check box will remain

We're also working on adding in the runner on 2B rule (of course as an option as well), the plan is to have this included in one of the next patches, assuming all goes well.

[Cryomaniac]

Any chance we could get the HS rule allowing the DH for any player?

Although admittedly that would be a bit more complex AI wise.

[jokerhusky1129]

Originally Posted by Lukas Berger

Scrambling is right!

Of course the DH check box will remain

We're also working on adding in the runner on 2B rule (of course as an option as well), the plan is to have this included in one of the next patches, assuming all goes well.

Could it be an option to have it regular season only?

[Matt Arnold]

Originally Posted by jokerhusky1129

Could it be an option to have it regular season only?

We're still deciding what scope to have. I don't know if I've seen anything one way or the other on whether that rule will also be in effect in the playoffs or not. I know MiLB has had the rule in for a season or two - did they keep it for playoff games too?

[Cryomaniac]

Speaking of extra innings rules, any chance of allow us to allow ties one day? I seem to remember that the KBO used to have games be tied after 13 innings or something like that.

[BBGiovanni]

Originally Posted by Cryomaniac

Speaking of extra innings rules, any chance of allow us to allow ties one day? I seem to remember that the KBO used to have games be tied after 13 innings or something like that.

I'm not sure about KBO but *** does for sure. And MLB in spring training!


As the programming goes on I really hope different options can be included for these rules, even if that can only be done next year. As I said, it's been very fun and interesting to experiment with different minimum batter rules, and the way the free agency compensation rules are broken out is great for making different leagues, instead of the old choice between Type A/B and QO systems used to be.

[jeffw3000]

Originally Posted by Matt Arnold

We're still deciding what scope to have. I don't know if I've seen anything one way or the other on whether that rule will also be in effect in the playoffs or not. I know MiLB has had the rule in for a season or two - did they keep it for playoff games too?

MLB actually said they will only use that rule in the regular season. In the playoffs, they said extra innings would be the normal rule.

[jeffw3000]

Originally Posted by Cryomaniac

Any chance we could get the HS rule allowing the DH for any player?

Although admittedly that would be a bit more complex AI wise.

The DH rules I would love to see added is the rule that is used in AAA and AA. The current rule is the DH is not used when both teams that are playing are from NL affiliations.

[jeffw3000]

Originally Posted by BBGiovanni

I'm not sure about KBO but *** does for sure. And MLB in spring training!


As the programming goes on I really hope different options can be included for these rules, even if that can only be done next year. As I said, it's been very fun and interesting to experiment with different minimum batter rules, and the way the free agency compensation rules are broken out is great for making different leagues, instead of the old choice between Type A/B and QO systems used to be.

I would love to see this as well. I would love in spring training to have a max number of innings.

[BBGiovanni]

Originally Posted by Matt Arnold

We're still deciding what scope to have. I don't know if I've seen anything one way or the other on whether that rule will also be in effect in the playoffs or not. I know MiLB has had the rule in for a season or two - did they keep it for playoff games too?

Originally Posted by Mark Feinsand MLB.com

During extra-inning games in the regular season, each half-inning will begin with a runner on second base. The batter who made the final out in the previous inning (or a pinch-runner for that batter) would be that runner.

Originally Posted by MiLB.com

At all levels of Minor League Baseball, extra innings will begin with a runner on second base. If the last batter of the previous inning was the pitcher, the player to occupy second base to start the following inning will be the player in the batting order before the pitcher's spot in the lineup. By way of example, if the pitcher bats in the eighth position and the number nine hitter in the batting order is due to lead off the 10th inning, the number seven player in the batting order (or a pinch-runner for such player) shall begin the inning on second base. Any runner or batter removed from the game for a substitute shall be ineligible to return to the game, as is the case in all circumstances under the Official Baseball Rules.

The MiLB announcement doesn't limit the rule to the regular season, so I think the answer to your question is yes. But I haven't been to a postseason game in the minors in the last couple of years so I don't know.
Thank you guys for keeping up, I'm skeptical they'll be able to stage games under this plan in 28 different cities but it would be nice to model it anyway!
And if there's ever a check box to allow ties instead of this record book ruiner, I'd love it and I'm sure I'm not the only one...

Originally Posted by Official Rules of Major League Baseball

10.03(c): A box score is in balance (or proved) when the total of the team's times at bat, bases on balls received, hit batters, sacrifice bunts, sacrifice flies and batters awarded first base because of interference or obstruction equals the total of that team's runs, players left on base and the opposing team's putouts.

The baserunner gets a free run if he scores. So I bet Rickey Henderson hates this rule too!

Fangraphs posted an article on it today. 98.9% of MLB games end in 11 innings or fewer. There were only 16 games last year in all of MLB that went 15 or more innings, .3%. It's another solution in search of a problem, but the cartel doesn't care about that either so unfortunately....

[BBGiovanni]

Originally Posted by jeffw3000

I would love to see this as well. I would love in spring training to have a max number of innings.

The Arizona Fall League also, as I discovered while looking up the rules.


I know people think of ties in baseball as an abomination, but they keep the statistics cleaner and are not uncommon even in championship leagues.

[BBGiovanni]

Originally Posted by jeffw3000

The DH rules I would love to see added is the rule that is used in AAA and AA. The current rule is the DH is not used when both teams that are playing are from NL affiliations.

Yes, that would be great! In spring training the managers decide about the DH mutually (I think they have to agree to waive it, but it could be that they have to agree to use it). I've seen suggestions that would allow the home team to decide, not unlike the World Series/interleague rule now.

Either of those kinds of things add some strategy to managing which could be fun with a dialog box, "The opposing manager has requested to use the DH for today's game, do you agree?" Boy would I mash that button!

[CBeisbol]

Please for spring training

Nothing worse than a meaningless 15 inning spring training game

[CBeisbol]

Please for spring training

Nothing worse than a meaningless 15 inning spring training game

[CBeisbol]

Originally Posted by BusterKing

Destroying how the game of baseball was meant to be played.

I don't think the runner on second rule is responsible for destroying the rules about no gloves, 50 foot pitcher's box, batters not telling the pitchers where to throw the ball, an out if caught after a bounce, etc...

[BBGiovanni]

Originally Posted by CBeisbol

I don't think the runner on second rule is responsible for destroying the rules about no gloves, 50 foot pitcher's box, batters not telling the pitchers where to throw the ball, an out if caught after a bounce, etc...

No offense meant, but let's not argue about how much the cartel is or is not ruining baseball... let's hope for options in OOTP so we can build better games in our own worlds!


As to your (excellent) point about spring training marathons, I think in practice the managers can agree to a tie. I don't know if that's anything formal, but I know many times I've seen Bochy go over to the other dugout and say "hey, how about we pack it in" to Bob Melvin or Bud Black and they laugh for a couple of minutes and everyone goes home. I imagine they call it a suspended game for rules purposes, but I don't know if there's a rule or just good common sense. Yay innings cap!

[CBeisbol]

Originally Posted by BBGiovanni

No offense meant, but let's not argue about how much the cartel is or is not ruining baseball...

I'm ok with not arguing over it
Baseball hasn't been destroyed by any of the rule changes since its inception, it'll survive this one too

It's not these rule changes that are the threat

let's hope for options in OOTP so we can build better games in our own worlds!

Agreed

[Biggio509]

Originally Posted by jeffw3000

The DH rules I would love to see added is the rule that is used in AAA and AA. The current rule is the DH is not used when both teams that are playing are from NL affiliations.

If I remember correctly it is the NL's team's choice for a DH. A lot of NL affiliates choose to DH. I assume it is the home who gets the choice.

Looks like now starting in '22 there won't be a DH. '21 will be the last season with no DH in the NL. The new agreement has a DH.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...pt/5235749002/

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