Favourite Tournament Level

tykond · 06-20-2020, 11:14 PM

Wondering what everyones favourite tournament level to play is? I have put together a bronze team that does okay, not great, but okay. Feels a little random, some days I can get 10-12 packs, the next day, trouble to get out of the second round. Wondering what everyone else like to play.

RoteLaterne · 06-21-2020, 08:14 AM

I am doing bronze and iron

DethDeal · 06-21-2020, 04:05 PM

Bronze, and I agree on the hot and cold days with it.

ROY_Angel_Berroa · 06-21-2020, 04:11 PM

I’ve been playing Bronze mostly, but not been too successful. I get kinda annoyed that so many teams are just copy-catting each other with rosters, but I guess it works. Just seems less exciting than trying to figure out the best roster on your own.

ignats75 · 06-21-2020, 06:31 PM

i have one team that plays Silver one that plays Bronze and one that plays Iron. All have won.

2tango2 · 06-21-2020, 06:44 PM

Doesn't look like many play gold....I've been sitting on a boatload of golds that will never be in my lineup or rotation...better off to sell?

QuantaCondor · 06-21-2020, 10:27 PM

Cap tourneys are great. IMO it's the most interesting format, with a lot of viable builds existing out there as opposed to the rarity formats where there's an optimal roster and everyone not running it or something close to it is probably just worse off.

willat0660 · 06-21-2020, 11:46 PM

Iron is my go to, but there are not enough tournaments for three teams. So I hit Bronze, Silver, and even gold. I thought one of my bronze teams was a pretty good line up, but I don't think they've ever won anything. 99% of my wins are in iron.

Torgonius · 06-22-2020, 12:59 AM

I love bronze. There's enough variety that it's not the same 26 guys over and over (although there are 3 or 4 cards that are in very heavy use). I have had a blast pouring over data to see what works and what doesn't. I have managed to get an offense together that is super productive, but the pitchers are freaking voodoo.

It's like putting together a jigsaw puzzle with all the pieces facing down. But when it does manage to work, it's a great feeling. The same team that can't get out of round 1 for a dozen straight then goes out and cashes 5 in a row.

My wife says I would be more successful herding cats rather than trying to outwit the RNG. She's probably right, but why would I want all those cats herded together?

chazzycat · 06-22-2020, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 2tango2

Doesn't look like many play gold....I've been sitting on a boatload of golds that will never be in my lineup or rotation...better off to sell?

I have been doing gold and found it pretty lucrative. Join me in spamming the 750s! The more the merrier!

IanIachimoe · 06-22-2020, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by chazzycat

I have been doing gold and found it pretty lucrative. Join me in spamming the 750s! The more the merrier!

will do! I have a decent gold team because I refuse to sell off any rewards cards. I dig the Gold tourneys.

fignuts · 06-22-2020, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by chazzycat

I have been doing gold and found it pretty lucrative. Join me in spamming the 750s! The more the merrier!

Bout to retire my Iron tourney team. No wins the last ~10 days or so. Might as well put those SE rewards to good use!

ronhatch · 06-23-2020, 03:50 AM

So far I've only been doing iron... but that's simply because I figure that as a new player, I don't have a realistic chance of getting the cards I need for the higher levels if I can't compete in the lower levels. The rosters are relatively easy to figure out at the first-pass level, since there's a lot of consensus players at many positions... but I'm pretty sure I still need to fine-tune my strategy settings. I also want to set up some kind of system for aggregating stats across multiple tournaments and teams so that I can get a proper sample size looking at which players really perform in the context of the most common opponents.

Watching at least the highlights of games, I definitely notice things that need adjusting that I wouldn't spot from the line score or even in some cases the play-by-play. One series I was constantly throwing out guys on the bases... and in the first (and so far only) tournament championship I've won, take a look at the difference in the fatigue levels between my team (on the left) and my opponent (on the right). (I don't know how much fatigue matters, but it can't help.)
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Coriolanus · 06-23-2020, 08:13 PM

I really liked something Orcin said about not having the patience to see what works.

Everyone playing tourneys, by and large, has very good teams. There are a lot of wiggle points, but if you wiggle on the soft side more than a couple times, you won't win very often, though, you won't win very often even if you are spot-on with the best lineup, depending on level and day of the week.While the metas are strong because - in part - i think it's hard to fully trust your instincts and insights when wins are hard to come by even for the best teams - there are ways of play, but I'm not sure (for those not culling stats) how much patience one has to test out the balancing act of going for a power hitting team that hits enough not get limited to solo shots.

The game's a very interesting balancing act, but I think they erred in not making tourney stats available in some easier way to PT players so they could experiment more freely. I'd love to try a more extreme power lineup, but I don't have the patience for something that's an even longer random walk down RNG lane. Stats would help immensely so I don't spend a month fruitlessly pursuing that. The fear of this tends, I think, to keep people a little closer to the metas as well.

06-20-2020, 11:14 PM	#1
tykond Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 47	Favourite Tournament Level Wondering what everyones favourite tournament level to play is? I have put together a bronze team that does okay, not great, but okay. Feels a little random, some days I can get 10-12 packs, the next day, trouble to get out of the second round. Wondering what everyone else like to play.

06-21-2020, 04:05 PM	#3
DethDeal Bat Boy Join Date: May 2020 Location: Battle Creek, MI Posts: 12	Bronze, and I agree on the hot and cold days with it. __________________

06-21-2020, 06:31 PM	#5
ignats75 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Lakewood, OH Posts: 284	i have one team that plays Silver one that plays Bronze and one that plays Iron. All have won. __________________

06-21-2020, 06:44 PM	#6
2tango2 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: AZ Posts: 265	Doesn't look like many play gold....I've been sitting on a boatload of golds that will never be in my lineup or rotation...better off to sell? __________________ PT21 PT22

06-21-2020, 10:27 PM	#7
QuantaCondor All Star Reserve Join Date: Nov 2018 Posts: 563	Cap tourneys are great. IMO it's the most interesting format, with a lot of viable builds existing out there as opposed to the rarity formats where there's an optimal roster and everyone not running it or something close to it is probably just worse off. __________________ Former leader of BFF, the definitive competitive PT group for F2P players. DM for info F2P + restrictions. First F2P winner of PT21 Perfect League F2P + restrictions. New team -> PT title in 8 weeks

06-21-2020, 08:14 AM	#2
RoteLaterne Major Leagues Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 388	I am doing bronze and iron

06-21-2020, 04:11 PM	#4
ROY_Angel_Berroa Minors (Single A) Join Date: Mar 2020 Posts: 88	I’ve been playing Bronze mostly, but not been too successful. I get kinda annoyed that so many teams are just copy-catting each other with rosters, but I guess it works. Just seems less exciting than trying to figure out the best roster on your own.

06-21-2020, 11:46 PM	#8
willat0660 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Northern New Jersey Posts: 128	Iron is my go to, but there are not enough tournaments for three teams. So I hit Bronze, Silver, and even gold. I thought one of my bronze teams was a pretty good line up, but I don't think they've ever won anything. 99% of my wins are in iron. __________________

06-22-2020, 12:59 AM	#9
Torgonius All Star Reserve Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 862	I love bronze. There's enough variety that it's not the same 26 guys over and over (although there are 3 or 4 cards that are in very heavy use). I have had a blast pouring over data to see what works and what doesn't. I have managed to get an offense together that is super productive, but the pitchers are freaking voodoo. It's like putting together a jigsaw puzzle with all the pieces facing down. But when it does manage to work, it's a great feeling. The same team that can't get out of round 1 for a dozen straight then goes out and cashes 5 in a row. My wife says I would be more successful herding cats rather than trying to outwit the RNG. She's probably right, but why would I want all those cats herded together? __________________ When you let your 10 year old name the team

06-23-2020, 03:50 AM	#13
ronhatch Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: San Pedro, CA Posts: 84	So far I've only been doing iron... but that's simply because I figure that as a new player, I don't have a realistic chance of getting the cards I need for the higher levels if I can't compete in the lower levels. The rosters are relatively easy to figure out at the first-pass level, since there's a lot of consensus players at many positions... but I'm pretty sure I still need to fine-tune my strategy settings. I also want to set up some kind of system for aggregating stats across multiple tournaments and teams so that I can get a proper sample size looking at which players really perform in the context of the most common opponents. Watching at least the highlights of games, I definitely notice things that need adjusting that I wouldn't spot from the line score or even in some cases the play-by-play. One series I was constantly throwing out guys on the bases... and in the first (and so far only) tournament championship I've won, take a look at the difference in the fatigue levels between my team (on the left) and my opponent (on the right). (I don't know how much fatigue matters, but it can't help.) __________________ Primary team: Secondary team, with heavy restrictions on using the auction house: Tertiary team is AFK... I'm not allowing myself to make any changes to the team except during the offseason: Last edited by ronhatch; 06-23-2020 at 03:52 AM.

06-23-2020, 08:13 PM	#14
Coriolanus Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 74	I really liked something Orcin said about not having the patience to see what works. Everyone playing tourneys, by and large, has very good teams. There are a lot of wiggle points, but if you wiggle on the soft side more than a couple times, you won't win very often, though, you won't win very often even if you are spot-on with the best lineup, depending on level and day of the week.While the metas are strong because - in part - i think it's hard to fully trust your instincts and insights when wins are hard to come by even for the best teams - there are ways of play, but I'm not sure (for those not culling stats) how much patience one has to test out the balancing act of going for a power hitting team that hits enough not get limited to solo shots. The game's a very interesting balancing act, but I think they erred in not making tourney stats available in some easier way to PT players so they could experiment more freely. I'd love to try a more extreme power lineup, but I don't have the patience for something that's an even longer random walk down RNG lane. Stats would help immensely so I don't spend a month fruitlessly pursuing that. The fear of this tends, I think, to keep people a little closer to the metas as well.