Tournaments

calewallace6 · 04-12-2020, 07:46 PM

I have played at least 50 tournaments and have only managed to win 1. I have tried all silver, all bronze, cap tournaments, everything. And the only on I won was a DOD. Often times I get eliminated by teams with worse players, worse starting pitchers, you name it. Anyone have advice? I enjoy playing the game but I feel like I am clearly missing out on something

TheNamelessPoet · 04-12-2020, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by calewallace6

I have played at least 50 tournaments and have only managed to win 1. I have tried all silver, all bronze, cap tournaments, everything. And the only on I won was a DOD. Often times I get eliminated by teams with worse players, worse starting pitchers, you name it. Anyone have advice? I enjoy playing the game but I feel like I am clearly missing out on something

worse how? I have an iron on my bronze and only 1/2 my bronze are 67 or higher. it's all about fi doing the right combination of players

USF · 04-12-2020, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by calewallace6

I have played at least 50 tournaments and have only managed to win 1. I have tried all silver, all bronze, cap tournaments, everything. And the only on I won was a DOD. Often times I get eliminated by teams with worse players, worse starting pitchers, you name it. Anyone have advice? I enjoy playing the game but I feel like I am clearly missing out on something

I started off in IRON and now i'm doing more BRONZE tournaments. I play the quick tournaments mostly. I've won a few times. RPs seem to fatigue easy so if you are around and can micromanage things, try doing that for your pen. If a guy is tired move him to a less significant role in the pen and/or reduce his PC and make sure they don't come in key situations. When they rest up switch them back. Also defense subs can help too late in the game.

MrPibb · 04-13-2020, 03:03 AM

I've mostly been doing Iron and Bronze with a little bit of gold and silver limited tossed in. I have some of the best players in those brackets like Newcomb, Cedeno, Davalillo and I've probably won 50 packs since the beginning... and then I noticed something odd.

This week I finally got my team the way I wanted it and my lineup was perfect in my eyes. I got bounced in the first round all day Thursday, Friday and Saturday, mostly sweeps. Nothing looked at all wrong but I decided to let the AI set my rosters. I won the next two tourneys and had a bunch of 3rd and 4ths to go along with it today.

I have no idea what any of that means other than the computer seems to know what it wants and any changes I made wrecked me for about thirty tournaments. I have no idea why it worked that way.

Warhawk · 04-13-2020, 10:13 AM

Be sure to track at least your own players' performance, and try to look at their numbers in the aggregate rather than looking at individual tournament numbers since it's generally such a small number of games that the variance is very high. It's not uncommon that a player you feel intuitively should be good is actually a dud. Sure, some things are obvious - elite defenders are elite defenders, full stop - but especially when it comes to starting pitching the data I've collected often makes me go "huh?"

CurlyKarkovice · 04-13-2020, 12:20 PM

Focus on one style of team at one level and go from there. Trying out different squads on three different levels at the same time isn't easy. Plus Silver cards are obnoxiously priced right now. I win the most in Bronze. I don't do Iron, no interest in those goofballs. Bronze there aren't super scarce tournament stud cards like Silver and Gold. Test the team in 3 or 5 game series tourneys.

I mentioned this in another post. I felt like some starting pitcher combinations were dominating me so I decided to examine finished tournaments and "copy" them. I rip a lot of packs and one was actually inactive on my bench. AH another two. As long as they weren't flyball pitchers I wanted them. There's a certain amount of Meta to the these tournaments mind as well get the same edge and pick up a piece of the pie.

chazzycat · 04-13-2020, 12:33 PM

A lot of tournament teams are just good...it takes a substantial investment into the best cards to really be competitive. At current prices it takes tens of thousands of PP for a silver team, over 100k for gold. Bronze & iron are cheaper, but they are also flooded with a million teams, and with less differentiation between the cards it's more of a crapshoot.

calewallace6 · 04-13-2020, 12:41 PM

Just was up 3-0 in a best of 7 series on a team in a silver and under tournament. IIt was the second round. Won the first round 4-1. And was up 3-0 in round 2. I mean truly remarkable. Went on to lose the next four games. Trying to figure out how something that has happened 1 time in the history of baseball just happened to me.

Warhawk · 04-13-2020, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by calewallace6

Just was up 3-0 in a best of 7 series on a team in a silver and under tournament. IIt was the second round. Won the first round 4-1. And was up 3-0 in round 2. I mean truly remarkable. Went on to lose the next four games. Trying to figure out how something that has happened 1 time in the history of baseball just happened to me.

It's happened to me plenty. At least you didn't lose a series with a +36 run differential. I did that yesterday.

Warhawk · 04-13-2020, 01:11 PM

Oh, and sometimes it's just not your day. Like I just got beat in the round robin of a gold historical tournament, using my pretty tricked out by this point gold roster, by two teams with mostly irons and bronzes. I won the last 2 of those tournaments I entered, and made the semis in the one before that. **** happens.

Tinkerman · 04-15-2020, 02:01 PM

I've got a bronze team that's been bossing it in best of fives and utterly useless in best of sevens. Only thing I can put it down to is 'only' having a seven man bullpen. Is it really a hard requirement to have an eight man 'pen in best of seven tourneys, or is anyone having much success with a seven man?

X3NEIZE · 04-15-2020, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by calewallace6

I have played at least 50 tournaments and have only managed to win 1. I have tried all silver, all bronze, cap tournaments, everything. And the only on I won was a DOD. Often times I get eliminated by teams with worse players, worse starting pitchers, you name it. Anyone have advice? I enjoy playing the game but I feel like I am clearly missing out on something

The Seattle Mariners are not having better luck...

bailey · 04-15-2020, 02:07 PM

I don't think it's the number, but the quality. However, I won't go less than 8 because most of my starters don't have great stamina to begin with.

thejojo · 04-15-2020, 02:27 PM

I have this theory that historical cards are better than LIVE cards, you might wan't to go get some cheaper historical cards.
Or get a bunch high rated cards of that tier like a bunch of 69s.
In the past week I've been second about three times and first once in silver Bo3 16 teams and most my team is from the NL central.

dkgo · 04-15-2020, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by thejojo

I have this theory that historical cards are better than LIVE cards, you might wan't to go get some cheaper historical cards.
Or get a bunch high rated cards of that tier like a bunch of 69s.
In the past week I've been second about three times and first once in silver Bo3 16 teams and most my team is from the NL central.

That isn't really a theory, it's a fact that live cards have their overalls inflated. Look at the ratings not the overall. The overall means nothing except for what color the card is.

Most teams in the low tier tourneys are pretty similar so it really is a crapshoot. You can play the exact same opponent and sweep them 4-0 then get swept 0-4 the next time. The odds of winning a 32-man tournament are pretty low when everyone has a similar shot.

abangs · 04-15-2020, 04:28 PM

I have one win in over 160 16-team bronze tournaments. A crapshoot would be an improvement at this point.

ubernoob · 04-15-2020, 07:39 PM

It's all just RNG, especially at the Iron and Bronze level.

Sure there are things you can do to help yourself, but it's still gonna be RNG. Just like real baseball playoffs. Ask the Dodgers.

I've had streaks of 4 days where I don't even place top 4 in a tournament (and I play quite a few) and then win a couple in a row.

Yesterday I was probably 0-10 in tournaments losing in the first round or two more often than not. Same team won me 5 packs at the end of the night in 2 consecutive tournaments.

neugey · 04-15-2020, 08:12 PM

This isn't the case in all tournaments, but sometimes I think it can be a war of attrition. If you have a series that goes 7 games plus has a few extra-inning games ... it isn't long before that kind of workload catches us to the team.

Stanley Kuppchaser · 04-15-2020, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ubernoob

It's all just RNG, especially at the Iron and Bronze level.

Sure there are things you can do to help yourself, but it's still gonna be RNG. Just like real baseball playoffs. Ask the Dodgers.

I've had streaks of 4 days where I don't even place top 4 in a tournament (and I play quite a few) and then win a couple in a row.

Yesterday I was probably 0-10 in tournaments losing in the first round or two more often than not. Same team won me 5 packs at the end of the night in 2 consecutive tournaments.

It is indeed. My iron team went two days with a couple of 200 PP prizes. Then won 10 packs in a day. Then won 4 (in a single tournament) over the next two days. Hey, the teams are just so close in talent, RNG holds sway. I'd say, if you're team is hanging and you like them, just run with it.

willat0660 · 04-15-2020, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by calewallace6

Just was up 3-0 in a best of 7 series on a team in a silver and under tournament. IIt was the second round. Won the first round 4-1. And was up 3-0 in round 2. I mean truly remarkable. Went on to lose the next four games. Trying to figure out how something that has happened 1 time in the history of baseball just happened to me.

Same here. I had a 3-0 lead in the finals of a Silver tournament. Lost 4 in a row.

04-12-2020, 07:46 PM	#1
calewallace6 Bat Boy Join Date: Nov 2018 Posts: 12	Tournaments I have played at least 50 tournaments and have only managed to win 1. I have tried all silver, all bronze, cap tournaments, everything. And the only on I won was a DOD. Often times I get eliminated by teams with worse players, worse starting pitchers, you name it. Anyone have advice? I enjoy playing the game but I feel like I am clearly missing out on something

04-13-2020, 12:20 PM	#6
CurlyKarkovice Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Indianapolis IN Posts: 231	Focus on one style of team at one level and go from there. Trying out different squads on three different levels at the same time isn't easy. Plus Silver cards are obnoxiously priced right now. I win the most in Bronze. I don't do Iron, no interest in those goofballs. Bronze there aren't super scarce tournament stud cards like Silver and Gold. Test the team in 3 or 5 game series tourneys. I mentioned this in another post. I felt like some starting pitcher combinations were dominating me so I decided to examine finished tournaments and "copy" them. I rip a lot of packs and one was actually inactive on my bench. AH another two. As long as they weren't flyball pitchers I wanted them. There's a certain amount of Meta to the these tournaments mind as well get the same edge and pick up a piece of the pie. __________________

04-15-2020, 02:01 PM	#11
Tinkerman All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2019 Posts: 1,942	I've got a bronze team that's been bossing it in best of fives and utterly useless in best of sevens. Only thing I can put it down to is 'only' having a seven man bullpen. Is it really a hard requirement to have an eight man 'pen in best of seven tourneys, or is anyone having much success with a seven man? __________________

04-15-2020, 07:39 PM	#17
ubernoob Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 300	It's all just RNG, especially at the Iron and Bronze level. Sure there are things you can do to help yourself, but it's still gonna be RNG. Just like real baseball playoffs. Ask the Dodgers. I've had streaks of 4 days where I don't even place top 4 in a tournament (and I play quite a few) and then win a couple in a row. Yesterday I was probably 0-10 in tournaments losing in the first round or two more often than not. Same team won me 5 packs at the end of the night in 2 consecutive tournaments. __________________

04-15-2020, 08:12 PM	#18
neugey All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 807	This isn't the case in all tournaments, but sometimes I think it can be a war of attrition. If you have a series that goes 7 games plus has a few extra-inning games ... it isn't long before that kind of workload catches us to the team. __________________ Online OOTP League Play: PBA - Cincinnati Reds MLM - Baltimore Orioles

04-13-2020, 03:03 AM	#4
MrPibb Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Mar 2020 Posts: 28	I've mostly been doing Iron and Bronze with a little bit of gold and silver limited tossed in. I have some of the best players in those brackets like Newcomb, Cedeno, Davalillo and I've probably won 50 packs since the beginning... and then I noticed something odd. This week I finally got my team the way I wanted it and my lineup was perfect in my eyes. I got bounced in the first round all day Thursday, Friday and Saturday, mostly sweeps. Nothing looked at all wrong but I decided to let the AI set my rosters. I won the next two tourneys and had a bunch of 3rd and 4ths to go along with it today. I have no idea what any of that means other than the computer seems to know what it wants and any changes I made wrecked me for about thirty tournaments. I have no idea why it worked that way.

04-13-2020, 10:13 AM	#5
Warhawk Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2017 Posts: 437	Be sure to track at least your own players' performance, and try to look at their numbers in the aggregate rather than looking at individual tournament numbers since it's generally such a small number of games that the variance is very high. It's not uncommon that a player you feel intuitively should be good is actually a dud. Sure, some things are obvious - elite defenders are elite defenders, full stop - but especially when it comes to starting pitching the data I've collected often makes me go "huh?"

04-13-2020, 12:33 PM	#7
chazzycat All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 1,685	A lot of tournament teams are just good...it takes a substantial investment into the best cards to really be competitive. At current prices it takes tens of thousands of PP for a silver team, over 100k for gold. Bronze & iron are cheaper, but they are also flooded with a million teams, and with less differentiation between the cards it's more of a crapshoot.

04-13-2020, 12:41 PM	#8
calewallace6 Bat Boy Join Date: Nov 2018 Posts: 12	Just was up 3-0 in a best of 7 series on a team in a silver and under tournament. IIt was the second round. Won the first round 4-1. And was up 3-0 in round 2. I mean truly remarkable. Went on to lose the next four games. Trying to figure out how something that has happened 1 time in the history of baseball just happened to me.

04-13-2020, 01:11 PM	#10
Warhawk Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2017 Posts: 437	Oh, and sometimes it's just not your day. Like I just got beat in the round robin of a gold historical tournament, using my pretty tricked out by this point gold roster, by two teams with mostly irons and bronzes. I won the last 2 of those tournaments I entered, and made the semis in the one before that. **** happens.

04-15-2020, 02:07 PM	#13
bailey Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 3,424	I don't think it's the number, but the quality. However, I won't go less than 8 because most of my starters don't have great stamina to begin with.

04-15-2020, 02:27 PM	#14
thejojo Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2020 Posts: 393	I have this theory that historical cards are better than LIVE cards, you might wan't to go get some cheaper historical cards. Or get a bunch high rated cards of that tier like a bunch of 69s. In the past week I've been second about three times and first once in silver Bo3 16 teams and most my team is from the NL central.

04-15-2020, 04:28 PM	#16
abangs Minors (Single A) Join Date: Apr 2020 Posts: 60	I have one win in over 160 16-team bronze tournaments. A crapshoot would be an improvement at this point.