Steve Lyons vs Al Leiter: Wrestling Match

Rizon · 10-11-2003, 02:06 AM

It's going to happen eventually. Leiter's going to get so fed up with Lyons' inane dribbling, pot shots and wanna be baseball knowledge that he's going to pile drive him. And I hope he does, SOMEONE needs to shut that idiot UP.

ThisGuy666 · 10-11-2003, 04:11 AM

Word, and get him to take out McCarver and Morgan while he's at it.

Markus Heinsohn · 10-11-2003, 05:21 AM

Especially Morgan... great player, poor commentary.

draven085 · 10-11-2003, 12:24 PM

I was suprised at Leiter's annoncing ability. I actually like him. He's smart, doesn't talk too much, and doesn't have Tony Gwynn's voice.

JWay · 10-11-2003, 12:41 PM

leiter said "bitching.."

Akrobat · 10-11-2003, 01:28 PM

I actually like Mccarver... his voice is interesting, and he always has something to say.

Jason Moyer · 10-11-2003, 02:06 PM

I'm surprised at how good Leiter is doing too. He's never been a particularly great player, but I really like him as an announcer. He doesn't babble incoherently like mccarver or break out the baseball ego like morgan. When he does speak he has something tangible to add to the play by play. I definitely hope he plans on doing this as a full time job somewhere.

Jason

AnotherAlias · 10-11-2003, 05:56 PM

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Originally posted by Jason Moyer
I'm surprised at how good Leiter is doing too. He's never been a particularly great player, but I really like him as an announcer. He doesn't babble incoherently like mccarver or break out the baseball ego like morgan. When he does speak he has something tangible to add to the play by play. I definitely hope he plans on doing this as a full time job somewhere.

Jason

I agree. Leiter is refreshing. He's probably a bit more 'in tune' with today's players. More so than Joe "Mumbles" Morgan, Tim "Meely-Mouth' McCarver, and Steve "Lame Lungs" Lyons.

Leiter, may be older, but at least he's still in the game.

I like him, so far.

TheRockCT · 10-12-2003, 12:19 AM

I like Leiter, and I think Boone's not so bad either. There were times I wanted the current player announcers to tell Lyons & McCarver to shut their pieholes.

Tarin · 10-12-2003, 01:44 AM

Lieter aint that bad a player. He was a stud for the Mets in their world series run.

kingfc22 · 10-12-2003, 03:24 AM

McCarver needs glasses. The guy is a complete moron.

woody5254 · 10-12-2003, 11:16 AM

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Originally posted by kingfc22
McCarver needs glasses. The guy is a complete moron.

So glasses cure being dumb too?

Jason Moyer · 10-13-2003, 12:30 AM

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Originally posted by TheRockCT
I like Leiter, and I think Boone's not so bad either. There were times I wanted the current player announcers to tell Lyons & McCarver to shut their pieholes.

They should bring Boone's dad in and have him take on McCarver in a play-by-play duel to the death. Facemasks and shin guards optional.

Jason

Jason Moyer · 10-13-2003, 12:31 AM

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Originally posted by Tarin
Lieter aint that bad a player. He was a stud for the Mets in their world series run.

Al Leiter is good?

Next thing you know people will say Jamie Moyer is good.

(yeah I have a problem remembering these guys became decent pitchers after being horrible for 10 years)

Jason

asamford · 10-13-2003, 06:04 AM

Al Leiter is like a mellowed out Quentin Tarantino in the booth.

every once and a while he talks a little too much, but at least he's sayin somethin interestin.

sixto · 10-13-2003, 10:27 AM

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Originally posted by Jason Moyer
Al Leiter is good?

Next thing you know people will say Jamie Moyer is good.

(yeah I have a problem remembering these guys became decent pitchers after being horrible for 10 years)

Jason

Um. Career ERA+ of 116 or better, K/B ratio lifetime 1.82 despite being a wild pitcher, K/9 ratio lifetime of 7.63, does not give up too many HR, and a 145-112 lifetime W-L (.564) for the traditionalist in you. And yes, he did take 7-8 years to figure it out, which makes his success improbable, not invalid.

As for Moyer, the 200 wins he's going to rack up for his career against 140 some losses, plus incredible success in the past 3 years despite poor K/9 and while giving up a few dingers, 126-52 since 1996 is - well let's just say that while I don't have the support-neutral stats in front of me, his .692 winning pct (vs team .559) is awfully high to be all luck. Safeco has helped him, yes. Doesn't help Freddy Garcia.

You'd have a better argument saying they're not great pitchers, than saying they're not good.

10-11-2003, 02:06 AM	#1
Rizon Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: SF Area, California Total Posts: 531,691 Posts: 2,369	Steve Lyons vs Al Leiter: Wrestling Match It's going to happen eventually. Leiter's going to get so fed up with Lyons' inane dribbling, pot shots and wanna be baseball knowledge that he's going to pile drive him. And I hope he does, SOMEONE needs to shut that idiot UP. __________________ JML MILKSHAKES

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ThisGuy666 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Waterloo, ON Posts: 71	Word, and get him to take out McCarver and Morgan while he's at it. __________________ - TG

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Jason Moyer Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 5,076	I'm surprised at how good Leiter is doing too. He's never been a particularly great player, but I really like him as an announcer. He doesn't babble incoherently like mccarver or break out the baseball ego like morgan. When he does speak he has something tangible to add to the play by play. I definitely hope he plans on doing this as a full time job somewhere. Jason __________________ "I pretty much popped everything cold turkey. We were doing steroids they wouldn't give to horses." -- Tom House "I was very fortunate to have a pitching coach by the name of Tom House...Tom, I really miss those days that we spent in the weight room and out on the field working together." -- Nolan Ryan's HoF Induction Speech

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TheRockCT All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: TN Posts: 1,083	I like Leiter, and I think Boone's not so bad either. There were times I wanted the current player announcers to tell Lyons & McCarver to shut their pieholes. __________________ GM, Vermont Emperor Penguins - POTD POTD Champions: 2011, 2012, 2013 GM, Monterrey Aztecs* - NABA *NABA Champions: 2013

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Markus Heinsohn Developer OOTP Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 24,805	Especially Morgan... great player, poor commentary.

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draven085 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2,074	I was suprised at Leiter's annoncing ability. I actually like him. He's smart, doesn't talk too much, and doesn't have Tony Gwynn's voice.

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JWay Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Sioux Falls, SD Posts: 5,021	leiter said "bitching.."

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Tarin Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: J-Ville Posts: 325	Lieter aint that bad a player. He was a stud for the Mets in their world series run. __________________ T

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asamford Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Snellville, Georgia Posts: 1,769	Al Leiter is like a mellowed out Quentin Tarantino in the booth. every once and a while he talks a little too much, but at least he's sayin somethin interestin.