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09-05-2019, 09:11 PM | #41 |
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Have you considered having a roster floor in some instances instead of a ceiling? A roster comprised of entirely perfects would be 2500 OVR points, so maybe setting a minimum of 2250 (or something else) could result in a rather exclusive tournament and attract whales to it. And this type of tournament could even be called "whale something something" for flavor.
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09-06-2019, 06:26 PM | #42 |
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Oof. I'm excited!
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09-06-2019, 06:50 PM | #43 |
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Can't wait for tourneys. It is going to give all of us low level players that have never in PT history pulled a historical diamond or even a top end live diamond a chance to compete on a level playing field.
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09-06-2019, 07:19 PM | #44 |
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Stuff looks great Markus! This will be a heck of a lot of fun I predict.
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09-08-2019, 01:45 PM | #46 |
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So at any rate, people are posting good requests about tourneys, but I actually prefer that they go ahead with whatever they have as soon as they can. All the improvements can come later ;-)
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12 40-rated players Pitchers: 100 Big Walt 100 Cy Young 100 Ed Walsh 100 SE Maddux 100 Pedro 100 Schilling Batters: 1B 100 Babe Ruth 2B 100 Honus Wagner SS 66 Luis Aparicio 3B 100 Boggs LF 100 Barry CF 100 Mays RF 100 Cobb DH: 40-rated player That's 12 40s, 12 100s, and one 66 for a total of 1746, just under the cap. If there is nothing in place to prevent these teams from being constructed, this *will* happen and it will be the best team in that format. It won't matter how good your bench is, or how good your strategy is, or if you've optimized your lineups and rotation or not. You'll just lose and that'll be the end of it. I am personally in favor of the quota strategy on roster limits: You can only have 1 Perfect, 3 Diamond, 5 Gold, 7 Silver, 9 Bronze or lower. Or, just ban the use of irons in roster-cap tournaments. EDIT: The quota strategy is still possibly insufficient, since those perfects just turn into Big Walt, Eppa Rixey, Hoyt, Marquard, Ichiro, Sisler, Pudge, Maddux, Carew, and a couple silvers to fill out the roster, which might cause the meta to get stale etc. This is going to be a problem no matter what, the devs just have to decide on the best strategy for it. Probably the most interesting tournaments are ones which restrict the usage of diamonds and perfects entirely, but that's just my opinion.
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09-09-2019, 07:30 PM | #49 |
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Metas will always emerge. My hope is that tournament requirements and available cards get fine tuned to maximize choices available with the metas, and I don't necessarily expect this to be completed in the first pass.
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For a longer term approach on tournament balance, I think taking the approach of player-specific salary values is the best and most flexible way to balance the format. The devs can be data driven about this; just start with salary=OVR, look at play rates for each card, then assign a new Salary stat to each player.
It's nontrivial to implement, but this is a feature we see in other Ultimate Team games in salary cap modes, and it really has to be done if we want truly competitive salaried tournaments.
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09-11-2019, 09:42 AM | #52 |
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Yes, this will be an ongoing process. For example, the 70 per card on average stated as an example for the restricted tournaments is probably way too high.
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This also might open up some interesting strategies around bullpen management, multi-positional players, etc.
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09-11-2019, 04:53 PM | #54 |
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So excited for this! There are details that people will inevitably complain about (schedules, training, Cy Young, etc.), but I think the majority of us just want to see it as soon as possible in any form rather than continue to wait.
That said, I echo those who are asking for the salary cap tournies to be the flagship tournies with the best rewards. I know you want to give whales a reason to spend and giving the best rewards to the open tournies seems the obvious best way to do that. I don't think it's that obvious though. The mega whales that can afford the best open tourny team (which costs thousands of dollars) will spend regardless, but tournies are an opportunity to push people to spend more than they would otherwise. You can push them to spend for the best and most sustainable reason - they're having fun! I don't think anyone thinks the open tournies sound like the most fun. The appeal of the tournies are the new formats that are different from leagues and require strategies that aren't just fork-out-for-the-best-player-at-each-position. Maybe I'm wrong. I, as someone who has spent hundreds (not thousands) and could spend more, wont be spending more to try to compete in open tournies. If I would, I'd already have done so to compete against the mega-whales in perfect. |
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I'm getting real tired of getting my ass kicked by wallet warriors too.
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Yes, some teams just dominate Perfect Leagues with stacccccked rosters. Leagues would really benefit from a level above Perfect. Could that be possible? It might really separate the whales from a SUPER competitive Perfect league. OOTP is great and tournaments sound excellent! Thank you! Last edited by wikex004; 09-13-2019 at 06:46 PM. |
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09-16-2019, 04:04 AM | #57 |
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Yup, this is something we debate for next year's version.
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What would be cool for everyone is a Champions League, where Perfect League winners compete for the ultimate bragging rights. Only the winner gets to stay, and the rest are relegated back down to Perfect. And the new Perfect Series winners move up. This would make Perfect a bit more competitive for the average Joe, and give the whales a huge prize to shoot for every week. |
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I like to segregate teams by the number of perfect titles. If you won 2 or more perfect titles you should be in a league of perfect teams with 2 or more perfect titles.
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