Vlad Jr.'s live card

Big Train · 06-06-2019, 10:57 AM

Just a question of why his live card has such high ratings and a 100 value? I thought live cards were supposed to be based on actual ML stats? Is his card gonna be majorly adjusted downward at some point?

Hawks 27 · 06-06-2019, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Train

Just a question of why his live card has such high ratings and a 100 value? I thought live cards were supposed to be based on actual ML stats? Is his card gonna be majorly adjusted downward at some point?

Great question.... I feel like the hype was so great on him that the card got caught up in it. I'm not opposed to it even being a diamond, but perfect is too much.

bphilb · 06-06-2019, 11:20 AM

I agree. It didn't really make any sense to start him at Perfect with no major league track record. I can usually find a justification for ratings on most cards, but this card made little sense. It was made worse when he didn't go down after a slow start, it makes it feel like he was a 110 or something overall when he started. His future legend card was already perfect, so I'm not sure why there was a need for this. Either way though it should even out in the end and hopefully he performs to a level that justifies a perfect rating, he's an exciting talent.

dkgo · 06-06-2019, 11:40 AM

I hope it drops down soon, it is a beastly card that I want to use but would be much more comfortable getting it at 15K with upside to go back up than 28K and only downside

dbqs · 06-06-2019, 11:52 AM

The rating is based on projections. Have you SEEN his swing??!

Hawks 27 · 06-06-2019, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by dbqs

The rating is based on projections. Have you SEEN his swing??!

I have seen his swing... Not sure what you're getting at here... Is the implication that his swing won't equate to projections? If so, in which way?

<Pion> · 06-06-2019, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Hawks 27

I have seen his swing... Not sure what you're getting at here... Is the implication that his swing won't equate to projections? If so, in which way?

Live cards are based on ZIPS ratings at the beginning of the year. The more real stats they have, the larger of the percentage the real stats will take effect in relation to the ZIPS projections. So the more at bats Guerrero gets, the more the ratings will come down (if he doesn't go nuts at the plate and rip the cover off the ball). That being said, given the ZIPS projections I saw for him, the ratings he got do look high so the hype and excitement may have entered in.

dkgo · 06-06-2019, 01:37 PM

He started very slow (though a lot of that was abysmal babip) but has OPSed 950 over the past four weeks. If he stays at that rate I don't see the card dropping too much but I've been caught off guard at some movements before. for all we know it could show up at 96 monday.

webdox · 06-06-2019, 10:21 PM

I hope he stays 100

Matt Arnold · 06-06-2019, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by webdox

I hope he stays 100

1.255 OPS in the last 7 days - if he keeps that up he very well might stay as a 100

matingly23 · 06-08-2019, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by dbqs

The rating is based on projections. Have you SEEN his swing??!

Clint Frazier has a very pretty swing too, Legendary Bat Speed.

06-06-2019, 10:57 AM	#1
Big Train Major Leagues Join Date: May 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 402	Vlad Jr.'s live card Just a question of why his live card has such high ratings and a 100 value? I thought live cards were supposed to be based on actual ML stats? Is his card gonna be majorly adjusted downward at some point?

06-06-2019, 11:20 AM	#3
bphilb Minors (Single A) Join Date: Mar 2019 Posts: 53	I agree. It didn't really make any sense to start him at Perfect with no major league track record. I can usually find a justification for ratings on most cards, but this card made little sense. It was made worse when he didn't go down after a slow start, it makes it feel like he was a 110 or something overall when he started. His future legend card was already perfect, so I'm not sure why there was a need for this. Either way though it should even out in the end and hopefully he performs to a level that justifies a perfect rating, he's an exciting talent. __________________

06-06-2019, 11:52 AM	#5
dbqs Major Leagues Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Comiskey Posts: 316	The rating is based on projections. Have you SEEN his swing??! __________________

06-06-2019, 11:40 AM	#4
dkgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 2,152	I hope it drops down soon, it is a beastly card that I want to use but would be much more comfortable getting it at 15K with upside to go back up than 28K and only downside

06-06-2019, 01:37 PM	#8
dkgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 2,152	He started very slow (though a lot of that was abysmal babip) but has OPSed 950 over the past four weeks. If he stays at that rate I don't see the card dropping too much but I've been caught off guard at some movements before. for all we know it could show up at 96 monday.

06-06-2019, 10:21 PM	#9
webdox Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 295	I hope he stays 100