Certified pre-owned players - Page 3

Icy · 05-21-2019, 12:22 PM

I don't mind second hand cards, in fact I prefer them if they are trained for more positions. But it would be great to see it before buying, so we could bid more or less depending on how trained they are.

Findest2001 · 05-21-2019, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Icy

I don't mind second hand cards, in fact I prefer them if they are trained for more positions. But it would be great to see it before buying, so we could bid more or less depending on how trained they are.

I hate how it is currently especially when trying to sell a player fully trained. I see 5 other Andrelton Simmons on AH for card minimum starting bid, and a slightly higher BIN. I want to list mine higher, but the average person doesn't apply the thinking that "hmmm, it must be listed more because it's fully trained".

I wish there was a "note" option on auctions where you could say things like "trained to 100 on 3b and ss, that's why list price is higher." or something similar. OR just show the training.

People would definitely pay a premium for a fully trained card so they don't have to spend 3 seasons doing so. That has real value that the person training the card gets no credit for, at least not in the form of PP.

Argonaut · 05-21-2019, 12:40 PM

I'm an OCD guy so I don't like cards with history on them. Even if they have training -- I'd rather do my own training than have someone else's dirty history. I've removed some of my cards' history accidentally, don't know how it happened. Some combination of storing them in the deactivated pile or putting them up for auction. I've tried re-creating that accident with no effect. Currently have a card on auction until next Monday so we'll see if that works.

GlassGuyBob · 05-21-2019, 12:45 PM

IIRC, you have to have a card deactivated when the system resets from Sunday into Monday in order to wipe stats. I believe I read this in a thread talking about training positions because they wanted to be careful about not accidentally wiping out trained positions.I haven't tried it myself because I don't care about previous stats.

Orcin · 05-21-2019, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by GlassGuyBob

IIRC, you have to have a card deactivated when the system resets from Sunday into Monday in order to wipe stats.

I will test this on Sunday night and report back.

Argonaut · 05-21-2019, 12:58 PM

I already tried this during the most recent reset and it didn't work. Had a bunch of cards deactivated, but when I reactivated them Monday morning they still had history. That's why the next step I'm trying is having them in the auction house during the reset.

Charlatan · 05-21-2019, 01:31 PM

You guys are funny. I like seeing a history on a player. It's interesting to see how much (or little) a player has been used prior to me getting him. And it makes them feel more alive.

daves · 05-22-2019, 07:47 PM

Just bought a used Pete Rose peak. Did not realize how bad he is hitting in perfect?

Goliathus · 05-22-2019, 08:10 PM

Could be a lot of factors, I wouldn't overjudge a card on past stats. For instance, if he were in a team that has all ballpark factors lowered to the bare minimum, that will certainly affect his hitting.

daves · 05-22-2019, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Goliathus

Could be a lot of factors, I wouldn't overjudge a card on past stats. For instance, if he were in a team that has all ballpark factors lowered to the bare minimum, that will certainly affect his hitting.

Not sure that is it? In 4 seasons I am the 5th owner and he only hit better than .275 once.

Goliathus · 05-22-2019, 08:17 PM

Damn, no one trusted that card, eh? I would probably run him 3 seasons myself for science but that's me. All 4 owners are PrL?

daves · 05-22-2019, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Goliathus

Damn, no one trusted that card, eh? I would probably run him 3 seasons myself for science but that's me. All 4 owners are PrL?

Yes Perfect.

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Matt Arnold · 05-22-2019, 09:52 PM

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Yes Perfect.

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I don't have the peak Rose, but the '69 All-Star with very similar ratings and he won the batting championship for me last week in Perfect.

Argonaut · 05-23-2019, 01:23 AM

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I don't have the peak Rose, but the '69 All-Star with very similar ratings and he won the batting championship for me last week in Perfect.

Matt, any idea on how we can clear a card's history? Leave it in the deactivated pile or up for auction for a certain length of time? Some of my cards have lost history (even from my own team), so I know it can be done. Leaving cards deactivated over the most recent Sunday night didn't work.

daves · 05-23-2019, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Goliathus

Damn, no one trusted that card, eh? I would probably run him 3 seasons myself for science but that's me. All 4 owners are PrL?

What makes matters worse, I bought him from the 1st place team in my division!

But he did well in my 1st 8 games. I think the other team used him as a DH.

Is there a player revenge factor rating for being sold. I am willing to bet Rose would step up and hit well if there is.

pappyzan · 05-23-2019, 11:37 AM

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What makes matters worse, I bought him from the 1st place team in my division!

But he did well in my 1st 8 games. I think the other team used him as a DH.

Is there a player revenge factor rating for being sold. I am willing to bet Rose would step up and hit well if there is.

Ha, yeh I gave that card nearly 5 months of playing time and was a little surprised he never came around on my team. I liked his ratings for 2Bs and BBs but it just didn't work out at the plate for Rose 92.

I'd bet he comes around for you, but I hope it's not this week.

Orcin · 05-23-2019, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by pappyzan

Ha, yeh I gave that card nearly 5 months of playing time and was a little surprised he never came around on my team. I liked his ratings for 2Bs and BBs but it just didn't work out at the plate for Rose 92.

He didn't work out huh. Sorry about that.

Mine has 1195 PA now with a slash line of .290/.366/.418 (all in Perfect Leagues).

daves · 05-24-2019, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by pappyzan

Ha, yeh I gave that card nearly 5 months of playing time and was a little surprised he never came around on my team. I liked his ratings for 2Bs and BBs but it just didn't work out at the plate for Rose 92.

I'd bet he comes around for you, but I hope it's not this week.

He is doing better thus far .289/.359/.363, but I still can't catch you. I think Pete needs to give the team a pep talk about how to beat you?

pappyzan · 05-24-2019, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Orcin

He didn't work out huh. Sorry about that.

Mine has 1195 PA now with a slash line of .290/.366/.418 (all in Perfect Leagues).

Nothing to apologize for, win some lose some. On the flip side, Sutton is 12-4 with a 1.72 ERA. Just never know which pieces are gonna fit and which ones don't.

pappyzan · 05-24-2019, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by daves

He is doing better thus far .289/.359/.363, but I still can't catch you. I think Pete needs to give the team a pep talk about how to beat you?

You've been inching closer for a while now tho, you're only maybe 1 or 2 games back. Both teams will likely make the playoffs, maybe even the 3rd place team in the division.

05-21-2019, 12:40 PM	#43
Argonaut All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 1,085	I'm an OCD guy so I don't like cards with history on them. Even if they have training -- I'd rather do my own training than have someone else's dirty history. I've removed some of my cards' history accidentally, don't know how it happened. Some combination of storing them in the deactivated pile or putting them up for auction. I've tried re-creating that accident with no effect. Currently have a card on auction until next Monday so we'll see if that works. __________________ Texas Rangers Dynasty (Est. 1972) Hartford Whalers Dynasty: Brass Bonanza

05-21-2019, 12:45 PM	#44
GlassGuyBob Minors (Double A) Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 121	IIRC, you have to have a card deactivated when the system resets from Sunday into Monday in order to wipe stats. I believe I read this in a thread talking about training positions because they wanted to be careful about not accidentally wiping out trained positions.I haven't tried it myself because I don't care about previous stats. __________________

05-21-2019, 12:58 PM	#46
Argonaut All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 1,085	I already tried this during the most recent reset and it didn't work. Had a bunch of cards deactivated, but when I reactivated them Monday morning they still had history. That's why the next step I'm trying is having them in the auction house during the reset. __________________ Texas Rangers Dynasty (Est. 1972) Hartford Whalers Dynasty: Brass Bonanza

05-22-2019, 07:47 PM	#48
daves Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 3,991	Just bought a used Pete Rose peak. Did not realize how bad he is hitting in perfect? __________________

05-21-2019, 12:22 PM	#41
Icy All Star Reserve Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Spain Posts: 707	I don't mind second hand cards, in fact I prefer them if they are trained for more positions. But it would be great to see it before buying, so we could bid more or less depending on how trained they are.

05-21-2019, 01:31 PM	#47
Charlatan All Star Starter Join Date: May 2006 Location: Leesburg, VA Posts: 1,492	You guys are funny. I like seeing a history on a player. It's interesting to see how much (or little) a player has been used prior to me getting him. And it makes them feel more alive.

05-22-2019, 08:10 PM	#49
Goliathus Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 449	Could be a lot of factors, I wouldn't overjudge a card on past stats. For instance, if he were in a team that has all ballpark factors lowered to the bare minimum, that will certainly affect his hitting.

05-22-2019, 08:17 PM	#51
Goliathus Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 449	Damn, no one trusted that card, eh? I would probably run him 3 seasons myself for science but that's me. All 4 owners are PrL?