Multiple Teams and Cheating

thakfu · 01-13-2019, 08:54 PM

So I just want to clarify something. I have 2 teams right now and I'm going to be starting a 3rd next week. My main team is perfect level and aren't bound to any self-imposed restrictions. My second team is still in entry league and I'm building them as a classic player only team. My third team is gonna be all Milwaukee players (Brewers and Braves).

I understand how the AH can be used to cheat the system by funneling players and PP to a team and I also know that checks have been put into place to prevent that. What I would like to know is if moving players between my teams is restricted EVEN if I'm doing so by fair market value. For instance, say I have a Robin Yount (82ovr) on one of my other teams that I want on my Milwaukee team... if I actually charge the fair market (last 5) value of 2000pp would that be cheating the system? I could see how it could be, but I also see how that would be ok. I'm still making the transaction at fair value.

I'd just rather have this clarified now before doing something that could get me in hot water. It is not my intention of cheating to unfairly improve my top team, but rather potentionally move pieces around to teams where they fit thematically, but at fair value. Basically I'm asking if all transactions between 2 teams owned by the same user are disallowed for any reason?

Thanks!

bobbycockstrong · 01-13-2019, 09:16 PM

Search around, there were similar posts and they said its ok as long as you let the auction run without a buy it now and for at least 12 hours, to give all players a fair and reasonable shot at the card.

So you maybe will have to part with a little extra PP to ensure that you get the winning bid, but otherwise based on what they said it should be ok.

traylor45 · 01-13-2019, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by bobbycockstrong

Search around, there were similar posts and they said its ok as long as you let the auction run without a buy it now and for at least 12 hours, to give all players a fair and reasonable shot at the card.

So you maybe will have to part with a little extra PP to ensure that you get the winning bid, but otherwise based on what they said it should be ok.

I hadn't seen that anywhere on here, and it really makes no sense.

I put up a silver card without a Buy it Now for 12 hours. I bid 400k for it from my 2nd account. Noone else is going to do that. I've just successfully funneled the 400k lucky Perfect Card I opened from my 2nd account to my first account.

Orcin · 01-13-2019, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by traylor45

I hadn't seen that anywhere on here, and it really makes no sense.

I put up a silver card without a Buy it Now for 12 hours. I bid 400k for it from my 2nd account. Noone else is going to do that. I've just successfully funneled the 400k lucky Perfect Card I opened from my 2nd account to my first account.

A key portion of the developer's comment was omitted in the previous post. The card must be offered for sale at fair market value.

Matt Arnold · 01-13-2019, 10:42 PM

Of note, logins on the same license are generally barred from bidding on each other. So you may not be able to even bid from your 2nd account for someone placed at auction from your main account.

And we are certainly monitoring any transactions that far exceed the norms of value, so in that 400k bid, obviously we will flag that and ban accounts that do that.

thakfu · 01-13-2019, 10:50 PM

Well that settles that. Thanks for the info.

Stanley Kuppchaser · 01-14-2019, 06:00 AM

I'm finally finished setting the rosters on my three teams, with the restriction that each team has unique players, whose seasons are at least ten years in the past (when I stopped following MLB). It made this season quite a bit of fun because there were enough players on two teams, and a couple on all three, that I had some tough decisions to make as to which team got the player in question. Going forward, the players can only be replaced by better cards on the team that has them, which could make any "pack luck" also fraught with tough choices.

BTW, anybody have a Jim Bouton iron card they can drop in the AH? I accidently sold mine and haven't seen one yet.

bobbycockstrong · 01-14-2019, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by traylor45

I hadn't seen that anywhere on here, and it really makes no sense.

I put up a silver card without a Buy it Now for 12 hours. I bid 400k for it from my 2nd account. Noone else is going to do that. I've just successfully funneled the 400k lucky Perfect Card I opened from my 2nd account to my first account.

Yeah sorry i was specifically talking about the OPs scenario where they were trying to move a card, not funnel PP, which they said was illegal.

Randro · 01-15-2019, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt Arnold

Of note, logins on the same license are generally barred from bidding on each other. So you may not be able to even bid from your 2nd account for someone placed at auction from your main account.

And we are certainly monitoring any transactions that far exceed the norms of value, so in that 400k bid, obviously we will flag that and ban accounts that do that.

If accounts are able to bid on their own cards through different accounts I would hope you would monitor auctions that have a great number of bids on them because it would benefit the seller to be able to push the price up if there is little activity (but one opening bid that is set high) on a card he's trying to sell.

Let'sGoBraves · 01-15-2019, 09:58 PM

I'm pretty sure you are blocked from bidding on players from one of your other teams. Not that it is just frowned upon, it is blocked in the game. I could be wrong.

Orcin · 01-15-2019, 10:10 PM

I know that I cannot bid on my own cards. I have tested it. Maybe others have found a way around it with multiple licenses.

01-13-2019, 08:54 PM	#1
thakfu Minors (Single A) Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 58	Multiple Teams and Cheating So I just want to clarify something. I have 2 teams right now and I'm going to be starting a 3rd next week. My main team is perfect level and aren't bound to any self-imposed restrictions. My second team is still in entry league and I'm building them as a classic player only team. My third team is gonna be all Milwaukee players (Brewers and Braves). I understand how the AH can be used to cheat the system by funneling players and PP to a team and I also know that checks have been put into place to prevent that. What I would like to know is if moving players between my teams is restricted EVEN if I'm doing so by fair market value. For instance, say I have a Robin Yount (82ovr) on one of my other teams that I want on my Milwaukee team... if I actually charge the fair market (last 5) value of 2000pp would that be cheating the system? I could see how it could be, but I also see how that would be ok. I'm still making the transaction at fair value. I'd just rather have this clarified now before doing something that could get me in hot water. It is not my intention of cheating to unfairly improve my top team, but rather potentionally move pieces around to teams where they fit thematically, but at fair value. Basically I'm asking if all transactions between 2 teams owned by the same user are disallowed for any reason? Thanks!

01-14-2019, 06:00 AM	#7
Stanley Kuppchaser Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 4,239	Shuffling Between Teams I'm finally finished setting the rosters on my three teams, with the restriction that each team has unique players, whose seasons are at least ten years in the past (when I stopped following MLB). It made this season quite a bit of fun because there were enough players on two teams, and a couple on all three, that I had some tough decisions to make as to which team got the player in question. Going forward, the players can only be replaced by better cards on the team that has them, which could make any "pack luck" also fraught with tough choices. BTW, anybody have a Jim Bouton iron card they can drop in the AH? I accidently sold mine and haven't seen one yet.

01-13-2019, 09:16 PM	#2
bobbycockstrong Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jan 2019 Posts: 178	Search around, there were similar posts and they said its ok as long as you let the auction run without a buy it now and for at least 12 hours, to give all players a fair and reasonable shot at the card. So you maybe will have to part with a little extra PP to ensure that you get the winning bid, but otherwise based on what they said it should be ok.

01-13-2019, 10:42 PM	#5
Matt Arnold OOTP Developer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Here and there Posts: 15,484	Of note, logins on the same license are generally barred from bidding on each other. So you may not be able to even bid from your 2nd account for someone placed at auction from your main account. And we are certainly monitoring any transactions that far exceed the norms of value, so in that 400k bid, obviously we will flag that and ban accounts that do that.

01-13-2019, 10:50 PM	#6
thakfu Minors (Single A) Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 58	Well that settles that. Thanks for the info.

01-15-2019, 09:58 PM	#10
Let'sGoBraves Minors (Single A) Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 98	I'm pretty sure you are blocked from bidding on players from one of your other teams. Not that it is just frowned upon, it is blocked in the game. I could be wrong.

01-15-2019, 10:10 PM	#11
Orcin Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Indiana Posts: 9,844	I know that I cannot bid on my own cards. I have tested it. Maybe others have found a way around it with multiple licenses.