How About Some News About OOTP20

Eugene Church · 01-03-2019, 01:13 AM

The new baseball season will soon be here... it would be nice to know some of the new features for OOTP20.

As usual, since OOTP3, my pet peeves are News Stories and PBP... I hope Markus will work on them this year and expand the variety in them... also hope Markus will work on the Hard Code and perfect it with more variety in the PBP... I will be glad to give Markus 20 or 30 ways to give the final score at the end of a game in the PBP so they are not so redundant... or 20 ways to describe a lopsided win at the end of a game.

The game recaps really need some work... the format needs to be revised... many times the key hit of the game is not mentioned or the key player in the game... or the wrong player is spotlighted.

I wish they would make reference to the teams position in the standings (first place New York, last place Miami)... indicate winning streaks and losing streaks.

One major request:
Wish that the News would stop highlighting shutouts, cycles, 5-hit games and such in "individual" News stories and include them in the game recaps.

And several minor requests:
How about using the team managers' names in the PBP?

How about giving the "league name" of each All-Star team when giving the score in the All-Star Game PBP?

Sorry, didn't mean to vent so much.

nutt · 01-03-2019, 02:38 PM

OOTP20 News...

OOTP is scheduled to be released in 2019.

highandoutside · 01-03-2019, 03:45 PM

I'd be happy with some more 3D upgrades and improved play-by-play. BUT most importantly, keep improving that AI, baby! Smarter AI general manager and in-game managing is the heart of the game.

This game has outstripped anything I could ever have imagined when I became a sim-baseball hobbyist in the early 80s. My dream is to one day play against an AI that truly challenges a human without the human having to play with house rules (for instance I put a hard salary cap on my team, inflate the AI's revenue, play stats only and give the AI 28-man rosters to my 25, etc etc.)

swoboda · 01-03-2019, 05:47 PM

Agree with the comments above, but my top priority is game stability. I have had a fatal crash in a custom League two years in a row. Thank goodness for backups.
One small request I make each year is sortable stats at the team level within each league.

mitchkenn · 01-03-2019, 05:54 PM

i'd like to know what is going to happen with the historical play. i've sort of gone away from playing historical, due to the under-rating of the Negro League Players as a AAA level. Instead i've gone fictional, where i hand enter all the NL players and assimilate them into my game that way. Would love to see that elevated to ML in quality and stature.

mgom27 · 01-03-2019, 06:29 PM

A lot needs to be added like in League Evolution Team Contract with Minor League Team,Futures Game,Home Run Derby and so on.

texasmame · 01-03-2019, 06:42 PM

The AI is the most important thing to keep improving at this point. It's good, but it could be better.

texasmame · 01-03-2019, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eugene Church

One major request:
Wish that the News would stop highlighting shutouts, cycles, 5-hit games and such in "individual" News stories and include them in the game recaps.

I think I may miss some of them if they were only in the recaps - I like the individual mails about them.

Maybe a way to turn on and off per accomplishment?

As an aside, I still haven't pitched a no-no or perfect game with the teams I've controlled. Came within ONE OUT of a no-no twice last year but no dice. I've played out 12 seasons so far, each game.

r0nster · 01-05-2019, 03:52 PM

Markus already released the very day it will be released …. yes he did

lboston1 · 01-05-2019, 04:03 PM

I think that improvements to online league play would be a good investment. Online leagues are the heart of this game, and that’s where the most enjoyment can be had as it enhances the social aspect of the game. The community that’s grown out of online leagues can grow further by making online play better, adding more tools, etc.

Eugene Church · 01-05-2019, 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by r0nster

Markus already released the very day it will be released …. yes he did

Sorry, I missed that release date.

I'm not concerned very much about the release date... I think the last few years it comes out at the beginning of the regular season.

I would just like to know some of the new features that will be in OOTP20.

It would be nice to know what areas of the game have been improved or expanded.

FSUKegman · 01-06-2019, 09:41 AM

Personally I now tend to play out a good number of my games in 3-D and would love to see that as well as the PBP improved in 20.

rjl518 · 01-06-2019, 10:09 AM

Don't worry!
Countdown to Release OOTP 20 is coming soon!

Kebel87 · 01-06-2019, 10:38 AM

I really wish there would be a seamless integration between PC and tablets (iOS and Android). Being able to play the same save on multiple device would really be a plus.

jfb8300 · 01-06-2019, 01:44 PM

I just hope the entire development cycle wasn't spent on Perfect Team when OOTP player development, especially of pitchers, is so fundamentally inaccurate as to make the game unplayable.

I've posted this graph previously in the development settings thread. It shows the percentage of pitchers, by age, who pitched 40+ innings in a season in real life (average taken from from 2016, 2017, and 2018) vs the OOTP output from a long term fictional league (also a three year average) with default development settings and feeder league draftees only.

OOTP pitchers are about 2 years older than their real life counterparts. This cannot be fixed by altering the development settings because the feeder leagues are broken, as documented in another multi page thread. OOTP is producing far too many high school draftees by default. Almost exactly the inverse of real life, which from 2015-17, was 63% college, 26% high school, 10% junior college and a handful of others.

If you try to fix that by creating more college feeder teams than high schools, you'll get to many MLB ready 21/22 year old college seniors, which in turn throws off the age distribution above.

This is a glaring issue which I really hope is addressed in OOTP20. Maybe once a month I pick the game up thinking there's a way to solve with the in game settings only to waste hours simming in circles.

Eugene Church · 01-06-2019, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jfb8300

I just hope the entire development cycle wasn't spent on Perfect Team when OOTP player development, especially of pitchers, is so fundamentally inaccurate as to make the game unplayable.

I've posted this graph previously in the development settings thread. It shows the percentage of pitchers, by age, who pitched 40+ innings in a season in real life (average taken from from 2016, 2017, and 2018) vs the OOTP output from a long term fictional league (also a three year average) with default development settings and feeder league draftees only.

OOTP pitchers are about 2 years older than their real life counterparts. This cannot be fixed by altering the development settings because the feeder leagues are broken, as documented in another multi page thread. OOTP is producing far too many high school draftees by default. Almost exactly the inverse of real life, which from 2015-17, was 63% college, 26% high school, 10% junior college and a handful of others.

If you try to fix that by creating more college feeder teams than high schools, you'll get to many MLB ready 21/22 year old college seniors, which in turn throws off the age distribution above.

This is a glaring issue which I really hope is addressed in OOTP20. Maybe once a month I pick the game up thinking there's a way to solve with the in game settings only to waste hours simming in circles.

You need to post this in its own thread so more people would see it... it could get lost here in this thread... you would think Markus would be interested in your testing and results.

Thanks for sharing it with us.

chazzycat · 01-08-2019, 04:56 PM

Unplayable because of that?? Sorry but that seems like a bit of a stretch.

How about the missing luxury tax system which is currently changing the whole economy of MLB.

Critical Mass · 01-08-2019, 07:47 PM

While I wouldn't go anywhere near the term "unplayable", the biggest problem I've seen in my fictional leagues is that there are TOO MANY RP and CL pitchers. Every draft, FA list, trading block, and waiver wire. Seems like pitchers are a 5 to 1 ratio with position players, and hardly any qualify for a SP.

krownroyal83 · 01-08-2019, 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Critical Mass

While I wouldn't go anywhere near the term "unplayable", the biggest problem I've seen in my fictional leagues is that there are TOO MANY RP and CL pitchers. Every draft, FA list, trading block, and waiver wire. Seems like pitchers are a 5 to 1 ratio with position players, and hardly any qualify for a SP.

Seen that as well. In my fictional league after like 8-10 years, talent league wide has taken a nose dive, although pitching hasn't been so bad. Most of the highest rated players are pitchers. It's gotten to the point that i just make my own drafts now so i can get the even amount of talent and increase the talent where it used to be.

chazzycat · 01-08-2019, 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Critical Mass

While I wouldn't go anywhere near the term "unplayable"...

I just re-read my comment above and realized the phrasing was pretty poor, so I wanted to clarify...I don't think the luxury tax thing missing makes the game unplayable either, not by a long shot. Would be nice tho

01-03-2019, 01:13 AM	#1
Eugene Church Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 36,143	How About Some News About OOTP20 The new baseball season will soon be here... it would be nice to know some of the new features for OOTP20. As usual, since OOTP3, my pet peeves are News Stories and PBP... I hope Markus will work on them this year and expand the variety in them... also hope Markus will work on the Hard Code and perfect it with more variety in the PBP... I will be glad to give Markus 20 or 30 ways to give the final score at the end of a game in the PBP so they are not so redundant... or 20 ways to describe a lopsided win at the end of a game. The game recaps really need some work... the format needs to be revised... many times the key hit of the game is not mentioned or the key player in the game... or the wrong player is spotlighted. I wish they would make reference to the teams position in the standings (first place New York, last place Miami)... indicate winning streaks and losing streaks. One major request: Wish that the News would stop highlighting shutouts, cycles, 5-hit games and such in "individual" News stories and include them in the game recaps. And several minor requests: How about using the team managers' names in the PBP? How about giving the "league name" of each All-Star team when giving the score in the All-Star Game PBP? Sorry, didn't mean to vent so much. Last edited by Eugene Church; 01-03-2019 at 01:27 AM.

01-03-2019, 03:45 PM	#3
highandoutside All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 686	I'd be happy with some more 3D upgrades and improved play-by-play. BUT most importantly, keep improving that AI, baby! Smarter AI general manager and in-game managing is the heart of the game. This game has outstripped anything I could ever have imagined when I became a sim-baseball hobbyist in the early 80s. My dream is to one day play against an AI that truly challenges a human without the human having to play with house rules (for instance I put a hard salary cap on my team, inflate the AI's revenue, play stats only and give the AI 28-man rosters to my 25, etc etc.) Last edited by highandoutside; 01-03-2019 at 03:46 PM.

01-03-2019, 05:47 PM	#4
swoboda All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Guarding The Line Posts: 1,228	Agree with the comments above, but my top priority is game stability. I have had a fatal crash in a custom League two years in a row. Thank goodness for backups. One small request I make each year is sortable stats at the team level within each league. __________________ "...If you want to look ahead to the bottom of the ninth, the Mets will be sending up Buddy Harrelson, Jerry Buchek , and Don Bosch, we'll be right back after this word from Rheingold Beer" The late great Lindsey Nelson

01-03-2019, 05:54 PM	#5
mitchkenn Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Oregon, not by design Posts: 2,872	i'd like to know what is going to happen with the historical play. i've sort of gone away from playing historical, due to the under-rating of the Negro League Players as a AAA level. Instead i've gone fictional, where i hand enter all the NL players and assimilate them into my game that way. Would love to see that elevated to ML in quality and stature. __________________ "This is my opening farewell " - Jackson Browne “They make a desolation and call it peace.” ― Agha Shahid Ali "Maybe she just has to sing, for the sake of the song - And who do I think that I am to decide that she's wrong." - Townes Van Zandt "I saw a young man leaning on his wooden crutch - He called out to me, 'Don't ask for so much' And a young woman leaning in her darkened door She cried out to me, 'Why not ask for more?' " - Leonard Cohen "Hello darkness, my old Friend ...." - Paul Simon Before Mays, before DiMaggio, there was Oscar Charleston. "All the lies about Babe Ruth are true." - Waite Hoyt Avatar is the late great Townes Van Zandt. rip.

01-03-2019, 06:29 PM	#6
mgom27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 3,531	A lot needs to be added like in League Evolution Team Contract with Minor League Team,Futures Game,Home Run Derby and so on. __________________ Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!

01-03-2019, 02:38 PM	#2
nutt OOTP Roster Team Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 2,247	OOTP20 News... OOTP is scheduled to be released in 2019.

01-03-2019, 06:42 PM	#7
texasmame All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Planet Texas Posts: 1,666	The AI is the most important thing to keep improving at this point. It's good, but it could be better. __________________ Managing and rebuilding the 98-loss TOKYO THUNDER.

01-05-2019, 03:52 PM	#9
r0nster Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 3,077	Markus already released the very day it will be released …. yes he did

01-05-2019, 04:03 PM	#10
lboston1 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 55	I think that improvements to online league play would be a good investment. Online leagues are the heart of this game, and that’s where the most enjoyment can be had as it enhances the social aspect of the game. The community that’s grown out of online leagues can grow further by making online play better, adding more tools, etc.

01-06-2019, 09:41 AM	#12
FSUKegman Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Tallahassee, FL. Posts: 245	Personally I now tend to play out a good number of my games in 3-D and would love to see that as well as the PBP improved in 20.

01-06-2019, 10:09 AM	#13
rjl518 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Born in Shea Stadium, lives in LoanDepot Park. Posts: 6,243	Don't worry! Countdown to Release OOTP 20 is coming soon! __________________ My Threads: MLB Project 32 by SFGiants58 "Colon looking for his 1st hit of the year and he DRIVES ONE! Deep left field! Back goes Upton! Back near the wall! ITS OUTTA HERE!!! Bartolo has done it!!! THE IMPOSSIBLE HAS HAPPENED!!! This is one of the great moments in the history of baseball! Bartolo Colon has gone deep!" ---Gary Cohen. (May 7, 2016) (Petco Park) NYM 6 @ SD 3

01-06-2019, 10:38 AM	#14
Kebel87 Bat Boy Join Date: Jan 2018 Posts: 11	I really wish there would be a seamless integration between PC and tablets (iOS and Android). Being able to play the same save on multiple device would really be a plus.

01-06-2019, 01:44 PM	#15
jfb8300 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 134	I just hope the entire development cycle wasn't spent on Perfect Team when OOTP player development, especially of pitchers, is so fundamentally inaccurate as to make the game unplayable. I've posted this graph previously in the development settings thread. It shows the percentage of pitchers, by age, who pitched 40+ innings in a season in real life (average taken from from 2016, 2017, and 2018) vs the OOTP output from a long term fictional league (also a three year average) with default development settings and feeder league draftees only. OOTP pitchers are about 2 years older than their real life counterparts. This cannot be fixed by altering the development settings because the feeder leagues are broken, as documented in another multi page thread. OOTP is producing far too many high school draftees by default. Almost exactly the inverse of real life, which from 2015-17, was 63% college, 26% high school, 10% junior college and a handful of others. If you try to fix that by creating more college feeder teams than high schools, you'll get to many MLB ready 21/22 year old college seniors, which in turn throws off the age distribution above. This is a glaring issue which I really hope is addressed in OOTP20. Maybe once a month I pick the game up thinking there's a way to solve with the in game settings only to waste hours simming in circles. Attached Images

01-08-2019, 04:56 PM	#17
chazzycat All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 1,685	Unplayable because of that?? Sorry but that seems like a bit of a stretch. How about the missing luxury tax system which is currently changing the whole economy of MLB.

01-08-2019, 07:47 PM	#18
Critical Mass Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 273	While I wouldn't go anywhere near the term "unplayable", the biggest problem I've seen in my fictional leagues is that there are TOO MANY RP and CL pitchers. Every draft, FA list, trading block, and waiver wire. Seems like pitchers are a 5 to 1 ratio with position players, and hardly any qualify for a SP.