Hammerin Hank Aaron pitching?

mcdog512 · 12-24-2018, 08:08 PM

No idea why but Aaron got thrown in there to walk a guy and get an out....seems REALLY odd.

COOPER BATTING LINESCORE
Player AB R H RBI BB K LOB AVG HR RBI
T. Turner SS 6 1 1 0 0 0 4 .273 0 4
B. Phillips 2B 5 1 2 1 0 1 3 .313 2 6
G. Polanco RF 4 1 0 0 1 1 1 .283 1 12
A. Rendon 3B 3 2 0 0 2 2 1 .236 0 5
J. Donaldson DH 4 3 3 2 1 1 0 .298 1 9
S. Hatteberg 1B 4 2 2 2 1 0 1 .286 0 2
T. Pham LF 5 1 2 5 0 1 2 .237 1 10
G. Springer CF 5 0 2 1 0 0 1 .268 3 12
G. Sanchez C 3 0 0 0 2 1 2 .038 0 1
Totals 39 11 12 11 7 7 15

BATTING
Doubles: S. Hatteberg (1, 6th Inning off C. Carrasco, 1 on, 0 outs) T. Pham (3, 6th Inning off C. Carrasco, 1 on, 0 outs) T. Turner (4, 1st Inning off C. Carrasco, 0 on, 0 outs)
Home Runs: T. Pham (1, 9th Inning off C. Carrasco, 2 on, 2 outs) B. Phillips (2, 9th Inning off C. Carrasco, 0 on, 1 out)
Total Bases: S. Hatteberg 3 , T. Pham 6 , T. Turner 2 , J. Donaldson 3 , B. Phillips 5 , G. Springer 2
2-out RBI: S. Hatteberg , T. Pham , G. Springer
Runners left in scoring position, 2 outs: G. Sanchez , T. Turner , B. Phillips
Team LOB: 7

FIELDING
Errors: S. Hatteberg (1)
Double Plays: 1 (Hatteberg-Turner-Hatteberg)

Player AB R H RBI BB K LOB AVG HR RBI
T. Davis CF 4 0 0 0 0 1 2 .276 2 10
D. Allen 3B 4 0 1 1 0 0 0 .297 3 7
J. Martinez LF 3 0 0 0 0 1 0 .318 4 13
a-M. Minoso PH 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .200 0 0
L. Gehrig 1B 3 0 1 1 0 0 2 .242 1 5
H. Killebrew DH 4 0 0 0 0 3 3 .184 2 11
R. Smith RF 3 0 0 0 0 0 1 .294 3 8
D. Johnson 2B 2 0 0 0 1 1 1 .235 1 7
D. Money SS 3 1 0 0 0 1 1 .133 0 1
D. Porter C 3 1 1 0 0 0 1 .118 0 0
Totals 29 2 3 2 1 7 11
a - M. Minoso pinch hit for J. Martinez in the 9th

BATTING
Doubles: D. Allen (7, 9th Inning off Y. Darvish, 2 on, 1 out)
Total Bases: D. Allen 2 , L. Gehrig , D. Porter
Runners left in scoring position, 2 outs: H. Killebrew
GIDP: D. Porter
Sac Fly: L. Gehrig
Hit by Pitch: M. Minoso
Team LOB: 3

REDDING PITCHING LINESCORE COOPER PITCHING LINESCORE
Player IP H R ER BB K HR PI PS ERA
Y. Darvish W (2-0) 9.0 3 2 0 1 7 0 107 67 2.81

PITCHING
Game Score: Y. Darvish 83
Batters Faced: Y. Darvish 32
Ground Outs - Fly Outs: Y. Darvish 6-13
Pitches - Strikes: Y. Darvish 107-67
Hit Batsmen: Y. Darvish

Player IP H R ER BB K HR PI PS ERA
C. Carrasco L (2-2) 8.2 12 11 11 6 7 2 173 108 8.44
H. Aaron 0.1 0 0 0 1 0 0 7 3 0.00
PITCHING
Game Score: C. Carrasco 17
Batters Faced: C. Carrasco 44, H. Aaron 2
Ground Outs - Fly Outs: C. Carrasco 12-7, H. Aaron 0-1
Pitches - Strikes: C. Carrasco 173-108, H. Aaron 7-3
Inherited Runners - Scored: H. Aaron 1-0
WP: C. Carrasco
Balk: H. Aaron

GAME NOTES
Player of the Game: Yu Darvish
Ballpark: Under My Wheels Stadium
Weather: Clear skies (74 degrees), no wind
Start Time: 7:10 PM EST
Time: 3:19
Attendance: 34845

Matt Arnold · 12-24-2018, 09:18 PM

By my count it was 11-2 at that point, so the manager decided to use up a position player on the mound instead of wasting a reliever in a blowout.

Threnodas · 12-25-2018, 10:48 AM

And Carrasco had thrown 173 pitches, which I didn't think was possible. What's up with that team's bullpen? I'm a little surprised a position player didn't come in to pitch even earlier.

mcdog512 · 12-25-2018, 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Threnodas

And Carrasco had thrown 173 pitches, which I didn't think was possible. What's up with that team's bullpen? I'm a little surprised a position player didn't come in to pitch even earlier.

I've got 5 guys in the bullpen. Really odd game for sure.

Threnodas · 12-25-2018, 11:09 AM

Generally, 5 relievers isn't enough for modern MLB, which PT simulates. The exception could be if all your pitchers, including your relievers, are deadball-era starters with stamina > 100. Are you sure your bullpen isn't entirely exhausted on a regular basis, and/or was this game near the end of a long stretch without an off-day? I'm just saying, you can't be giving the AI many good options if it decides to ride your starter for 173 pitches.

mcdog512 · 12-25-2018, 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Threnodas

Generally, 5 relievers isn't enough for modern MLB, which PT simulates. The exception could be if all your pitchers, including your relievers, are deadball-era starters with stamina > 100. Are you sure your bullpen isn't entirely exhausted on a regular basis, and/or was this game near the end of a long stretch without an off-day? I'm just saying, you can't be giving the AI many good options if it decides to ride your starter for 173 pitches.

Well, my bullpen is:

AJ Minter
Chad Green
Sean Doolittle
Jeurys Familia
Patrck Corbin

I would have though the AI could have brought in Corbin who has good stamina but not really sure how tired they were. I should look at the games immediately before that.

mcdog512 · 12-25-2018, 11:28 AM

Looks like the entire bullpen had pitched the game before in an extra inning game, although Corbin only threw 3 pitches.

mess · 12-25-2018, 12:28 PM

I'm going to jump in on the "your bullpen was probably gassed" train here. You really should have at least 6 BP arms inc a starter in the LR role (and even that is on the low end of things)

mcdog512 · 12-25-2018, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mess

I'm going to jump in on the "your bullpen was probably gassed" train here. You really should have at least 6 BP arms inc a starter in the LR role (and even that is on the low end of things)

I added Bob Turley to the pen as a long reliever.

12-24-2018, 08:08 PM	#1
mcdog512 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Pack Robert Gibson; November 9, 1935 – October 2, 2020 Posts: 2,339	Hammerin Hank Aaron pitching? No idea why but Aaron got thrown in there to walk a guy and get an out....seems REALLY odd. COOPER BATTING LINESCORE Player AB R H RBI BB K LOB AVG HR RBI T. Turner SS 6 1 1 0 0 0 4 .273 0 4 B. Phillips 2B 5 1 2 1 0 1 3 .313 2 6 G. Polanco RF 4 1 0 0 1 1 1 .283 1 12 A. Rendon 3B 3 2 0 0 2 2 1 .236 0 5 J. Donaldson DH 4 3 3 2 1 1 0 .298 1 9 S. Hatteberg 1B 4 2 2 2 1 0 1 .286 0 2 T. Pham LF 5 1 2 5 0 1 2 .237 1 10 G. Springer CF 5 0 2 1 0 0 1 .268 3 12 G. Sanchez C 3 0 0 0 2 1 2 .038 0 1 Totals 39 11 12 11 7 7 15 BATTING Doubles: S. Hatteberg (1, 6th Inning off C. Carrasco, 1 on, 0 outs) T. Pham (3, 6th Inning off C. Carrasco, 1 on, 0 outs) T. Turner (4, 1st Inning off C. Carrasco, 0 on, 0 outs) Home Runs: T. Pham (1, 9th Inning off C. Carrasco, 2 on, 2 outs) B. Phillips (2, 9th Inning off C. Carrasco, 0 on, 1 out) Total Bases: S. Hatteberg 3 , T. Pham 6 , T. Turner 2 , J. Donaldson 3 , B. Phillips 5 , G. Springer 2 2-out RBI: S. Hatteberg , T. Pham , G. Springer Runners left in scoring position, 2 outs: G. Sanchez , T. Turner , B. Phillips Team LOB: 7 FIELDING Errors: S. Hatteberg (1) Double Plays: 1 (Hatteberg-Turner-Hatteberg) Player AB R H RBI BB K LOB AVG HR RBI T. Davis CF 4 0 0 0 0 1 2 .276 2 10 D. Allen 3B 4 0 1 1 0 0 0 .297 3 7 J. Martinez LF 3 0 0 0 0 1 0 .318 4 13 a-M. Minoso PH 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .200 0 0 L. Gehrig 1B 3 0 1 1 0 0 2 .242 1 5 H. Killebrew DH 4 0 0 0 0 3 3 .184 2 11 R. Smith RF 3 0 0 0 0 0 1 .294 3 8 D. Johnson 2B 2 0 0 0 1 1 1 .235 1 7 D. Money SS 3 1 0 0 0 1 1 .133 0 1 D. Porter C 3 1 1 0 0 0 1 .118 0 0 Totals 29 2 3 2 1 7 11 a - M. Minoso pinch hit for J. Martinez in the 9th BATTING Doubles: D. Allen (7, 9th Inning off Y. Darvish, 2 on, 1 out) Total Bases: D. Allen 2 , L. Gehrig , D. Porter Runners left in scoring position, 2 outs: H. Killebrew GIDP: D. Porter Sac Fly: L. Gehrig Hit by Pitch: M. Minoso Team LOB: 3 REDDING PITCHING LINESCORE COOPER PITCHING LINESCORE Player IP H R ER BB K HR PI PS ERA Y. Darvish W (2-0) 9.0 3 2 0 1 7 0 107 67 2.81 PITCHING Game Score: Y. Darvish 83 Batters Faced: Y. Darvish 32 Ground Outs - Fly Outs: Y. Darvish 6-13 Pitches - Strikes: Y. Darvish 107-67 Hit Batsmen: Y. Darvish Player IP H R ER BB K HR PI PS ERA C. Carrasco L (2-2) 8.2 12 11 11 6 7 2 173 108 8.44 H. Aaron 0.1 0 0 0 1 0 0 7 3 0.00 PITCHING Game Score: C. Carrasco 17 Batters Faced: C. Carrasco 44, H. Aaron 2 Ground Outs - Fly Outs: C. Carrasco 12-7, H. Aaron 0-1 Pitches - Strikes: C. Carrasco 173-108, H. Aaron 7-3 Inherited Runners - Scored: H. Aaron 1-0 WP: C. Carrasco Balk: H. Aaron GAME NOTES Player of the Game: Yu Darvish Ballpark: Under My Wheels Stadium Weather: Clear skies (74 degrees), no wind Start Time: 7:10 PM EST Time: 3:19 Attendance: 34845

12-25-2018, 12:28 PM	#8
mess Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Toronto, ON, Canada Posts: 202	I'm going to jump in on the "your bullpen was probably gassed" train here. You really should have at least 6 BP arms inc a starter in the LR role (and even that is on the low end of things) __________________

12-24-2018, 09:18 PM	#2
Matt Arnold OOTP Developer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Here and there Posts: 16,254	By my count it was 11-2 at that point, so the manager decided to use up a position player on the mound instead of wasting a reliever in a blowout.

12-25-2018, 10:48 AM	#3
Threnodas Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 256	And Carrasco had thrown 173 pitches, which I didn't think was possible. What's up with that team's bullpen? I'm a little surprised a position player didn't come in to pitch even earlier.

12-25-2018, 11:09 AM	#5
Threnodas Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 256	Generally, 5 relievers isn't enough for modern MLB, which PT simulates. The exception could be if all your pitchers, including your relievers, are deadball-era starters with stamina > 100. Are you sure your bullpen isn't entirely exhausted on a regular basis, and/or was this game near the end of a long stretch without an off-day? I'm just saying, you can't be giving the AI many good options if it decides to ride your starter for 173 pitches.

12-25-2018, 11:28 AM	#7
mcdog512 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Pack Robert Gibson; November 9, 1935 – October 2, 2020 Posts: 2,339	Looks like the entire bullpen had pitched the game before in an extra inning game, although Corbin only threw 3 pitches.