I've lost roster control! - Page 2

Kris Jardine · 12-07-2018, 01:56 PM

The security checks are used to prevent people from exploiting the game. Its unfortunate that we need to have them there, but they are necessary.

Thalion · 12-07-2018, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

This only happens when your team fails our safety checks for ensuring it is set up in a proper manner. So, if you have position players in your pitching staff who can't pitch, or incomplete lineups or an incomplete pitching rotation etc. the AI is forced on your team. Make sure this team is set up properly, with a 4 or 5 man rotation out of pitchers, a proper bullpen and proper lineups.

How many pitchers do you need in the bullpen?

I'm running with 6 right now and everything is fine. Thinking of dropping down to 5. Most of the bullpen are starters so have lots of stamina.

Note: Have a 5 man starting rotation.

genuvar · 12-07-2018, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Kris Jardine

The security checks are used to prevent people from exploiting the game. Its unfortunate that we need to have them there, but they are necessary.

I understand that, though I dont know what exploits people found during beta that you guys are preventing, but there must be a way to prevent those while still allowing people the freedom to design a team the way they want.

Being forced to have a 4-5 man rotation and 5 relievers (1 closer, 2 setup, 2 MR) (I think that was what the game was doing) doesnt seem to be neccessary. If you are going to force people to have these requirements it probably should have been stated somewhere instead of us waking up in the morning to find things changed suddenly.

I'm only 1 out of however many users you have registered now but my real enjoyment was creating a dead ball era esque team and competing against all these modern era team styles and players. The change to using this safety check has ruined that and makes me want to chalk everything I've spent and invested into this game mode as a loss and move on.

Matt Arnold · 12-07-2018, 02:14 PM

FYI you need at least 20 guys on the active roster, 4 starters, 7 guys in each lineup, and 4 relievers (or 4 guys with reliever roles set). Markus may decide to change those limits in the future, but especially with the talent of teams, less than that won't work, even if all your starters have max stamina.

genuvar · 12-07-2018, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt Arnold

FYI you need at least 20 guys on the active roster, 4 starters, 7 guys in each lineup, and 4 relievers (or 4 guys with reliever roles set). Markus may decide to change those limits in the future, but especially with the talent of teams, less than that won't work, even if all your starters have max stamina.

This needed to be stated when the change was made because now I know how to fix the issue.

genuvar · 12-07-2018, 02:34 PM

I said this in discord but wanted to repeat it here. Please update the FAQ with this information or post it somewhere where it is able to be seen by all (not everyone is going to browse the bug threads). I am probably not the only one that has had this issue and there will probably be more in the future that will need to know.

BoofBonser26 · 12-07-2018, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt Arnold

FYI you need at least 20 guys on the active roster, 4 starters, 7 guys in each lineup, and 4 relievers (or 4 guys with reliever roles set). Markus may decide to change those limits in the future, but especially with the talent of teams, less than that won't work, even if all your starters have max stamina.

Thank you very much for stating this clearly. I'd humbly suggest that this be added to the FAQ, and if these limits are adjusted in the future (and I believe they need to be to allow deadball era players, who are not exploiting the game, to have fun), an announcement is made. If this restrictions must be, so be it, but it'll go down a lot smoother with the community if it's not a change made in secret where we can't tell if it's a bug or not.

lboston1 · 12-08-2018, 04:31 AM

I've had the same lineup the whole time, with no gaps in relievers or roles not set, and this has happened to me. I've come back with some of my best performing players on 14 day cooldown. Very frustrating as it made my team, who was already on a terrible run going from 1st (at .600) in the division to 2nd, to an even worse run with barely scratching .500 and falling into 3rd place as it happened while I was away for the day.

genuvar · 12-08-2018, 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt Arnold

FYI you need at least 20 guys on the active roster, 4 starters, 7 guys in each lineup, and 4 relievers (or 4 guys with reliever roles set). Markus may decide to change those limits in the future, but especially with the talent of teams, less than that won't work, even if all your starters have max stamina.

Matt or Markus is there anything else besides 4 guys with relievers roles set? My pitching staff got moved around again to closer, 2 SU, and it removed the starters I also had set to play in relief. Its a 5 man rotation so there are enough starters.

genuvar · 12-08-2018, 09:36 AM

It also reorganized my lineups again even though those are very normal.

cfagyal · 12-08-2018, 06:58 PM

I'm having the same issue and I've always had a 5 man rotation, 6 relievers, fully set lineups vs left and right... the last 2 sims i've tried to add some new players (just upgrading less talented players with more talented ones), and its reset my changes both times, and actually reduced my team from a full 25 man roster down to 23. It put a few of the 80+ gold players I put into my team on my inactive list even. There is no logical explanation for this.

Edit: My changes were saved this latest sim. All I did differently was close out of PT to force a save, and then log out and log back in.

sharknut · 12-08-2018, 11:33 PM

The game is not playing the lineup I select. Both the regular lineup and the 7 day lineups are being ignored. I have 5 SP, 7RP, 5IF. 2C and 6OF and 7 reserve players.

beatle · 12-09-2018, 05:43 PM

Security checks on line-up changes, my eye- BS, and my roster was just fine. The AI make changes when it wants to. I spent money on this game, PT, but no more! I am done with further purchases now and in the future! Live and learn No control, Humans first! The AI needs the Terminator.

By the way the program still crashes at times in the auction section. And how come I get bid errors every now and them. That must be a security check too! LOL

Markus Heinsohn · 12-10-2018, 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beatle

Security checks on line-up changes, my eye- BS, and my roster was just fine. The AI make changes when it wants to. I spent money on this game, PT, but no more! I am done with further purchases now and in the future! Live and learn No control, Humans first! The AI needs the Terminator.

By the way the program still crashes at times in the auction section. And how come I get bid errors every now and them. That must be a security check too! LOL

Make sure you update to the latest version, and check your AI settings in the profile & settings tab of the PT home screen. If the settings are fine, the AI will not touch your team unless it absolutely has to.

beatle · 12-10-2018, 06:39 PM

No Markus, Your Game has a problem and your refuse to listen! I am updated and my settings are fine. For example, I have a batter set to hit 7th, hitting 200, and the AI puts him at 4th, maybe because of ratings! The hitter who should hit 4th, hitting over 300, gets moved down to 7th,hitting. this happen every now and then causes potential a loss. The higher rated player is not as good, performance wise, as the lower rated player which is why I bat him 4th. But the AI thinks it knows better without consulting stats even. Note this happened last season too but not during beta. You should listen to people rather than hold on to perceptions of what should be rather than what is happening; that is not reality.

Houston we have a problem! LOL

sharkybc · 12-10-2018, 08:58 PM

I have noticed when a guy is tired and your backup replaces him for the next game, the AI will alter the lineup. Sometimes drastically. I have all my reserves to play "only when starter is tired" but if you have some backups that are set to play "every 3rd start" or something, then the AI may be altering the lineups on those days as well. I don't know if this was intended by the developers, but it for sure happens.

Socali · 12-10-2018, 11:00 PM

I just got home and all kinds of roster moves have been made! My team had everything set up properly as it has since beta. Something is not right.

After seeing this mess, I downloaded and installed latest version. I'll have to wait for a couple of my starters to finish time after being put on reserve. Eventually the team will be set back up as it was before, there was nothing wrong with it. We will see what happens.

Socali · 12-10-2018, 11:49 PM

After going through and reading everything...this is just insane. My team WAS fine! 5 man starting rotation (ALL pitchers)...7 relievers (ALL pitchers) with roles SPECIFIED...both lineups FILLED with positions players at their PROPER positions. THIS is BS.

Now I have ONE backup shortstop that was EXHAUSTED because my starter was put on reserve!

Don't tell me I had something funky with my team when I didn't!

Message Addendum (next day): ok, that really happened. There was nothing wrong with my roster. At first I thought someone hacked my account, so I changed my password, but I realized if that happened they would have done far worse. Here is my question, so if AI took control of my team why did it leave me with ONE shortstop?

Sorry, for venting as I did last night but I was really upset because I can’t check my team throughout the day. There is a bug somewhere here, my team was very appropriately set up.

Orcin · 12-11-2018, 10:18 AM

Do you leave the game open/running when you are not actively playing?

Are you sure roster control is set to you?

Socali · 12-11-2018, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Orcin

Do you leave the game open/running when you are not actively playing?

Are you sure roster control is set to you?

1. No.
2. Always has been and one of first settings I did before first beta season. I checked after coming upon this mess and confirmed that it still was.

Thanks for trying to help.

12-07-2018, 01:56 PM	#21
Kris Jardine OOTP Developments Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Miramichi, NB, Canada Posts: 1,022	The security checks are used to prevent people from exploiting the game. Its unfortunate that we need to have them there, but they are necessary. __________________ Out of the Park Baseball 22 is available NOW! Webstore - https://ootpdevelopments.onfastspring.com/games/ Steam - https://store.steampowered.com/app/1...k_Baseball_22/

12-08-2018, 06:58 PM	#31
cfagyal Minors (Single A) Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 69	I'm having the same issue and I've always had a 5 man rotation, 6 relievers, fully set lineups vs left and right... the last 2 sims i've tried to add some new players (just upgrading less talented players with more talented ones), and its reset my changes both times, and actually reduced my team from a full 25 man roster down to 23. It put a few of the 80+ gold players I put into my team on my inactive list even. There is no logical explanation for this. Edit: My changes were saved this latest sim. All I did differently was close out of PT to force a save, and then log out and log back in. Last edited by cfagyal; 12-08-2018 at 07:03 PM.

12-08-2018, 11:33 PM	#32
sharknut All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2017 Posts: 1,064	The game is not playing the lineup I select. Both the regular lineup and the 7 day lineups are being ignored. I have 5 SP, 7RP, 5IF. 2C and 6OF and 7 reserve players. Last edited by sharknut; 12-08-2018 at 11:48 PM.

12-09-2018, 05:43 PM	#33
beatle All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 629	Security checks on line-up changes, my eye- BS, and my roster was just fine. The AI make changes when it wants to. I spent money on this game, PT, but no more! I am done with further purchases now and in the future! Live and learn No control, Humans first! The AI needs the Terminator. By the way the program still crashes at times in the auction section. And how come I get bid errors every now and them. That must be a security check too! LOL __________________ If you hang with the buzzards, you eat the dead mule! Beatle

12-10-2018, 06:39 PM	#35
beatle All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 629	No Markus, Your Game has a problem and your refuse to listen! I am updated and my settings are fine. For example, I have a batter set to hit 7th, hitting 200, and the AI puts him at 4th, maybe because of ratings! The hitter who should hit 4th, hitting over 300, gets moved down to 7th,hitting. this happen every now and then causes potential a loss. The higher rated player is not as good, performance wise, as the lower rated player which is why I bat him 4th. But the AI thinks it knows better without consulting stats even. Note this happened last season too but not during beta. You should listen to people rather than hold on to perceptions of what should be rather than what is happening; that is not reality. Houston we have a problem! LOL __________________ If you hang with the buzzards, you eat the dead mule! Beatle

12-07-2018, 02:14 PM	#24
Matt Arnold OOTP Developer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Here and there Posts: 15,827	FYI you need at least 20 guys on the active roster, 4 starters, 7 guys in each lineup, and 4 relievers (or 4 guys with reliever roles set). Markus may decide to change those limits in the future, but especially with the talent of teams, less than that won't work, even if all your starters have max stamina.

12-07-2018, 02:34 PM	#26
genuvar Minors (Single A) Join Date: Apr 2018 Posts: 96	I said this in discord but wanted to repeat it here. Please update the FAQ with this information or post it somewhere where it is able to be seen by all (not everyone is going to browse the bug threads). I am probably not the only one that has had this issue and there will probably be more in the future that will need to know.

12-08-2018, 04:31 AM	#28
lboston1 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 55	I've had the same lineup the whole time, with no gaps in relievers or roles not set, and this has happened to me. I've come back with some of my best performing players on 14 day cooldown. Very frustrating as it made my team, who was already on a terrible run going from 1st (at .600) in the division to 2nd, to an even worse run with barely scratching .500 and falling into 3rd place as it happened while I was away for the day.

12-08-2018, 09:36 AM	#30
genuvar Minors (Single A) Join Date: Apr 2018 Posts: 96	It also reorganized my lineups again even though those are very normal.

12-10-2018, 08:58 PM	#36
sharkybc Bat Boy Join Date: Nov 2018 Posts: 19	I have noticed when a guy is tired and your backup replaces him for the next game, the AI will alter the lineup. Sometimes drastically. I have all my reserves to play "only when starter is tired" but if you have some backups that are set to play "every 3rd start" or something, then the AI may be altering the lineups on those days as well. I don't know if this was intended by the developers, but it for sure happens.

12-10-2018, 11:00 PM	#37
Socali Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 211 Infractions: 0/1 (2)	I just got home and all kinds of roster moves have been made! My team had everything set up properly as it has since beta. Something is not right. After seeing this mess, I downloaded and installed latest version. I'll have to wait for a couple of my starters to finish time after being put on reserve. Eventually the team will be set back up as it was before, there was nothing wrong with it. We will see what happens.

12-10-2018, 11:49 PM	#38
Socali Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 211 Infractions: 0/1 (2)	After going through and reading everything...this is just insane. My team WAS fine! 5 man starting rotation (ALL pitchers)...7 relievers (ALL pitchers) with roles SPECIFIED...both lineups FILLED with positions players at their PROPER positions. THIS is BS. Now I have ONE backup shortstop that was EXHAUSTED because my starter was put on reserve! Don't tell me I had something funky with my team when I didn't! Message Addendum (next day): ok, that really happened. There was nothing wrong with my roster. At first I thought someone hacked my account, so I changed my password, but I realized if that happened they would have done far worse. Here is my question, so if AI took control of my team why did it leave me with ONE shortstop? Sorry, for venting as I did last night but I was really upset because I can’t check my team throughout the day. There is a bug somewhere here, my team was very appropriately set up. Last edited by Socali; 12-11-2018 at 10:03 AM.

12-11-2018, 10:18 AM	#39
Orcin Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Indiana Posts: 9,849	Do you leave the game open/running when you are not actively playing? Are you sure roster control is set to you?