Nooooooooo!!!!!!

nutt · 11-26-2018, 04:32 PM

Hard Disk Drive Failure is imminent. Please back up files accordingly.

Now, I get to hope I can recover my game save and other stuff I've been working on. Four years (in game time) of a franchise that I've dumped so much free time in re-building and re-tooling the Reds with about 20 international leagues a well.

texasmame · 11-26-2018, 05:22 PM

At least you got a warning!

Bluenoser · 11-26-2018, 05:30 PM

You've invested 4 years in a league and you don't make regular backups

Hope you can save it.

nutt · 11-26-2018, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bluenoser

You've invested 4 years in a league and you don't make regular backups

Hope you can save it.

I back it up annually on January 1st of the save. I just didn't think to create the backup save on an external drive. That's the thing.

dmacgreg37 · 11-26-2018, 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nutt

I back it up annually on January 1st of the save. I just didn't think to create the backup save on an external drive. That's the thing.

I just did this for my whole PC the other day. I hadn't done it since February and was unnerved, as it can totally slip the mind. I try to every 3-4 months.

Charley575 · 11-26-2018, 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nutt

Hard Disk Drive Failure is imminent. Please back up files accordingly.

Now, I get to hope I can recover my game save and other stuff I've been working on. Four years (in game time) of a franchise that I've dumped so much free time in re-building and re-tooling the Reds with about 20 international leagues a well.

Fortunately you got a warning. Last Saturday morning I woke up and sat in front of my computer to discover that Windows Update had attempted (and failed) to install a Windows update, and my entire HD was LOST. Blank and unformatted. So, yeah. But now I have an SSD and life is good again (except for the files I lost, of course).

koohead · 11-27-2018, 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nutt

Hard Disk Drive Failure is imminent. Please back up files accordingly.

Now, I get to hope I can recover my game save and other stuff I've been working on. Four years (in game time) of a franchise that I've dumped so much free time in re-building and re-tooling the Reds with about 20 international leagues a well.

I had that message for about 5 months on my old PC. Usually it's the boot sector that's going bad (I only got error messages when I booted up). Even when it stopped booting finally, was able to get everything off it using an external drive enclosure.

But yeah...back up your league

NoOne · 11-27-2018, 05:34 PM

go get a free program that can access the SMART feature of your HDD. (ssd's have it too, future ref). it can tell you for sure what is going wrong and how best to deal with it.

crystaldiskinfo is one.. they even have a "portable" option -- no install required, doesn't create folders in your user directories etc etc -- clean, small, just delete if you don't want or stash with other programs and keep.

my guess is c5/6 -- unrecoverable sectors related.

your sectors are going bad and they can no longer be replaced. so, you are losing disk space. it can happen slowly or quickly. no idea based on limited info.

more than likely you will have no problems backing up your files. if you don't have a second drive, use cloud storage/email storage ASAP. if you have a second drive, stop using the bad one immediately. the less you use it, the fewer the opportunities for more sectors to crap out on you. even disconnect it while you work out what to do or search on internet for answers etc. make sure it doesn't power on will help preserve it.

for reference -- i had a hdd going bad too... it lasted another ~2 years before completely not working. lol, those last couple years it crawled... maybe 2mb/s instead of 80-150 depending on physical location on disk. more than enough to play videos and music without noticing, so that's what it was used for.

since you have a backup folder and a saved game folder -- 2X as likely to get it done too. focus on the root files and the autosave directory -- heck, you have 4X chance of saving your league. maybe you lose some of the 10's of thousand htm/txt files? no big deal there. delete the corrupted ones.

markprior22 · 11-27-2018, 05:42 PM

Backing up to an external hard drive is something I do all the time. I'm in year 2023 in a game spanning several versions of OOTP. I've played out 95% of my teams games over that time. I generally back up after each game. If you aren't copying all the files and only checking for files that have changed, it doesn't really take that long. I definitely do not want to lose my OOTP stuff.

spacer15415 · 11-30-2018, 01:42 PM

I back up monthly in game time to my hard drive and to a external hard drive. I only lose years of game play ONCE

polydamas · 11-30-2018, 02:04 PM

You can also compress the backup and upload it to Google Drive. That way you can get it even if you lose your external harddrive.

nutt · 11-30-2018, 06:06 PM

We will see. Thanks for the all the info provided guys! I'm going to see what can be done this weekend with it. I did buy a new tower on Cyber Monday though!

NoOne · 12-03-2018, 11:59 PM

salvage parts! the ram likely isn't compatible, but if you have a 2nd drive or anything, don't toss it. even the power supply might be wortwhile to store in a box. sata cables etc... lots of stuff you may re-use. non-integrated gpu? definitely pull that out if not too old. wifi adapter etc... that can save you $50-100 off next purhcase and it's only worth ~$5 in parts. they really squeeze it out of you on the small stuff.

Hotwheelz · 12-05-2018, 11:51 AM

I backup to Dropbox and an external drive (other than the one OOTP is installed on) and I think you can still get a free Dropbox account that would work for something that small.

NoOne · 12-05-2018, 07:10 PM

most email accounts allow for enough gigs to contain an ootp league as an attachment too.

defintiely never a need to pay for such a thing. i'd pick out an online storage based on speed... google will give you 10MB/s. (not bits, but Bytes) and as far as i know it's free and you get 15gb? likely already have an account too => even easier. or use google drive with same results and account.

wallewalls · 12-06-2018, 04:49 PM

yeah i know the feeling. my laptop that i play OOTP on is starting to go and a couple weeks ago i was having really bad problems with it and was so scared that my ootp game was gonna be gone forever. i have since gotten it fixed and now am so paranoid about these popping up again that i have been backing the game up very frequently. hopefully when i get a new PC next year i dont have to deal with this anymore

nutt · 12-10-2018, 03:18 PM

My issue is, I'm going to shell out money to have the hard drive recovered, mainly more for the files and not the game save in itself.

jimmysthebestcop · 12-15-2018, 04:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wallewalls

yeah i know the feeling. my laptop that i play OOTP on is starting to go and a couple weeks ago i was having really bad problems with it and was so scared that my ootp game was gonna be gone forever. i have since gotten it fixed and now am so paranoid about these popping up again that i have been backing the game up very frequently. hopefully when i get a new PC next year i dont have to deal with this anymore

What kind of computer are you looking at? Laptop or Desktop? Strictly for gaming? Or a catch all?

Google Drive gives you 15gb free storage. So you can either copy the backup there manually or install their desktop software and always keep your OOTP data folder in sync to the google drive.

If you sync you can actually move around to multiple computers without having to jump through any hoops.

polydamas · 12-15-2018, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nutt

My issue is, I'm going to shell out money to have the hard drive recovered, mainly more for the files and not the game save in itself.

You should get an SSD. I recently moved OOTP to an SSD and it soooo fast.

nutt · 12-18-2018, 05:41 PM

Docking station recovery has failed. Freezing the drive is the next step. Afterward, who knows.

11-26-2018, 04:32 PM	#1
nutt OOTP Roster Team Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 2,268	Nooooooooo!!!!!! Hard Disk Drive Failure is imminent. Please back up files accordingly. Now, I get to hope I can recover my game save and other stuff I've been working on. Four years (in game time) of a franchise that I've dumped so much free time in re-building and re-tooling the Reds with about 20 international leagues a well.

11-26-2018, 05:22 PM	#2
texasmame All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Planet Texas Posts: 1,726	At least you got a warning! __________________ Managing and rebuilding the 98-loss TOKYO THUNDER. 62-19 at the ALL-STAR BREAK. 11 game lead in the NL West.

11-27-2018, 05:34 PM	#8
NoOne Banned Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 7,273 Infractions: 0/1 (3)	go get a free program that can access the SMART feature of your HDD. (ssd's have it too, future ref). it can tell you for sure what is going wrong and how best to deal with it. crystaldiskinfo is one.. they even have a "portable" option -- no install required, doesn't create folders in your user directories etc etc -- clean, small, just delete if you don't want or stash with other programs and keep. my guess is c5/6 -- unrecoverable sectors related. your sectors are going bad and they can no longer be replaced. so, you are losing disk space. it can happen slowly or quickly. no idea based on limited info. more than likely you will have no problems backing up your files. if you don't have a second drive, use cloud storage/email storage ASAP. if you have a second drive, stop using the bad one immediately. the less you use it, the fewer the opportunities for more sectors to crap out on you. even disconnect it while you work out what to do or search on internet for answers etc. make sure it doesn't power on will help preserve it. for reference -- i had a hdd going bad too... it lasted another ~2 years before completely not working. lol, those last couple years it crawled... maybe 2mb/s instead of 80-150 depending on physical location on disk. more than enough to play videos and music without noticing, so that's what it was used for. since you have a backup folder and a saved game folder -- 2X as likely to get it done too. focus on the root files and the autosave directory -- heck, you have 4X chance of saving your league. maybe you lose some of the 10's of thousand htm/txt files? no big deal there. delete the corrupted ones. Last edited by NoOne; 11-27-2018 at 05:37 PM.

12-05-2018, 11:51 AM	#14
Hotwheelz All Star Starter Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 1,620	I backup to Dropbox and an external drive (other than the one OOTP is installed on) and I think you can still get a free Dropbox account that would work for something that small. __________________ "It's a great day for a ballgame; let's play two." Ernie Banks

11-26-2018, 05:30 PM	#3
Bluenoser Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In The Moment Posts: 14,539	You've invested 4 years in a league and you don't make regular backups Hope you can save it.

11-27-2018, 05:42 PM	#9
markprior22 All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: springfield, illinois Posts: 1,247	Backing up to an external hard drive is something I do all the time. I'm in year 2023 in a game spanning several versions of OOTP. I've played out 95% of my teams games over that time. I generally back up after each game. If you aren't copying all the files and only checking for files that have changed, it doesn't really take that long. I definitely do not want to lose my OOTP stuff.

11-30-2018, 01:42 PM	#10
spacer15415 Major Leagues Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 416	I back up monthly in game time to my hard drive and to a external hard drive. I only lose years of game play ONCE

11-30-2018, 02:04 PM	#11
polydamas All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 604	You can also compress the backup and upload it to Google Drive. That way you can get it even if you lose your external harddrive.

11-30-2018, 06:06 PM	#12
nutt OOTP Roster Team Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 2,268	We will see. Thanks for the all the info provided guys! I'm going to see what can be done this weekend with it. I did buy a new tower on Cyber Monday though!

12-03-2018, 11:59 PM	#13
NoOne Banned Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 7,273 Infractions: 0/1 (3)	salvage parts! the ram likely isn't compatible, but if you have a 2nd drive or anything, don't toss it. even the power supply might be wortwhile to store in a box. sata cables etc... lots of stuff you may re-use. non-integrated gpu? definitely pull that out if not too old. wifi adapter etc... that can save you $50-100 off next purhcase and it's only worth ~$5 in parts. they really squeeze it out of you on the small stuff.

12-05-2018, 07:10 PM	#15
NoOne Banned Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 7,273 Infractions: 0/1 (3)	most email accounts allow for enough gigs to contain an ootp league as an attachment too. defintiely never a need to pay for such a thing. i'd pick out an online storage based on speed... google will give you 10MB/s. (not bits, but Bytes) and as far as i know it's free and you get 15gb? likely already have an account too => even easier. or use google drive with same results and account.

12-06-2018, 04:49 PM	#16
wallewalls All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 774 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	yeah i know the feeling. my laptop that i play OOTP on is starting to go and a couple weeks ago i was having really bad problems with it and was so scared that my ootp game was gonna be gone forever. i have since gotten it fixed and now am so paranoid about these popping up again that i have been backing the game up very frequently. hopefully when i get a new PC next year i dont have to deal with this anymore

12-10-2018, 03:18 PM	#17
nutt OOTP Roster Team Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 2,268	My issue is, I'm going to shell out money to have the hard drive recovered, mainly more for the files and not the game save in itself.

12-18-2018, 05:41 PM	#20
nutt OOTP Roster Team Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 2,268	Docking station recovery has failed. Freezing the drive is the next step. Afterward, who knows.