Rotation of the same player/pitcher

[joehart]

Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

I agree. Done. Will be part of the next update, both on the client and the servers

Thank you for adjusting.

As you close this avenue of potential abuse, have you considered adjusting the length to match a player demotion to minors (10 days).
Not sure if 14 days was chosen to close other potential abuses.

[Markus Heinsohn]

Originally Posted by joehart

Thank you for adjusting.

As you close this avenue of potential abuse, have you considered adjusting the length to match a player demotion to minors (10 days).
Not sure if 14 days was chosen to close other potential abuses.

14 days feels right, as this covers 3 turns in a normal 5-man pitching rotation.

[Kushiel]

Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

I agree. Done. Will be part of the next update, both on the client and the servers

I also want to thank you, Markus, for closing this loophole. I do not care how much money anyone spends or how much they out manage me. But I appreciate you adjusting the stadium exploit and this exploit. These things were sought after advantages that were not in the "spirit of the game" and felt "wrong" to many of us. Exploits of any kind just feel wrong to us old folks

[Markus Heinsohn]

Originally Posted by Kushiel

I also want to thank you, Markus, for closing this loophole. I do not care how much money anyone spends or how much they out manage me. But I appreciate you adjusting the stadium exploit and this exploit. These things were sought after advantages that were not in the "spirit of the game" and felt "wrong" to many of us. Exploits of any kind just feel wrong to us old folks

We want to make sure PT is fun for as many people as possible. So closing loopholes / exploits is very important

[BusterKing]

Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

We want to make sure PT is fun for as many people as possible. So closing loopholes / exploits is very important

Thank you Markus, you showed your great integrity again, very much appreciated.

[Déjà Bru]

Originally Posted by BusterKing

Thank you Markus, you showed your great integrity again, very much appreciated.

And thank you, BusterKing, for sticking to your guns, so to speak. It's often head-scratching to me that people will devise ways to cheat at something as . . don't take this the wrong way . . . unimportant as Perfect Team. I mean, I like PT, but to scrounge up devious ways to game the system so that I end up at the top of a virtual pyramid of a virtual game of cards with no material awards at the end except a boost to my ego would never even occur to me. That it occurs to others is pathetic.

[Maddox]

Originally Posted by Déjà Bru

And thank you, BusterKing, for sticking to your guns, so to speak. It's often head-scratching to me that people will devise ways to cheat at something as . . don't take this the wrong way . . . unimportant as Perfect Team. I mean, I like PT, but to scrounge up devious ways to game the system so that I end up at the top of a virtual pyramid of a virtual game of cards with no material awards at the end except a boost to my ego would never even occur to me. That it occurs to others is pathetic.

As a gamer for almost 40 years, I should no longer be surprised by what gamers will do for some virtual validation but I often am. That is even more the case with a game like this where the actual outcomes of the games are beyond the players control since it is simmed.

[Dogberry99]

Earlier today, I acquired a new and possibly improved Elvis Andrus card and was choosing which one to include on my team, either the Live or the Historic All-Star.

If benching one had made it so I had to wait 14 days prior to activating the other, I would have been annoyed. If this inconvenience serves a greater good, I'm fine with that, but saying that it hurts nobody doesn't seem quite right. That, or I'm misunderstanding the proposed fix.

[Matt Arnold]

Originally Posted by Dogberry99

Earlier today, I acquired a new and possibly improved Elvis Andrus card and was choosing which one to include on my team, either the Live or the Historic All-Star.

If benching one had made it so I had to wait 14 days prior to activating the other, I would have been annoyed. If this inconvenience serves a greater good, I'm fine with that, but saying that it hurts nobody doesn't seem quite right. That, or I'm misunderstanding the proposed fix.

It should only impact the same card. So the live and historic versions are separate cards and should not be affected by this fix.

[zrog2000]

Originally Posted by Dogberry99

Earlier today, I acquired a new and possibly improved Elvis Andrus card and was choosing which one to include on my team, either the Live or the Historic All-Star.

If benching one had made it so I had to wait 14 days prior to activating the other, I would have been annoyed. If this inconvenience serves a greater good, I'm fine with that, but saying that it hurts nobody doesn't seem quite right. That, or I'm misunderstanding the proposed fix.

Very good point. I just replaced a 69 David Cone with a 93 David Cone and it would have sucked to have to wait 14 days to do it.

[Déjà Bru]

Originally Posted by Matt Arnold

It should only impact the same card. So the live and historic versions are separate cards and should not be affected by this fix.

You guys are doing a good job of sorting through these nuances and coming up with good decisions.

[Josquin]

Originally Posted by Déjà Bru

And thank you, BusterKing, for sticking to your guns, so to speak. It's often head-scratching to me that people will devise ways to cheat at something as . . don't take this the wrong way . . . unimportant as Perfect Team. I mean, I like PT, but to scrounge up devious ways to game the system so that I end up at the top of a virtual pyramid of a virtual game of cards with no material awards at the end except a boost to my ego would never even occur to me. That it occurs to others is pathetic.

Some people do it for the intellectual challenge. My day job is cybersecurity, where that kind of stuff is routine. Nothing surprises me anymore.

[joehart]

Originally Posted by Josquin

Some people do it for the intellectual challenge. My day job is cybersecurity, where that kind of stuff is routine. Nothing surprises me anymore.

I don't think we have to worry about the people that come to the forum to report issues. For the most part, they are all here to make this a better product.

I am more concerned about the ones that enjoy taking apart the executables, focus on the OOTP server side, credit card theft, or focus on the support infrastructure (malicious transactions/refunds), …

My hope is that OOTP will continue to stay under the radar and not push the DEV team into a constant costly back-and-forth battle that you get to deal with in your job role.