Please explain player ratings system!!

[genuvar]

Originally Posted by Lukas Berger

Generally though, yeah, it's absolutely best not to rely on overall, because even if all the overalls were absolutely using the same scale in every way, like in regular OOTP, it would still be a pretty flawed way to evaluate players, because of how much the individual ratings matter and because the overall can sometimes create an appearance of there being a much bigger gap between players than there actually is.

In game terms, there's probably only a minor difference, if any discernible difference at all, between most guys rated say 82 overall and most guys rated 87 overall. Or whatever. Pick your own number gap

But because of how our brains work as humans, we process a gap like that as being much more important than it is in the reality of the scale used in-game.

Thing is, I don't know how we could ever change that, other than by scrapping the overalls completely, which I don't think would go over well at all with most players

And overall does still have its uses, even with its limitations. But it's best to be aware that it is only a shorthand that's limited at best, and to plan your team and lineups while taking that into account.

Scrapping overalls completely sounds like a great idea to me (though I may be on my own with this). Allows you to generate your own idea of what the overall is and would get rid of this whole idea that you just need to gather up all the high rated cards and try to field a team.

[Kushiel]

Originally Posted by genuvar

Scrapping overalls completely sounds like a great idea to me (though I may be on my own with this). Allows you to generate your own idea of what the overall is and would get rid of this whole idea that you just need to gather up all the high rated cards and try to field a team.

I disagree because the OVR gives casual players a"general idea" while the more serious players delve into the intricacies of the game. Remember the number of people that post here is very small compared to the number of players.

[genuvar]

Originally Posted by Kushiel

I disagree because the OVR gives casual players a"general idea" while the more serious players delve into the intricacies of the game. Remember the number of people that post here is very small compared to the number of players.

I get that. Maybe use the star ratings that are used in the single player standard game. I feel like that system leaves more to interpretation then numbers because with numbers you look at it and most will say that an 87 must be better than an 82. However with the stars those guys are probably the same or at most a half star different.

[Orcin]

Originally Posted by genuvar

I feel like that system leaves more to interpretation then numbers because with numbers you look at it and most will say that an 87 must be better than an 82.

Good.

[Lukas Berger]

Originally Posted by One Post Wonder

I don't agree with the historical player ratings as a rule, but I understand that the given ratings for those players are what is best for the game. And they do tend to be 'different' and be useful in some way even if they're not rated like they should be.

Fixed the catching ratings for Piazza to something more reasonable. What he had was just what the game auto-generates based off his defensive stats

[ASURay]

Originally Posted by Lukas Berger

They're never meant as anything more than a very rough guide though, either in regular OOTP or in PT.

Yet I can't sort by anything rating other than OVR when looking through the auction house.

[One Post Wonder]

Originally Posted by Lukas Berger

Fixed the catching ratings for Piazza to something more reasonable. What he had was just what the game auto-generates based off his defensive stats

Wow, I wasn't expecting that. I know you guys aren't generally in the business of changing ratings manually (and nor should you be). Thank you.

I wonder why 80's and 90's catchers came off so well? Maybe for Piazza, teams weren't stealing much in the steroid era. And maybe in the 80's, a low success rate for stolen bases was considered to be OK since managers generally hadn't done the math yet. Regardless, I didn't think the catcher statistics would look that different between then and now.

[Whoofe]

I have 2 bronze players that for the first 2 seasons are routinely at the top end of WAR on my team, over several silver and a couple gold players

[vyshka]

Does anyone know how it comes up with individual pitch ratings? Is that something that is tracked in the Lahman database, or how is it decided what pitches a pitcher knows and the rating for that pitch?

[Markus Heinsohn]

Originally Posted by vyshka

Does anyone know how it comes up with individual pitch ratings? Is that something that is tracked in the Lahman database, or how is it decided what pitches a pitcher knows and the rating for that pitch?

We have not used the real Lahman DB for years now, ours is a custom version which has additional info, including pitch repertoire for many players.

[Northernsky]

I was surprised that CC Sabathia is only 63 (bronze) level and not higher.