What constitutes a rookie in OOTP19

rink23 · 11-12-2018, 07:32 AM

I am in the first season of a fictional league using current MLB players.
My team features Alex Bregman (3B) and Rhys Hoskins (1B) and both have really struggled though the first two weeks of the season.
In fact, Hoskins has yet to get a hit and is like 0 for 39.
I already am not happy with my hitting coach (John Mabry), could a hitting coach who is good with rookies maybe spur them toward a better performance.
Or does rookies in OOTP mean young players with almost no MLB experience.

NoOne · 11-12-2018, 03:26 PM

pretty sure it follows RL rules.. i don't know the threshold off the top of my head, though for being a RoY candidate.

service time is easy: accumulate 172days on active roster and get a year of service time. you cannot accumulate more than 1 year of svc time in a calendar year.

typically ~184days in a season for 162g. miss 13 days and you cannot accumulate a full year of service time. in ootp, you can change the schedule as well as days required for 1 year... assumes you left that to default.

awards stuff:
as long as they have less than ~80? days on active roster, they are a "rookie"? i believe this stuff is slightly different rule? or, i hope it is different. someone who has 95% of a season under their belt shouldn't be compared to a real first-year rookie.

these are both reference material you can find on google.

bwburke94 · 11-12-2018, 09:12 PM

In real life, if a player has >130 AB, >50 IP, or >45 service days (excluding service days gained after roster expansion), they have exhausted their rookie status.

Not sure how OOTP handles the last of those, because they don't track rookie eligibility in service days.

actionjackson · 11-20-2018, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoOne

pretty sure it follows RL rules.. i don't know the threshold off the top of my head, though for being a RoY candidate.

service time is easy: accumulate 172days on active roster and get a year of service time. you cannot accumulate more than 1 year of svc time in a calendar year.

typically ~184days in a season for 162g. miss 13 days and you cannot accumulate a full year of service time. in ootp, you can change the schedule as well as days required for 1 year... assumes you left that to default.

awards stuff:
as long as they have less than ~80? days on active roster, they are a "rookie"? i believe this stuff is slightly different rule? or, i hope it is different. someone who has 95% of a season under their belt shouldn't be compared to a real first-year rookie.

these are both reference material you can find on google.

It's actually less than 45 days of service time/130 AB/50 IP. OOTP trips on the service time, but gets the AB/IP thresholds correct. I've seen guys who finish a season with 2 years 0 days of service time be considered rookies. In this case, I disregard them for awards. Sometimes the other "writers" that are voting keep them out of the top three, and other times not so much. I'd like to see the service time threshold implemented correctly, so the wrong guys don't take the award, but it's probably not at the top of the priority list right now.

EDIT: And bwburke94 beats me to the punch. Oh well.

bwburke94 · 11-20-2018, 06:30 PM

The 130/50 is a "less than or equal to" case, as can be evidenced by Scott Rolen having exactly 130 ABs before his rookie year.

(He had a plate appearance while on 130, and suffered a season-ending injury on a HBP, preserving his rookie status for the following year.)

11-12-2018, 07:32 AM	#1
rink23 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 24,238	What constitutes a rookie in OOTP19 I am in the first season of a fictional league using current MLB players. My team features Alex Bregman (3B) and Rhys Hoskins (1B) and both have really struggled though the first two weeks of the season. In fact, Hoskins has yet to get a hit and is like 0 for 39. I already am not happy with my hitting coach (John Mabry), could a hitting coach who is good with rookies maybe spur them toward a better performance. Or does rookies in OOTP mean young players with almost no MLB experience.

11-12-2018, 03:26 PM	#2
NoOne Banned Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 7,273 Infractions: 0/1 (3)	pretty sure it follows RL rules.. i don't know the threshold off the top of my head, though for being a RoY candidate. service time is easy: accumulate 172days on active roster and get a year of service time. you cannot accumulate more than 1 year of svc time in a calendar year. typically ~184days in a season for 162g. miss 13 days and you cannot accumulate a full year of service time. in ootp, you can change the schedule as well as days required for 1 year... assumes you left that to default. awards stuff: as long as they have less than ~80? days on active roster, they are a "rookie"? i believe this stuff is slightly different rule? or, i hope it is different. someone who has 95% of a season under their belt shouldn't be compared to a real first-year rookie. these are both reference material you can find on google. Last edited by NoOne; 11-12-2018 at 03:28 PM.

11-12-2018, 09:12 PM	#3
bwburke94 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Belchertown, MA, USA Posts: 4,522	In real life, if a player has >130 AB, >50 IP, or >45 service days (excluding service days gained after roster expansion), they have exhausted their rookie status. Not sure how OOTP handles the last of those, because they don't track rookie eligibility in service days.

11-20-2018, 06:30 PM	#5
bwburke94 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Belchertown, MA, USA Posts: 4,522	The 130/50 is a "less than or equal to" case, as can be evidenced by Scott Rolen having exactly 130 ABs before his rookie year. (He had a plate appearance while on 130, and suffered a season-ending injury on a HBP, preserving his rookie status for the following year.)