Realistic Promotion Relegation

sprague · 07-23-2018, 08:02 AM

Hey guys,
Really want to play a MLB league as a promotion-relegation. Trouble is that as I have checked around for the standard setups I find that would not be very realistic.
I have made a few ideas for the setup, but wondering if you guys also have a few suggestions that could help what I am setting up.

Finances
Generally it states to make each lower league 50% of the league salary. But in a modern set up that would mean Div 1 top player would be 10 milll, a Div 2 top player 5 mil, even in Div 3 a top player in what is now A ball would make 2 mill. That just seems way to far fetched. Should the first league be 25% of MLB as a step and then 50% after that? Just how much for example are the salaries in the English first div below premier league. How low are the salary comparasin.

Contracts
In a real Pro-rel all lower league players would basically be under 1 year contracts, so they can move up as soon as they are ready, or teams can not sign them after a bad year. The top league might sign a guy more long term but that would be it. Even then there would be only 1 year entry, no arbitration, or maybe free agent after 3 years i was thinking.

Reserve team
In real life you would not have a reserve roster, because the extra players wouldn\t be playing. You might carry 28 and if more got hurt than that you would go buy them from a lower league. Too many good players would be on the RR not playing.

To mimic that in ootp I will have a 28 man roster and keep releasing the RR every year. only 28 guys, but will have injuries set real low and have no disabled list. An injured guy just sits there till he gets healthy.

Draft
There would be no draft of course. When players left school they would go play at the highest level they could get a good wage for. once a player in Div 1 got good enough, a top team would buy them up. But i do like a sort of draft idea.
So what I will do here is to create new players as free agents, or I might have to have a feeder league if the created players are not enough. Then the MLB teams draft a 1st round. They own a player in the majors. Say for example the Red sox might have drafted betamendi. Ok when he finally signs for an MLB team, the sox will have 3 years to demand "actually he is our property and we want him." I would then force a trade to get the drafted player to the team that owns his rights. Of course after 3 years he is a free agent if they don't pony up the cash. It will mean keeping a chart and checking it every so often, but I think the reasism is worth it.
If a team drops down, they keep ownership of that player in the lower level, but the team that has gone up gets his rights in the upper level.
Interesting

Parks
When a team moves up I will increase stadium capacity automatically by maybe 10 or 20 % to reflect a seat building upgrade. not a big jump but enough

What am I missing?

battists · 07-23-2018, 08:45 AM

I think you have to be careful. What I mean is, OOTP has certain functionality. Although it now has promotion/relegation, The entire engine is still coded around contracts and free agency, etc., the way it currently works.

I think the farther you try to stray from that, the less likely the game is to do what you want it to, and the more manual work you’re going to create for yourself.

I think you’re heading in that direction.

At the same time, try whatever you want! I would just recommend that you make careful back ups and keep several! Good luck!

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07-23-2018, 08:02 AM	#1
sprague All Star Starter Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 1,947	Realistic Promotion Relegation Hey guys, Really want to play a MLB league as a promotion-relegation. Trouble is that as I have checked around for the standard setups I find that would not be very realistic. I have made a few ideas for the setup, but wondering if you guys also have a few suggestions that could help what I am setting up. Finances Generally it states to make each lower league 50% of the league salary. But in a modern set up that would mean Div 1 top player would be 10 milll, a Div 2 top player 5 mil, even in Div 3 a top player in what is now A ball would make 2 mill. That just seems way to far fetched. Should the first league be 25% of MLB as a step and then 50% after that? Just how much for example are the salaries in the English first div below premier league. How low are the salary comparasin. Contracts In a real Pro-rel all lower league players would basically be under 1 year contracts, so they can move up as soon as they are ready, or teams can not sign them after a bad year. The top league might sign a guy more long term but that would be it. Even then there would be only 1 year entry, no arbitration, or maybe free agent after 3 years i was thinking. Reserve team In real life you would not have a reserve roster, because the extra players wouldn\t be playing. You might carry 28 and if more got hurt than that you would go buy them from a lower league. Too many good players would be on the RR not playing. To mimic that in ootp I will have a 28 man roster and keep releasing the RR every year. only 28 guys, but will have injuries set real low and have no disabled list. An injured guy just sits there till he gets healthy. Draft There would be no draft of course. When players left school they would go play at the highest level they could get a good wage for. once a player in Div 1 got good enough, a top team would buy them up. But i do like a sort of draft idea. So what I will do here is to create new players as free agents, or I might have to have a feeder league if the created players are not enough. Then the MLB teams draft a 1st round. They own a player in the majors. Say for example the Red sox might have drafted betamendi. Ok when he finally signs for an MLB team, the sox will have 3 years to demand "actually he is our property and we want him." I would then force a trade to get the drafted player to the team that owns his rights. Of course after 3 years he is a free agent if they don't pony up the cash. It will mean keeping a chart and checking it every so often, but I think the reasism is worth it. If a team drops down, they keep ownership of that player in the lower level, but the team that has gone up gets his rights in the upper level. Interesting Parks When a team moves up I will increase stadium capacity automatically by maybe 10 or 20 % to reflect a seat building upgrade. not a big jump but enough What am I missing?

07-23-2018, 08:45 AM	#2
battists Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 18,506	I think you have to be careful. What I mean is, OOTP has certain functionality. Although it now has promotion/relegation, The entire engine is still coded around contracts and free agency, etc., the way it currently works. I think the farther you try to stray from that, the less likely the game is to do what you want it to, and the more manual work you’re going to create for yourself. I think you’re heading in that direction. At the same time, try whatever you want! I would just recommend that you make careful back ups and keep several! Good luck! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Come check out my dynasty report, Funky Times!