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Hall Of Famer
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Hall of Famers MLB Real versus OOTP
There are certain discrepancies between the listing of HoF'ers in OOTP and the real-world history of MLB, at least through OOTP 18, for sure.
In this thread, I will note them, as best as I can, and others may do so as well, of course. These discrepancies may be because the game only seems to recognize WAR as the only determinant of which team a player may get inducted for, IIRC. If so, that shouldn't necessarily be the case here, I think. For starters, both Sutter and Herzog, for instance, represent the Cardinals in the real Hall, not the Cubs or Orioles, respectively, as OOTP currently seems to list them both in the Hall. I'm sure that there are others also listed under the wrong teams in OOTP, and as I find them, I will list them below. Next time I start another game using a suitable quickstart, or play from 2017, I'll try to note possible errors of this nature, then list them here. Even if OOTP will no longer update or patch version 18, they could hopefully use this info to patch 19, and include relevant corrections for future versions of OOTP Baseball games, I'm sure, if they so chose. CD out. |
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The following people seem to have the wrong caps for them in OOTP's version of the Hall of Fame. I will list them with their main RL franchise and/or RL HoF team, then with OOTP's HoF team assignment, so you can see where there may be need for later editing of the applicable historical HoF'er listings for either quickstarts or standard games:
Walter Alston's main team was the Dodgers, not the Cardinals as OOTP seems to have listed him in the game. He should have a Dodgers-related cap, not a Cardinal one. Sparky Anderson's RL Hall plaque has a Reds cap, while in OOTP he's incorrectly listed as a representative of the Phillies, and his RL main team seems to be the Tigers. Wade Boggs was inducted in the RL Hall as a Devil Ray, but OOTP has him incorrectly listed as a representative of the Red Sox. Dan Brouthers's main team in the RL Hall evidently was the Buffalo Bisons, but OOTP has him listed under the Dodgers franchise in the Hall, also incorrectly, it seems. Jim Bunning's main team was the Tigers, but he went in the RL Hall as a representative of the Phillies, and OOTP has him listed under the Tigers Willard Brown's main team was the Kansas City Monarchs, but OOTP lists him as a member of the Browns, it seems. Mickey Cochrane's main team was the Athletics, though he went in the RL Hall as a Tiger, and OOTP lists him as a member of the Athletics. Charlie (Charles) Comiskey's main team was the Chicago White Sox, yet OOTP lists him as a member of the Reds, incorrectly. Jocko Conlan mainly was an umpire during his baseball career, so he should not be listed under the White Sox for OOTP's standard versions of the Hall of Fame, it seems to me here, in truth. Nor should he have a cap logo, unless, of course, it related to the league or leagues in which he umpired, most definitely, in OOTP. Bobby Cox went into the RL Hall as a representative of the Braves, but OOTP has him listed as a Yankee. Kiki Cuyler went into the RL Hall as a Tiger, I believe, not a Cub as OOTP currently has him listed, as of version 18, at least Leo Durocher's main team was the Dodgers, but OOTP has him listed under the Cardinals, likely in error. Rick Ferrell's main team was the Red Sox, not the Browns as OOTP currently seems to have him listed for Hall of Fame inductees, it seems to me. Carlton Fisk's main team was the White Sox, quite possibly, but his RL HoF team is the Red Sox, it seems. Elmer Flick should have a Naps cap on his HoF plaque in-game, for that would match his RL cap in the RL HoF, it seems. Ned Hanlon should have a cap that represents the NL version of the Baltimore Orioles in the game, not a Pirates cap or induction team, evidently, for that seems to be his main RL team. Whitey Herzog should have a Cardinals cap, not a Baltimore Orioles one, for his RL HoF plaque has a Cardinals cap logo. Miller Huggins should have a New York Yankees cap instead of a Cardinals one for the in-game HoF, for his main team was the Yankees, not the Cardinals. Catfish Hunter should not have a logo on his cap, not even an Athletics-related one, for his RL Hall plaque does not show a RL cap logo. Monte Irvin was inducted as a representative of the Newark Eagles, it seems, not as a Giant, as OOTP seems to list him in the HoF now. He should have a Newark logo on his plaque if any at all, if possible. Reggie Jackson's RL HoF plaque shows a Yankees cap logo, not an Athletics one as OOTP does, evidently. Randy Johnson entered the RL Hall of Fame as an Arizona Diamondback, not as a Mariner, as OOTP currently seems to have him for the Hall of Fame. Joe Kelley should be listed under the Baltimore Orioles of the NL, if possible, not as a representative of the Cincinnati Reds as OOTP currently seems to list him. Tommy Lasorda's main RL team was/is the Dodgers, and he should be listed under them, not under the Athletics as OOTP currently has him, it seems. Al Lopez's RL HoF plaque has a Cleveland Indians logo on it, even though his main RL team seems to have been the White Sox, and OOTP currently lists him as a representative of the Dodgers, which probably shouldn't be the case at all here. Connie Mack's main RL team was the Athletics, not the Pirates as OOTP currently lists him in terms of induction teams for the Hall of Fame. He should be listed under the Athletics, then, because of that fact, if possible. Greg Maddux's main RL team was apparently the Braves, but his RL HoF cap has no logo on it, and yet OOTP lists him under the Braves when it possibly shouldn't, at least when it comes to cap logos on HoF plaques. Hank O'Day was inducted as an umpire, not as a member of the Giants as OOTP now has him listed, it seems. He too shouldn't be listed under any team, and his cap should also be lacking a logo unless it's a league logo, as a matter of fact, in OOTP. Satchel Paige's main team was the Kansas City Monarchs, and he should not be listed under the Orioles or Browns, most likely, as a result in any OOTP standard game's HoF, at least, I think. He didn't play enough in MLB in RL, unfortunately, for reasons I'm sure we all know of quite well by now, of course. Herb Pennock's main RL team was the Yankees, even though his RL induction team was the Red Sox, and OOTP currently has him listed under the Yankees. Branch Rickey had no primary RL induction team, so he should not only not be listed under the Browns, but also should have no actual cap logo for himself here. Frank Robinson's main RL team was the Reds, but he went into the Hall as an Oriole, not as a Red, and OOTP currently lists his induction team as the Reds, by the way. Wilbert Robinson's main teams were the National League's Dodgers and Orioles, but OOTP currently lists him erroneously as a Cardinal HoF'er. He didn't represent the Cardinals in the Hall once elected and inducted into it. Nolan Ryan's RL Hall plaque has a Rangers logo on it, even though it seems his main RL teams were the Astros and the Angels. OOTP currently lists him as an Angel for MLB's Hal of Fame, it seems, when he should be listed under the Rangers, evidently. Billy Southworth's main RL team was the Cardinals, yet OOTP currently lists him by mistake under the Pirates, it seems. Casey Stengel's main RL team was the Yankees, but OOTP currently has him listed under the Dodgers, also likely in error here. Bruce Sutter's RL Hall of Fame induction team was the Cardinals, but OOTP currently has him listed as being a Cubs inductee into the Hall, when he should be listed otherwise, and most specifically as a Cardinal. Deacon White's primary RL team was evidently the Buffalo Bisons, but he is currently listed under the Braves franchise for the Hall of Fame, when he probably shouldn't be here at all. Hoyt Wilhelm's main RL team was the White Sox, but he has a Giants logo on his HoF plaque, not a White Sox one, as OOTP seems to have it for him now. Dick Williams's main RL team was the Expos, apparently, and his RL plaque has him wearing an Athletics-related cap logo, but OOTP has him listed under the Orioles, it seems to me here. Dave Winfield went into the RL Hall as a Padre, not as a Yankee, as OOTP currently has him listed in-game. Harry Wright's main RL team may have been the Philadelphia Quakers/Phillies, but OOTP seems to list him now under what is now the Braves franchise. These are the possible errors I may have seen in OOTP's usual standard listings of historical Halls of Fame members, at the very least, if I didn't see any other relevant and/or related errors as well, up to this point in time. Perhaps OOTP might be wise to update their standard Hall of Fame listings for 19 and/or future versions of OOTP Baseball, periodically, at least partly based on this information I've just mentioned here? Just a few thoughts, at least, here, that's all. CD out. |
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Also, both Bruce Sutter and Tom Herr were both from Lancaster, PENNSYLVANIA, not Lancaster, CALIFORNIA, at least, as OOTP currently has them listed in relation to their birthplaces/hometowns in the game. Just so you know this here, folks. CD out.
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Sorry to bump a somewhat old thread, but I believe those who were inducted as managers go in with the team they played with. Guessing the game can't decipher that. Also, Wade Boggs went in as a member of the Red Sox
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Incorrect, Boggs went in as a Devil Ray, it seems, based on his plaque, if memory serves. CD out.
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Although he did most of his playing with the Red Sox, I believe his Tampa Bay contract, although I could be wrong about this, required him to go in as a Devil Ray, if at all possible. Hence the fact that he has a Tampa Bay cap on his plaque, IIRC. CD out.
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No, he has a Red Sox cap in it: https://baseballhall.org/hall-of-famers/boggs-wade
You're right, it did say that in his contract. But it was due to that that the Hall decided to no longer allow players to choose because of players accepting money. |
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