International scouting

Obechkinsbuddy · 04-03-2018, 07:48 PM

Anybody have issues or have advice on international players. I’ve signed the top guy 5 star potential repeatedly and then when they turn 19-20 they are like 2 star guys. Do you sign more cheaper middle range guys and snag 3-4 or go after the 5 star higher dollar ones. Just struggling to draft/international sign and build my farm (scout is excellent across the board)

NoOne · 04-03-2018, 09:50 PM

this is normal.. it's similar to an 18 y.o. high school draft pick vs college kid.. except you are likely signing even younger less predictable players from a nation that doesn't have the same level of competition in it's little league-type associations. etc etc etc..

many factors why a 16-18year old from a small country is even more wildy unpredictable than amatuers scouted and studied in a much larger system with more competition.

a top 1-10 pick is barely a 50/50 proposition... and thats the ten best prospects, supposedly. most amatuers do not fit this definition.

best method -- sign the highly rated when you have a good feeling, but multiple signees might provide a greater output... you might get less studes, but more viable choices.

proof of concept: turn on commisioner mode, and step through those players on the IAFA list and see how inaccurate it all is... out of ~20 pitchers maybe 1/4th, relative to potential ratings, can even play in the mlb let alone have a long career. nearly all will have a 1/200 movement and or control -- or very low etc that cannot survive in the mlb, ever.

there's more viable batters, as of ootp18 proportions, but most of them are barely 50% of scale and therefore barely ~replacement level most of the time.

all this means is that it isn't your fault these players didn't develop.. they couldn't because the potentials you saw were all a lie.

even max out international scouting and it won't change much... the potentials you see wil weakly correlate to teh actual potentials you see in the editor with commissioner mode on.

keep pluggingn away. my suggesiton is to altenatively blow out hte 5M cap and accept the penalty in the following year. .you'll sign as many as you can under the 5M cap.. flip the probabities with quantity. then the following year you likely can't sign many, if at all.. maybe a few under the penalized cap that is enforced for overspending the previous year... in those cases you have to wait a day or two for demands to drop, then you might find a couple stragglers in those off years.

04-03-2018, 07:48 PM	#1
Obechkinsbuddy Minors (Double A) Join Date: Apr 2018 Posts: 139	International scouting Anybody have issues or have advice on international players. I’ve signed the top guy 5 star potential repeatedly and then when they turn 19-20 they are like 2 star guys. Do you sign more cheaper middle range guys and snag 3-4 or go after the 5 star higher dollar ones. Just struggling to draft/international sign and build my farm (scout is excellent across the board)

04-03-2018, 09:50 PM	#2
NoOne Banned Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 7,273 Infractions: 0/1 (3)	this is normal.. it's similar to an 18 y.o. high school draft pick vs college kid.. except you are likely signing even younger less predictable players from a nation that doesn't have the same level of competition in it's little league-type associations. etc etc etc.. many factors why a 16-18year old from a small country is even more wildy unpredictable than amatuers scouted and studied in a much larger system with more competition. a top 1-10 pick is barely a 50/50 proposition... and thats the ten best prospects, supposedly. most amatuers do not fit this definition. best method -- sign the highly rated when you have a good feeling, but multiple signees might provide a greater output... you might get less studes, but more viable choices. proof of concept: turn on commisioner mode, and step through those players on the IAFA list and see how inaccurate it all is... out of ~20 pitchers maybe 1/4th, relative to potential ratings, can even play in the mlb let alone have a long career. nearly all will have a 1/200 movement and or control -- or very low etc that cannot survive in the mlb, ever. there's more viable batters, as of ootp18 proportions, but most of them are barely 50% of scale and therefore barely ~replacement level most of the time. all this means is that it isn't your fault these players didn't develop.. they couldn't because the potentials you saw were all a lie. even max out international scouting and it won't change much... the potentials you see wil weakly correlate to teh actual potentials you see in the editor with commissioner mode on. keep pluggingn away. my suggesiton is to altenatively blow out hte 5M cap and accept the penalty in the following year. .you'll sign as many as you can under the 5M cap.. flip the probabities with quantity. then the following year you likely can't sign many, if at all.. maybe a few under the penalized cap that is enforced for overspending the previous year... in those cases you have to wait a day or two for demands to drop, then you might find a couple stragglers in those off years. Last edited by NoOne; 04-03-2018 at 09:58 PM.