My New Market Sizes for MLB Quickstart

PSUColonel · 11-15-2017, 09:42 AM

11: Yankees

10: Dodgers, Cubs

9: Mets, Phillies, Angels, Nats, Rangers, Giants, Red Sox

8: Cardinals, Astros, Jays

7: Braves, Mariners, Tigers

6: White Sox, D-Backs

5: Twins, Orioles, Rockies Pirates

4: Padres, Miami, Indians, Royals, Reds, Brewers

3. A’s, Rays

If you apply these numbers, the Avg. team revenue comes out to about $170.5 million.

NoOne · 11-15-2017, 12:14 PM

a bit top heavy?

median is high, average is high. skewed high. not saying it is a problem in any way. but, if you see results you don't like that may be the reason... it may also be the cause of results that you like...

should cause higher max salaries due to greater % chance that more teams will be able to get involved.

things like that. just exrapolate on basic supply/demand concepts and you can guess what is to come very accurately.

do you let owner control budgets? that equates to an ~average figure that should be deducted from taht estimated Revenue. i never use it, so i can't guess how much it reduces league-wide average payroll. probably not too significant, but 5-10M? sounds right.

as a point of comparison -- i have a league that is ~5 market size average and median. ~180M average profit (from finances report, not estimate in settings)

~125M is average payroll.

i expected higher compared to previous years. it ebbs and flows quite a bit.

if you average less, and salaries go higher than ~30M it's very likekly due to the different distribution of market sizes in our leagues.

i'm curious as to the resulting differences in 2 known situations -- one context i rarely play in. very good info for future if you happen to plop some info in a reply at some pointin future.

PSUColonel · 11-15-2017, 03:19 PM

I do allow owners to control budgets, yes. I was under the impression things should be fine as long as the average revenue was around $170M??

It is a little top heavy, and no, I am not sure what will happen.

My old (last year) market sizes was this:

11 Yankees

10

9 dodgers, red sox, cubs, giants

8 mets, Angels, Phillies, nats, Rangers, cardinals

7 braves, astros, mariners, jays

6 Tigers,, white sox, d-backs

5 twins orioles,, rockies, pirates

4 Padres, Marlins, indinas, royals, reds, brewers

3 a’s, rays,

PSUColonel · 11-15-2017, 03:41 PM

I just plugged in last year's Market sizes, and it comes out $168.3M

This doesn't seem bad either...maybe all I really need is a tweak or two, as opposed to what I did. Perhaps mostly keep last year's version, and just move a team or two up somewhere, but I am not sure where.

PSUColonel · 11-15-2017, 06:05 PM

I could move the Rockies up to 6, and the Tigers up to 7 maybe

11-15-2017, 09:42 AM	#1
PSUColonel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 13,139	My New Market Sizes for MLB Quickstart 11: Yankees 10: Dodgers, Cubs 9: Mets, Phillies, Angels, Nats, Rangers, Giants, Red Sox 8: Cardinals, Astros, Jays 7: Braves, Mariners, Tigers 6: White Sox, D-Backs 5: Twins, Orioles, Rockies Pirates 4: Padres, Miami, Indians, Royals, Reds, Brewers 3. A’s, Rays If you apply these numbers, the Avg. team revenue comes out to about $170.5 million.

11-15-2017, 12:14 PM	#2
NoOne Banned Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 7,273 Infractions: 0/1 (3)	a bit top heavy? median is high, average is high. skewed high. not saying it is a problem in any way. but, if you see results you don't like that may be the reason... it may also be the cause of results that you like... should cause higher max salaries due to greater % chance that more teams will be able to get involved. things like that. just exrapolate on basic supply/demand concepts and you can guess what is to come very accurately. do you let owner control budgets? that equates to an ~average figure that should be deducted from taht estimated Revenue. i never use it, so i can't guess how much it reduces league-wide average payroll. probably not too significant, but 5-10M? sounds right. as a point of comparison -- i have a league that is ~5 market size average and median. ~180M average profit (from finances report, not estimate in settings) ~125M is average payroll. i expected higher compared to previous years. it ebbs and flows quite a bit. if you average less, and salaries go higher than ~30M it's very likekly due to the different distribution of market sizes in our leagues. i'm curious as to the resulting differences in 2 known situations -- one context i rarely play in. very good info for future if you happen to plop some info in a reply at some pointin future.

11-15-2017, 03:19 PM	#3
PSUColonel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 13,139	I do allow owners to control budgets, yes. I was under the impression things should be fine as long as the average revenue was around $170M?? It is a little top heavy, and no, I am not sure what will happen. My old (last year) market sizes was this: 11 Yankees 10 9 dodgers, red sox, cubs, giants 8 mets, Angels, Phillies, nats, Rangers, cardinals 7 braves, astros, mariners, jays 6 Tigers,, white sox, d-backs 5 twins orioles,, rockies, pirates 4 Padres, Marlins, indinas, royals, reds, brewers 3 a’s, rays,

11-15-2017, 03:41 PM	#4
PSUColonel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 13,139	I just plugged in last year's Market sizes, and it comes out $168.3M This doesn't seem bad either...maybe all I really need is a tweak or two, as opposed to what I did. Perhaps mostly keep last year's version, and just move a team or two up somewhere, but I am not sure where.

11-15-2017, 06:05 PM	#5
PSUColonel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 13,139	I could move the Rockies up to 6, and the Tigers up to 7 maybe