Pitch Count Question

cowell547 · 09-18-2017, 01:55 PM

I have noticed when I go to the game log for pitchers, that some long a ago played game will say that he threw over 200 pitches. I seldom let a pitcher go over 125, is there a reason for this discrepancy. Thanks.

windowss · 09-18-2017, 11:21 PM

maybe

cowell547 · 09-23-2017, 12:49 PM

Thanks, maybe covers a lot of ground. Do you know any specifics? Hate to ruin pitchers accidentally.

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micropterus58 · 09-23-2017, 01:28 PM

In modern baseball starting pitchers rarely throw more than 125 pitches. This depends on the pitcher and the game situation. During the 19th century and early 20th century pitchers threw many more pitches and had many more innings pitched and complete games. Today it's a different strategy. Go to a site like www.baseball-reference.com and look at the yearly and career stats for the top pitchers. There are too many reasons for the strategy change for me to reply in a short post. Maybe someone else has an hour or two to give a detailed explanation. LOL

cowell547 · 09-27-2017, 12:06 AM

Thanks, I probably explained wrong. This will appear in a pitchers game log. I usually pull a pitcher on a 120 pich count or less. Later when I look at his season log a 200 number will appear. I don't know why this happens.

BIG17EASY · 09-28-2017, 02:33 PM

Can you access the box score for that game? If so, what does it say for the pitch count?

cowell547 · 10-10-2017, 03:19 PM

Thanks for the suggestion, I now have my answer. When I want to hit a batter during a game with a lot of HBP, I bring my first baseman to the mound to do that. Hate to get pitchers suspended.

I then replace him with the pitcher. Hence the pitchers double pitch count as he appears twice in the box score. Really appreciate your answer. wonder if that does effect them, I never have them tire early next game. They did appear worse for wear in my world Series, though. Again, thanks.

NoOne · 10-13-2017, 10:44 PM

you may want to becarefule with that method.

overuse is a real thing for a player... 200pitches with modern SP/rotation settings is probably in that realm. are they "100% after 5 days? (or whatver your SP stamina settings dictate: "very low" is 5 days, "low" is sometimes ~4 for high stamina etc etc)

if they aren't 100% after the 'right' number fo days, "200+" pitches is not asthetic, even though they may not throw that many.

rpriske · 10-19-2017, 12:48 PM

I was trying to picture that.

How long would the league suspend the manager if he switched the firstbaseman to the mound in order to hit a batter.

"It just got away from me! Honest!"

"Every time?"

09-18-2017, 01:55 PM	#1
cowell547 Bat Boy Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 5	Pitch Count Question I have noticed when I go to the game log for pitchers, that some long a ago played game will say that he threw over 200 pitches. I seldom let a pitcher go over 125, is there a reason for this discrepancy. Thanks.

09-23-2017, 12:49 PM	#3
cowell547 Bat Boy Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 5	Pich Counts Thanks, maybe covers a lot of ground. Do you know any specifics? Hate to ruin pitchers accidentally. .

09-27-2017, 12:06 AM	#5
cowell547 Bat Boy Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 5	Pitch Count Thanks, I probably explained wrong. This will appear in a pitchers game log. I usually pull a pitcher on a 120 pich count or less. Later when I look at his season log a 200 number will appear. I don't know why this happens.

10-10-2017, 03:19 PM	#7
cowell547 Bat Boy Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 5	Pitch count Thanks for the suggestion, I now have my answer. When I want to hit a batter during a game with a lot of HBP, I bring my first baseman to the mound to do that. Hate to get pitchers suspended. I then replace him with the pitcher. Hence the pitchers double pitch count as he appears twice in the box score. Really appreciate your answer. wonder if that does effect them, I never have them tire early next game. They did appear worse for wear in my world Series, though. Again, thanks.

10-13-2017, 10:44 PM	#8
NoOne Banned Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 7,273 Infractions: 0/1 (3)	you may want to becarefule with that method. overuse is a real thing for a player... 200pitches with modern SP/rotation settings is probably in that realm. are they "100% after 5 days? (or whatver your SP stamina settings dictate: "very low" is 5 days, "low" is sometimes ~4 for high stamina etc etc) if they aren't 100% after the 'right' number fo days, "200+" pitches is not asthetic, even though they may not throw that many. Last edited by NoOne; 10-13-2017 at 10:45 PM.

09-18-2017, 11:21 PM	#2
windowss Bat Boy Join Date: Sep 2017 Posts: 1	maybe

09-23-2017, 01:28 PM	#4
micropterus58 All Star Starter Join Date: May 2007 Location: Connecticut Posts: 1,261	In modern baseball starting pitchers rarely throw more than 125 pitches. This depends on the pitcher and the game situation. During the 19th century and early 20th century pitchers threw many more pitches and had many more innings pitched and complete games. Today it's a different strategy. Go to a site like www.baseball-reference.com and look at the yearly and career stats for the top pitchers. There are too many reasons for the strategy change for me to reply in a short post. Maybe someone else has an hour or two to give a detailed explanation. LOL

09-28-2017, 02:33 PM	#6
BIG17EASY Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3,291	Can you access the box score for that game? If so, what does it say for the pitch count?

10-19-2017, 12:48 PM	#9
rpriske Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Spencerville, ON, Canada Posts: 27,322	I was trying to picture that. How long would the league suspend the manager if he switched the firstbaseman to the mound in order to hit a batter. "It just got away from me! Honest!" "Every time?" __________________ Rusty Priske Poet, Canadian, Baseball Fan ````````````````````````````````````````