Pitcher Rest

termcl · 08-15-2017, 03:10 PM

Unlike modern day managers, I like to keep my starting pitchers in as long as they are effective, seven, eight, nine innings. As a result, my relief pitchers get used less than average. The problem, I'm seeing is the time my relievers take to recover from fatigue. Most relief outings are an inning, seldom more than that, and a lot of guys with less than one inning. The next day, these 1-inning or less guys are tired at 60%-70%. If my schedule has 2+ weeks between days off and no rainouts, almost my entire bullpen is fatigued.
I have the default setting for pitcher stamina and really don't want to mess with that if I can avoid it. Is there some setting I'm missing or something I should change? In real life you see a reliever get used on consecutive days and occasionally three in a row. If I use a pitcher on consecutive days he's exhausted for two. It's at the point right now that I have the minor league shuttle running just to have a rested pitcher in my bull pen.

NoOne · 08-15-2017, 04:22 PM

as they get tired they are less effective. i avoid the point in the game where the SP gets 'slightly tired', but i'm sure going past could be optimal in many situations. if you have a weaker bullpen, eking out extra innings is a great thing when you have superiour sp.

default can be 1 tick different between fictional 2017 and real mlb players 2017... as far as relievers go, though, i don't htink there's much of a difference.

(low vs very low -- both good for ~5man rotations, but one setting allows for high stamina pitchers to be near ~100% recovered in 4 days instead of 5... with very low it is at best ~80some percent with those same players)

RP can definitely be effective at "slightly tired" (different than above - not in a 'game'). really good ones can do 3 days straight and pitch effectively... like real life somethign to avoid, if possible.

~20pitches or less each outing, they can do it. they go out and throw 40pitches in 1 inning and they will likely need a day off -- no different than a long reliever.

just beacuse you are stressed doesn't change the physics of throwing a ball and the results onthe body over time. 40 pitches @ 90some mph is a rose is a rose is a rose.... relative to stamina rating in this context of course

that's the drawback of a extremely low (think <=5-10/100) stamina RP... 16-20/100 what i like, but let the feedback tell you where to draw the line (feedback on recovery time)

08-15-2017, 03:10 PM	#1
termcl Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 121	Pitcher Rest Unlike modern day managers, I like to keep my starting pitchers in as long as they are effective, seven, eight, nine innings. As a result, my relief pitchers get used less than average. The problem, I'm seeing is the time my relievers take to recover from fatigue. Most relief outings are an inning, seldom more than that, and a lot of guys with less than one inning. The next day, these 1-inning or less guys are tired at 60%-70%. If my schedule has 2+ weeks between days off and no rainouts, almost my entire bullpen is fatigued. I have the default setting for pitcher stamina and really don't want to mess with that if I can avoid it. Is there some setting I'm missing or something I should change? In real life you see a reliever get used on consecutive days and occasionally three in a row. If I use a pitcher on consecutive days he's exhausted for two. It's at the point right now that I have the minor league shuttle running just to have a rested pitcher in my bull pen.

08-15-2017, 04:22 PM	#2
NoOne Banned Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 7,273 Infractions: 0/1 (3)	as they get tired they are less effective. i avoid the point in the game where the SP gets 'slightly tired', but i'm sure going past could be optimal in many situations. if you have a weaker bullpen, eking out extra innings is a great thing when you have superiour sp. default can be 1 tick different between fictional 2017 and real mlb players 2017... as far as relievers go, though, i don't htink there's much of a difference. (low vs very low -- both good for ~5man rotations, but one setting allows for high stamina pitchers to be near ~100% recovered in 4 days instead of 5... with very low it is at best ~80some percent with those same players) RP can definitely be effective at "slightly tired" (different than above - not in a 'game'). really good ones can do 3 days straight and pitch effectively... like real life somethign to avoid, if possible. ~20pitches or less each outing, they can do it. they go out and throw 40pitches in 1 inning and they will likely need a day off -- no different than a long reliever. just beacuse you are stressed doesn't change the physics of throwing a ball and the results onthe body over time. 40 pitches @ 90some mph is a rose is a rose is a rose.... relative to stamina rating in this context of course that's the drawback of a extremely low (think <=5-10/100) stamina RP... 16-20/100 what i like, but let the feedback tell you where to draw the line (feedback on recovery time) Last edited by NoOne; 08-15-2017 at 04:23 PM.