My Players Reaaaaally Don't Like Me

Clemente21PIT · 07-11-2017, 06:45 PM

So, I'm in my first season as GM for a team on OOTP 17. I haven't operated a team much with 17 since I prefer to build fictional worlds and then sim seasons, but I've spent hours managing with 16 in years past.

Now, my team is a rebuilding team with a terrible record that's hovering right below .400. They were an expansion team two seasons ago (so I'm in the midst of their third season), and have never finished above .286 WPCT in either of their two 154-game seasons. I'm pretty sure I screwed up the expansion settings, but that it's own topic

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Anyways, what's happening is basically all my players keep sending me messages about how the team chemistry is absolutely terrible. I understand that we're a losing team, but when I look at the personality ratings, I see a bunch of praise for multiple members of my team for their work ethic and leadership abilities. I've either demoted, waived, or traded the players who don't work hard or have other issues with the team (such as "he doesn't handle losing well". So, in short, should I actually care about my players' complaints or ignore them since we're a rebuilding team?

Déjà Bru · 07-11-2017, 08:14 PM

We've talked a bit about this here. I believe the consensus was to do what you did (get rid of bad apples), but also it will take time and winning to turn the ship around.

It's sort of like the chicken and egg thing: Do you continue to lose because team chemistry is bad or is team chemistry bad because you continue to lose?

Bring in leaders if you can, captains and sparkplugs, and do whatever you can do to win more ballgames.

And have patience.

Déjà Bru · 07-11-2017, 09:28 PM

Of course, you could always go the Jeffrey Loria route . . .

Clemente21PIT · 07-11-2017, 09:39 PM

Thanks for the advice, Bru. I think I'll avoid the Loria route. I've got to make this team good or die trying!

I finished off the season at a .325 PCT, which I attribute to the fact that my only two star players were injured and my bullpen had an ERA of 6.57. I also came to the realization that I took a job with the team with the lowest payroll in the league (and then my owner cut that down an additional $4 million). Ah yes, I did want a challenge, but I'm soooo out of practice with this game.

We'll see what happens this offseason as I cut ties with some players and bring in some new faces. Hopefully, I'll be able to get back into the swing of things and put a winning team together. I just have to remember "patience, patience, patience," and then I'll be good.

Déjà Bru · 07-11-2017, 11:13 PM

Don't get frustrated. Keep plugging away until you get it turned around. That's the nature of this beast; it's not easy to deal with as you will see.

That's sound advice for this game in general, come to think of it. OOTP can be quite frustrating if you are playing it for a challenge (like setting Trading Difficulty to Hard). One can be down in the dumps for "years."

However, so much sweeter is the victory when it finally comes.

07-11-2017, 06:45 PM	#1
Clemente21PIT Major Leagues Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 436	My Players Reaaaaally Don't Like Me So, I'm in my first season as GM for a team on OOTP 17. I haven't operated a team much with 17 since I prefer to build fictional worlds and then sim seasons, but I've spent hours managing with 16 in years past. Now, my team is a rebuilding team with a terrible record that's hovering right below .400. They were an expansion team two seasons ago (so I'm in the midst of their third season), and have never finished above .286 WPCT in either of their two 154-game seasons. I'm pretty sure I screwed up the expansion settings, but that it's own topic . Anyways, what's happening is basically all my players keep sending me messages about how the team chemistry is absolutely terrible. I understand that we're a losing team, but when I look at the personality ratings, I see a bunch of praise for multiple members of my team for their work ethic and leadership abilities. I've either demoted, waived, or traded the players who don't work hard or have other issues with the team (such as "he doesn't handle losing well". So, in short, should I actually care about my players' complaints or ignore them since we're a rebuilding team?

07-11-2017, 08:14 PM	#2
Déjà Bru Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Long Island Posts: 11,738	We've talked a bit about this here. I believe the consensus was to do what you did (get rid of bad apples), but also it will take time and winning to turn the ship around. It's sort of like the chicken and egg thing: Do you continue to lose because team chemistry is bad or is team chemistry bad because you continue to lose? Bring in leaders if you can, captains and sparkplugs, and do whatever you can do to win more ballgames. And have patience. __________________ - Bru

07-11-2017, 09:28 PM	#3
Déjà Bru Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Long Island Posts: 11,738	Of course, you could always go the Jeffrey Loria route . . . __________________ - Bru

07-11-2017, 11:13 PM	#5
Déjà Bru Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Long Island Posts: 11,738	Don't get frustrated. Keep plugging away until you get it turned around. That's the nature of this beast; it's not easy to deal with as you will see. That's sound advice for this game in general, come to think of it. OOTP can be quite frustrating if you are playing it for a challenge (like setting Trading Difficulty to Hard). One can be down in the dumps for "years." However, so much sweeter is the victory when it finally comes. __________________ - Bru

07-11-2017, 09:39 PM	#4
Clemente21PIT Major Leagues Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 436	Thanks for the advice, Bru. I think I'll avoid the Loria route. I've got to make this team good or die trying! I finished off the season at a .325 PCT, which I attribute to the fact that my only two star players were injured and my bullpen had an ERA of 6.57. I also came to the realization that I took a job with the team with the lowest payroll in the league (and then my owner cut that down an additional $4 million). Ah yes, I did want a challenge, but I'm soooo out of practice with this game. We'll see what happens this offseason as I cut ties with some players and bring in some new faces. Hopefully, I'll be able to get back into the swing of things and put a winning team together. I just have to remember "patience, patience, patience," and then I'll be good.