Historical leagues don't work

yabanci · 06-30-2017, 11:00 PM

I can't count how many historical leagues I've set up over the last 15 years. So I bought OOTP18 today, and after spending 4 hours trying to set up a simple historical league in the 1980s, I find that everything is wrong.

Facegen - what happened? It used to be that you start a historical league and the game looks for the .fg files in the fg_files folder and automatically loads facegen for real historical players. Not anymore. Now every player gets random facegen faces, almost all with some of the most ridiculous facial hair I've ever seen. In any event, historical players shouldn't get this ridiculous facial hair. Their faces should come from their historical .fg files. I have 18,000+ of these .fg files in the fg_files folder. They worked fine for OOTP 17, 16, 15, probably farther back, I don't remember. I search the forum and read many threads about how messed up the historical setup is. Some people speculate there might be a mod out there on some defunct website. No help. Nobody knows. It worked fine in OOTP17. Don't understand the motive for changing it.

Uniforms - all wrong. Uniforms don't match up to years.

Logos - all wrong. Don't match up to years.

Many more problems. Settings you guys added to the game but didn't bother explaining in the manual or anywhere else.

I could go on and on, but I'm already over the 2 hours playing time that Steam gives you to return the game for refund, so I don't want to open it anymore and jeopardize my refund, they might make an exception given the circumstances.

Orcin · 07-01-2017, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by yabanci

Facegen - what happened?

Works fine for me.

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Originally Posted by yabanci

Uniforms - all wrong. Uniforms don't match up to years.

Works fine for me.

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Originally Posted by yabanci

Logos - all wrong. Don't match up to years.

Works fine for me. Seriously!

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Originally Posted by yabanci

Many more problems. Settings you guys added to the game but didn't bother explaining in the manual or anywhere else.

Such as?

yabanci · 07-01-2017, 12:10 AM

You trying to be funny or just an a-hole?

rpriske · 07-01-2017, 08:03 AM

Uh, I think he was telling you that it works fine for him, which increases the odds that you are doing something incorrectly rather than that there is a bug.

dmacgreg37 · 07-01-2017, 10:26 AM

Yeah, it worked for me too. Not sure where there's a misstep, but something is off.

thehef · 07-01-2017, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by yabanci

You trying to be funny or just an a-hole?

"You catch more flies with honey than vinegar..."

Since you are apparently the only one currently experiencing and reporting these issues out of countless historical players, you might want to take a step back, and then try to report some of the details of how you set up your league. This would likely give other OOTPers a chance to speculate on the most-likely causes of your troubles.

Also, it does not take hours to setup a simple historical league, so you could try setting up a few of those (maybe each with minor variations), simply for test purposes to see if any of those issues occur, and then report back in a manner suggesting you are serious about getting assistance.

(And it's entirely possible that this exercise will lead to that "ah-ha!" moment that will clear everything up!) Good luck!

Lukas Berger · 07-02-2017, 10:44 AM

What steps are you taking to set up the league? Can you walk me through what you're doing?

Lordofbrewtown · 07-04-2017, 03:32 PM

I posted in another thread that I am also seeing the issue with facegen in historical leagues - though it is not widespread. Only some players seem to be affected. I have even tried re-installing the add-on - to no effect.

I'd say about 1/10 players just has an obviously wrong picture (wrong racial background and/or hair color/facial hair).

David Watts · 07-04-2017, 03:43 PM

Okay, please don't get mad at me if you've done this already. Have you downloaded the historical facegens mod? It's in Add on Central if you bought from OOTP and is part of the Workshop if you purchased from Steam. Once you've downloaded the mod and installed it, you should get the correct facegens when playing historical.

I think there are mods for uniforms as well, but I've never used those. I'm sure others can guide you to them.

Logo's, I too get the correct logos when I create historical games, so not sure what the issue could be there.

06-30-2017, 11:00 PM	#1
yabanci Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 304	Historical leagues don't work I can't count how many historical leagues I've set up over the last 15 years. So I bought OOTP18 today, and after spending 4 hours trying to set up a simple historical league in the 1980s, I find that everything is wrong. Facegen - what happened? It used to be that you start a historical league and the game looks for the .fg files in the fg_files folder and automatically loads facegen for real historical players. Not anymore. Now every player gets random facegen faces, almost all with some of the most ridiculous facial hair I've ever seen. In any event, historical players shouldn't get this ridiculous facial hair. Their faces should come from their historical .fg files. I have 18,000+ of these .fg files in the fg_files folder. They worked fine for OOTP 17, 16, 15, probably farther back, I don't remember. I search the forum and read many threads about how messed up the historical setup is. Some people speculate there might be a mod out there on some defunct website. No help. Nobody knows. It worked fine in OOTP17. Don't understand the motive for changing it. Uniforms - all wrong. Uniforms don't match up to years. Logos - all wrong. Don't match up to years. Many more problems. Settings you guys added to the game but didn't bother explaining in the manual or anywhere else. I could go on and on, but I'm already over the 2 hours playing time that Steam gives you to return the game for refund, so I don't want to open it anymore and jeopardize my refund, they might make an exception given the circumstances.

07-01-2017, 08:03 AM	#4
rpriske Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Spencerville, ON, Canada Posts: 27,263	Uh, I think he was telling you that it works fine for him, which increases the odds that you are doing something incorrectly rather than that there is a bug. __________________ Rusty Priske Poet, Canadian, Baseball Fan ````````````````````````````````````````

07-02-2017, 10:44 AM	#7
Lukas Berger OOTP Developments Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Nice, Côte d'Azur, France Posts: 22,201	What steps are you taking to set up the league? Can you walk me through what you're doing? __________________ lukas@ootpdevelopments.com Buy Out of the Park Baseball 27! Need to upload files for us to check out? Instructions can be found here

07-01-2017, 12:10 AM	#3
yabanci Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 304	You trying to be funny or just an a-hole?

07-01-2017, 10:26 AM	#5
dmacgreg37 Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 497	Yeah, it worked for me too. Not sure where there's a misstep, but something is off.

07-04-2017, 03:32 PM	#8
Lordofbrewtown Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: St Petersburg, FL Posts: 301	I posted in another thread that I am also seeing the issue with facegen in historical leagues - though it is not widespread. Only some players seem to be affected. I have even tried re-installing the add-on - to no effect. I'd say about 1/10 players just has an obviously wrong picture (wrong racial background and/or hair color/facial hair).

07-04-2017, 03:43 PM	#9
David Watts Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Looking for a place called Leehofooks Posts: 10,134 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	Okay, please don't get mad at me if you've done this already. Have you downloaded the historical facegens mod? It's in Add on Central if you bought from OOTP and is part of the Workshop if you purchased from Steam. Once you've downloaded the mod and installed it, you should get the correct facegens when playing historical. I think there are mods for uniforms as well, but I've never used those. I'm sure others can guide you to them. Logo's, I too get the correct logos when I create historical games, so not sure what the issue could be there.