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louisvillec271 · 03-09-2017, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Airdrop01

If it were this, I'd be so happy.

If it were to be this(Microleague re-creation) that would be a massive disappointment. That game(Microleague) is 30 years old. In no way should OOTP resemble a game that is 30 years old. I'm hoping for steps forward, not leaps backwards.

Airdrop01 · 03-09-2017, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by louisvillec271

If it were to be this(Microleague re-creation) that would be a massive disappointment. That game(Microleague) is 30 years old. In no way should OOTP resemble a game that is 30 years old. I'm hoping for steps forward, not leaps backwards.

35 years old. And it was and is A W E S O M E.

Also: Get off my lawn, kid.

Me... and my old man mood now:

louisvillec271 · 03-09-2017, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Airdrop01

35 years old. And it was and is A W E S O M E.

Also: Get off my lawn, kid.

Me... and my old man mood now:

Microleague was not awesome. If OOTP were to release a game that was in part a recreation of MicroLeague, it would be the first version of the game that I wouldn't purchase. I see no reason to regres 30 years.

By the way, I'm older than you are. Not by much but I am. I used to own and play the game when I was a child, just like yourself. But unlike you I remember what playing that game was like. The gameplay was slow, and it took forever to complete just one game. There were only a select number of teams, and only a handful of ballparks. It was okay for it's time, but it's time has long since passed. We should not revisit games that are nothing more than relics of the past.

By the way, I'd like for someone to explain why OOTP has gone the route of incorporating graphics into gameplay. Anyone who is a baseball fan can easily imagine the action that's taking place on the field. Every fan has caught games on the radio. How different is listening to a radio call of a game to that of reading the text play by play in OOTP? It's different, but not that much. So if we're able to imagine what transpires during the course of a game, why do we need 3D?

Airdrop01 · 03-09-2017, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by louisvillec271

Microleague was not awesome. If OOTP were to release a game that was in part a recreation of MicroLeague, it would be the first version of the game that I wouldn't purchase. I see no reason to regres 30 years.

By the way, I'm older than you are. Not by much but I am. I used to own and play the game when I was a child, just like yourself. But unlike you I remember what playing that game was like. The gameplay was slow, and it took forever to complete just one game. There were only a select number of teams, and only a handful of ballparks. It was okay for it's time, but it's time has long since passed. We should not revisit games that are nothing more than relics of the past.

By the way, I'd like for someone to explain why OOTP has gone the route of incorporating graphics into gameplay. Anyone who is a baseball fan can easily imagine the action that's taking place on the field. Every fan has caught games on the radio. How different is listening to a radio call of a game to that of reading the text play by play in OOTP? It's different, but not that much. So if we're able to imagine what transpires during the course of a game, why do we need 3D?

How old do you think I am? Just curious. I'm not sure how you'd get that info. I was a grown man when Microleague came out. And it was and is A W E S O M E. It's cool though. But: You still have to get off my lawn.

Reed · 03-09-2017, 08:26 PM

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By the way, I'd like for someone to explain why OOTP has gone the route of incorporating graphics into gameplay. Anyone who is a baseball fan can easily imagine the action that's taking place on the field. Every fan has caught games on the radio. How different is listening to a radio call of a game to that of reading the text play by play in OOTP? It's different, but not that much. So if we're able to imagine what transpires during the course of a game, why do we need 3D?[/QUOTE]

Isn't that like saying why watch a game on TV or in person when you can use your imagination listening to the radio, and why listen to the radio if you can read about it and imagine the play calling?
I suppose OOTP has incorporated graphics because it sells.

louisvillec271 · 03-10-2017, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Reed

Isn't that like saying why watch a game on TV or in person when you can use your imagination listening to the radio, and why listen to the radio if you can read about it and imagine the play calling?
I suppose OOTP has incorporated graphics because it sells.

Let's begin with your premise that OOTP incorporated graphics because it sells. Out of the Park has been selling for quite a while now, most of the series has been without a shoddy graphics element. In addition, it would be hard to believe that customers are purchasing the game solely for the 3D element of the game.

As for your bit about listening to games on the radio; let's address that. Most people who are fans of the game of baseball will at times listen to games on the radio due to being unable to watch the t.v. feed. In those cases, it's not difficult to imagine the action of the game. You know what balls and strikes look like, you know what singles, doubles and home runs look like. Fans don't need to watch the t.v. to understand what's transpiring during the course of the game.

So the 3D portion of the game shouldn't be a focus of the development team. Especially so if the intent is to make the game look like a game that has aged 30 years. If the game is going to have graphics, the graphic portion of the game should be held to a modern day standard. I'm sorry, but those of you who wish to have Microleague graphics incorporated into the game are a minority of the consumers of the game. I can assure you that there's quite a bit more consumers that don't want shabby graphics as opposed to those that do.

Lukas Berger · 03-10-2017, 07:28 AM

You guys can discuss this if you want, but we have no intention of making OOTP look like Microleague or any other 30 year old game, so it's kind of a moot point. Good for a theoretical discussion I guess, but that's about it

We did add graphics and we'll keep improving the graphics over time, but I think it's safe to say that Microleague style graphics are not the direction we want to go in. We'll be aiming for more modern standards

It's unlikely we'll be able to make it look like MLB: The Show anytime terribly soon, but that would be more the eventual goal.

louisvillec271 · 03-10-2017, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Lukas Berger

You guys can discuss this if you want, but we have no intention of making OOTP look like Microleague or any other 30 year old game, so it's kind of a moot point. Good for a theoretical discussion I guess, but that's about it

We did add graphics and we'll keep improving the graphics over time, but I think it's safe to say that Microleague style graphics are not the direction we want to go in. We'll be aiming for more modern standards

It's unlikely we'll be able to make it look like MLB: The Show anytime terribly soon, but that would be more the eventual goal.

Music to my ears.

Pineywoods OOTPer · 03-10-2017, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by louisvillec271

Music to my ears.

Hear, hear.

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Xogo · 03-10-2017, 01:15 PM

Why are there no screenshots as of 3/10? Cant think of why there wouldnt be any for a product like this.

Lukas Berger · 03-10-2017, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Xogo

Why are there no screenshots as of 3/10? Cant think of why there wouldnt be any for a product like this.

See my quote in the previous page:

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Originally Posted by Lukas Berger

Pre-releasing screenshots is always a bit problematic though, since they require approval from several different places now, the process takes a long time and is quite involved.

It's not even remotely as simple as just uploading some screenshots for everyone to look at. It's almost more trouble than it's worth.

That's not to mention that by the time we can release them, they'll likely be outdated given how fast progress moves while we're still in the dev cycle.

Pineywoods OOTPer · 03-10-2017, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Xogo

Why are there no screenshots as of 3/10? Cant think of why there wouldnt be any for a product like this.

There are some in the Road To Release posts.

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Elektranaut · 03-11-2017, 08:13 AM

What's all this about prawns playing baseball?

texasmame · 03-11-2017, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Elektranaut

What's all this about prawns playing baseball?

60 day DL for deveining.

maximus33 · 03-12-2017, 09:53 AM

Might as well have robots take the field.

Mariner and Giants Fan · 03-12-2017, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Airdrop01

How old do you think I am? Just curious. I'm not sure how you'd get that info. I was a grown man when Microleague came out. And it was and is A W E S O M E. It's cool though. But: You still have to get off my lawn.

Microleague was awesome, for it's time! Loved that game and then I got into sims like Diamond Mind Baseball and said who needed graphics. Then when OOTP came out with 3D I was thinking, lame! However when I used it I was like, Game! Oh heck yeah as I think it actually enhances the imagination process, I love it. So for those who were worried when Airdrop showed the Microleague screenshot, do you not recognize "tongue in cheek"? lol seriously get that broomstick out

Pineywoods OOTPer · 03-16-2017, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Elektranaut

What's all this about prawns playing baseball?

I thought the shrimp were on the menu, not in the field.

bleachercreature · 03-24-2017, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Airdrop01

If it were this, I'd be so happy.

microleague... a classic!!!!

bleachercreature · 03-26-2017, 01:29 PM

Apparently, there is zero confidence in the product this year, thus, no screen shots.

Reggie · 03-26-2017, 01:47 PM

I'm selling screen shots for $3 a pop.

03-10-2017, 07:28 AM	#47
Lukas Berger OOTP Developments Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Nice, Côte d'Azur, France Posts: 22,055	You guys can discuss this if you want, but we have no intention of making OOTP look like Microleague or any other 30 year old game, so it's kind of a moot point. Good for a theoretical discussion I guess, but that's about it We did add graphics and we'll keep improving the graphics over time, but I think it's safe to say that Microleague style graphics are not the direction we want to go in. We'll be aiming for more modern standards It's unlikely we'll be able to make it look like MLB: The Show anytime terribly soon, but that would be more the eventual goal. __________________ lukas@ootpdevelopments.com Pre-Order Out of the Park Baseball 27! Need to upload files for us to check out? Instructions can be found here

03-09-2017, 08:26 PM	#45
Reed Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 2,610	[QUOTE=louisvillec271;4163773 By the way, I'd like for someone to explain why OOTP has gone the route of incorporating graphics into gameplay. Anyone who is a baseball fan can easily imagine the action that's taking place on the field. Every fan has caught games on the radio. How different is listening to a radio call of a game to that of reading the text play by play in OOTP? It's different, but not that much. So if we're able to imagine what transpires during the course of a game, why do we need 3D?[/QUOTE] Isn't that like saying why watch a game on TV or in person when you can use your imagination listening to the radio, and why listen to the radio if you can read about it and imagine the play calling? I suppose OOTP has incorporated graphics because it sells.

03-10-2017, 01:15 PM	#50
Xogo Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 216	Why are there no screenshots as of 3/10? Cant think of why there wouldnt be any for a product like this.

03-11-2017, 08:13 AM	#53
Elektranaut Major Leagues Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 361	What's all this about prawns playing baseball?

03-12-2017, 09:53 AM	#55
maximus33 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 135	Might as well have robots take the field.

03-26-2017, 01:29 PM	#59
bleachercreature Major Leagues Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 403	Apparently, there is zero confidence in the product this year, thus, no screen shots.

03-26-2017, 01:47 PM	#60
Reggie Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 442	I'm selling screen shots for $3 a pop.