Thomas Meara's 1888 Season: .255 AVG, .284 OBP, 155 hits, 101 HR, 180 RBI

Michael Xavier · 03-22-2017, 01:44 AM

I was simulating from 1871 to 2017 with no color barrier, and I stopped in 1920 and noticed this guy as the all time home run leader. I had never heard of him. He existed, though not as a major leaguer. Still, check out his 1888 season. 101 of his 155 hits were home runs. That is unreal.

chuy1530 · 03-22-2017, 01:48 AM

Was he playing in a shoebox?

Michael Xavier · 03-22-2017, 02:16 AM

My favorite part of his career is that he has three consecutive seasons of sub-.200 batting average, but slugged 154 homers in that same time span.

chuy1530 · 03-22-2017, 02:29 AM

It's Adam Dunn's great great grandfather.

Jamee999 · 03-22-2017, 02:37 AM

Do you have adjustments for low playing-time turned off? I suspect that this guy's database inputs are wrong; it seems like a typo. Baseball-Reference has him as hitting 32 homers in just 11 games for Manchester in 1887. Seems more likely that it was actually 3 or 2, to me, considering that he didn't play in organized ball after that.

Michael Xavier · 03-22-2017, 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Jamee999

Do you have adjustments for low playing-time turned off? I suspect that this guy's database inputs are wrong; it seems like a typo. Baseball-Reference has him as hitting 32 homers in just 11 games for Manchester in 1887. Seems more likely that it was actually 3 or 2, to me, considering that he didn't play in organized ball after that.

No, but I do have the OOTP development engine enabled rather than real time stats. I like it when obscure players come out of nowhere to be Hall of Fame caliber, like Willard Schmidt winning multiple Cy Young Awards, or Hal Bevan becoming the best slap single hitter this side of Ichiro.

Supermercado · 03-22-2017, 03:29 AM

Raised this in the database errors thread and it's being looked at. He has 255 power so it's definitely something going troppo.

alkeiper · 03-22-2017, 09:01 AM

His B-Ref page is missing stolen bases so I'd say 99.9% it's an input error on some level.

Spritze · 03-22-2017, 12:39 PM

There are a ghastly number of mistakes on BBref. I always used to let them know when one of you guys found one but they never responded and never fixed anything so I don't do that anymore. That means the most correct historical database is the one in OOTP and every time you spot something it gets fixed here immediately.

jeffw3000 · 03-22-2017, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamee999

Do you have adjustments for low playing-time turned off? I suspect that this guy's database inputs are wrong; it seems like a typo. Baseball-Reference has him as hitting 32 homers in just 11 games for Manchester in 1887. Seems more likely that it was actually 3 or 2, to me, considering that he didn't play in organized ball after that.

I especially like how he accumulated all 32 home runs while playing for Manchester. At the same time he only had 16 hits while playing there. He must have been a very efficient player.

maximus33 · 03-22-2017, 01:07 PM

He also has 67 homers in my replay. He ended up with 480 but never played a full season

Huckleberry · 03-22-2017, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffw3000

I especially like how he accumulated all 32 home runs while playing for Manchester. At the same time he only had 16 hits while playing there. He must have been a very efficient player.

Is a 1.980 ISO good?

Lukas Berger · 03-22-2017, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by chuy1530

It's Adam Dunn's great great grandfather.

Time traveling Joey Gallo!

Jamee999 · 03-22-2017, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffw3000

I especially like how he accumulated all 32 home runs while playing for Manchester. At the same time he only had 16 hits while playing there. He must have been a very efficient player.

Ha! I didn't even notice that he had more homers than hits.

Padreman · 03-22-2017, 02:52 PM

Is any one else getting inflated stats?

Lukas Berger · 03-22-2017, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Padreman

Is any one else getting inflated stats?

What game mode, years etc?

Padreman · 03-22-2017, 03:30 PM

I mean just in general out of the norm numbers I have not sim my game yet not till the full release on Friday

maximus33 · 03-22-2017, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Lukas Berger

What game mode, years etc?

Replay, Its just when he comes in on mine. I didn't see anyone else that inflated 1871-1900

Spritze · 03-22-2017, 07:30 PM

Markus found a pitcher a few weeks ago with 886 K's in 31 innings. BBref again.

Huckleberry · 03-22-2017, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Spritze

Markus found a pitcher a few weeks ago with 886 K's in 31 innings. BBref again.

Wow, his catcher must have been terrible!

03-22-2017, 01:44 AM	#1
Michael Xavier Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Evansville, IN Posts: 455	Thomas Meara's 1888 Season: .255 AVG, .284 OBP, 155 hits, 101 HR, 180 RBI I was simulating from 1871 to 2017 with no color barrier, and I stopped in 1920 and noticed this guy as the all time home run leader. I had never heard of him. He existed, though not as a major leaguer. Still, check out his 1888 season. 101 of his 155 hits were home runs. That is unreal. Attached Images

03-22-2017, 12:39 PM	#9
Spritze OOTP Historical Czar Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Bothell Wa Posts: 7,253	There are a ghastly number of mistakes on BBref. I always used to let them know when one of you guys found one but they never responded and never fixed anything so I don't do that anymore. That means the most correct historical database is the one in OOTP and every time you spot something it gets fixed here immediately. __________________ It's madness, madness, I tell you! For the love of God, don't do it!

03-22-2017, 02:52 PM	#15
Padreman Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2013 Location: Tijuana, Baja California, Mexico (formally San Diego, CA.) Posts: 4,138	Is any one else getting inflated stats? __________________ Chargers= Despicable Traitors

03-22-2017, 03:30 PM	#17
Padreman Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2013 Location: Tijuana, Baja California, Mexico (formally San Diego, CA.) Posts: 4,138	I mean just in general out of the norm numbers I have not sim my game yet not till the full release on Friday __________________ Chargers= Despicable Traitors

03-22-2017, 07:30 PM	#19
Spritze OOTP Historical Czar Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Bothell Wa Posts: 7,253	Markus found a pitcher a few weeks ago with 886 K's in 31 innings. BBref again. __________________ It's madness, madness, I tell you! For the love of God, don't do it!

03-22-2017, 01:48 AM	#2
chuy1530 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 53	Was he playing in a shoebox?

03-22-2017, 02:16 AM	#3
Michael Xavier Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Evansville, IN Posts: 455	My favorite part of his career is that he has three consecutive seasons of sub-.200 batting average, but slugged 154 homers in that same time span.

03-22-2017, 02:29 AM	#4
chuy1530 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 53	It's Adam Dunn's great great grandfather.

03-22-2017, 02:37 AM	#5
Jamee999 All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 772	Do you have adjustments for low playing-time turned off? I suspect that this guy's database inputs are wrong; it seems like a typo. Baseball-Reference has him as hitting 32 homers in just 11 games for Manchester in 1887. Seems more likely that it was actually 3 or 2, to me, considering that he didn't play in organized ball after that.

03-22-2017, 03:29 AM	#7
Supermercado Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Left Field Posts: 251	Raised this in the database errors thread and it's being looked at. He has 255 power so it's definitely something going troppo.

03-22-2017, 09:01 AM	#8
alkeiper Minors (Single A) Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 86	His B-Ref page is missing stolen bases so I'd say 99.9% it's an input error on some level.

03-22-2017, 01:07 PM	#11
maximus33 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 135	He also has 67 homers in my replay. He ended up with 480 but never played a full season