Ratings stars

thbroman · 08-26-2003, 10:42 AM

I am long-time fan of OOTP, and recently upgraded to OOTP5. I love the assignment of stars to both established players and strs, and, used with certain cautions, I find they really help me find the players I am looking for in large pools. But here are two questions.

First, do you have examples from your own experience of really nice surprises -- you know, a guy who had 2 stars when drafted as an amateur who turns out to be a really good starter? I haven't seen this happen myself, just 4- and 5-star disappointments, as of course there should be.

Second, and this really belongs to the OOTP wish list, could the star system be modified to allow us to input our own preferences? As long as I have played it, OOTP has alswys placed a big premium on guys who hit for power, but I prefer speed-defense-contact people. It would be nice to make the ratings do that.

ctorg · 08-26-2003, 11:27 AM

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Originally posted by thbroman
I am long-time fan of OOTP, and recently upgraded to OOTP5. I love the assignment of stars to both established players and strs, and, used with certain cautions, I find they really help me find the players I am looking for in large pools. But here are two questions.

First, do you have examples from your own experience of really nice surprises -- you know, a guy who had 2 stars when drafted as an amateur who turns out to be a really good starter? I haven't seen this happen myself, just 4- and 5-star disappointments, as of course there should be.

Second, and this really belongs to the OOTP wish list, could the star system be modified to allow us to input our own preferences? As long as I have played it, OOTP has alswys placed a big premium on guys who hit for power, but I prefer speed-defense-contact people. It would be nice to make the ratings do that.

I've had guys who turned into stars who were near the last pick in the draft (Mike Piazza-style). It is far more common for guys to fizzle before reaching the majors, though. It's like real life in that way.

That's an interesting request, and not one I've seen before. It's a good idea, but I don't know if Markus would find it to be a programming nightmare or not.

Wilt · 08-26-2003, 12:43 PM

I have 2 star guys turn into 4 star guys with a couple of talent raises. Sometimes I'll see a great prospect in the top 100 list and think where did he come from? After checking his player card and seeing he was drafted in the 4th round of an amateur draft it becomes obvious he had talent raises and was a draft steal!

Brandiles · 08-26-2003, 01:50 PM

I currently have a guy in AA who's listed as a 5-star prospect, but was drafted as a 2.5 star guy a few years back... He's made great strides in his hitting talent, although he's still is a terrible fielder, so I'll likely use him for trade fodder (he's a middle-infielder). No idea whether he'll pan out though..

ctorg · 08-26-2003, 02:05 PM

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Originally posted by Brandiles
I currently have a guy in AA who's listed as a 5-star prospect, but was drafted as a 2.5 star guy a few years back... He's made great strides in his hitting talent, although he's still is a terrible fielder, so I'll likely use him for trade fodder (he's a middle-infielder). No idea whether he'll pan out though..

You could always try to make him a 1B or something. Maybe even a corner outfielder if you don't care much about defense there.

Brandiles · 08-26-2003, 02:06 PM

I currently have a guy in AA who's listed as a 5-star prospect, but was drafted as a 2.5 star guy a few years back... He's made great strides in his hitting talent, although he's still is a terrible fielder, so I'll likely use him for trade fodder (he's a middle-infielder). No idea whether he'll pan out though..

andjbock · 08-26-2003, 02:06 PM

teach him 1B, and he'll do fine

Brandiles · 08-26-2003, 04:39 PM

...sorry about the double posting...

Anyway, I may give that a go. He's got an E at 2B, so maybe he'll do better over at first...can't do much worse! I tend to be a stickler for range though, even at 1B. I'd really like to get someone who has at least a range of C..
-Brandiles

thbroman · 08-27-2003, 09:35 AM

Thanks, guys, this is really cool.
I'll keep my eye ut for that diamond in the rough.

Brandiles · 08-27-2003, 02:48 PM

I ended up trading that player to Anaheim for a good looking young catcher and a couple of minor league pitchers. He had a range of E at 1B as well, so I decided to boot him. I will keep checking on him though to see how he does.
-Brandiles

08-26-2003, 10:42 AM	#1
thbroman All Star Reserve Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 867	Ratings stars I am long-time fan of OOTP, and recently upgraded to OOTP5. I love the assignment of stars to both established players and strs, and, used with certain cautions, I find they really help me find the players I am looking for in large pools. But here are two questions. First, do you have examples from your own experience of really nice surprises -- you know, a guy who had 2 stars when drafted as an amateur who turns out to be a really good starter? I haven't seen this happen myself, just 4- and 5-star disappointments, as of course there should be. Second, and this really belongs to the OOTP wish list, could the star system be modified to allow us to input our own preferences? As long as I have played it, OOTP has alswys placed a big premium on guys who hit for power, but I prefer speed-defense-contact people. It would be nice to make the ratings do that.

08-26-2003, 12:43 PM	#3
Wilt Minors (Double A) Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: in the paint Posts: 179	I have 2 star guys turn into 4 star guys with a couple of talent raises. Sometimes I'll see a great prospect in the top 100 list and think where did he come from? After checking his player card and seeing he was drafted in the 4th round of an amateur draft it becomes obvious he had talent raises and was a draft steal! __________________ Blank until I can find my tripping penguin again!

08-26-2003, 01:50 PM	#4
Brandiles Bat Boy Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 17	I currently have a guy in AA who's listed as a 5-star prospect, but was drafted as a 2.5 star guy a few years back... He's made great strides in his hitting talent, although he's still is a terrible fielder, so I'll likely use him for trade fodder (he's a middle-infielder). No idea whether he'll pan out though..

08-26-2003, 02:06 PM	#6
Brandiles Bat Boy Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 17	I currently have a guy in AA who's listed as a 5-star prospect, but was drafted as a 2.5 star guy a few years back... He's made great strides in his hitting talent, although he's still is a terrible fielder, so I'll likely use him for trade fodder (he's a middle-infielder). No idea whether he'll pan out though..

08-26-2003, 02:06 PM	#7
andjbock Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Somerville, MA, USA Bats: Right Throws: Left Posts: 3,640	teach him 1B, and he'll do fine

08-26-2003, 04:39 PM	#8
Brandiles Bat Boy Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 17	...sorry about the double posting... Anyway, I may give that a go. He's got an E at 2B, so maybe he'll do better over at first...can't do much worse! I tend to be a stickler for range though, even at 1B. I'd really like to get someone who has at least a range of C.. -Brandiles

08-27-2003, 09:35 AM	#9
thbroman All Star Reserve Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 867	Thanks, guys, this is really cool. I'll keep my eye ut for that diamond in the rough.

08-27-2003, 02:48 PM	#10
Brandiles Bat Boy Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 17	I ended up trading that player to Anaheim for a good looking young catcher and a couple of minor league pitchers. He had a range of E at 1B as well, so I decided to boot him. I will keep checking on him though to see how he does. -Brandiles