Tried my hand at historical facegen

pstrickert · 03-27-2016, 07:48 PM

I wasn't satisfied with a few players, so, for the first time, I tried the facegen modeler. If anyone is interested, here's Pete Rose, Joe Morgan, and Gorman Thomas.

pstrickert · 03-27-2016, 07:52 PM

It was hard to find a good photo of Gorman.

endgame · 03-27-2016, 08:08 PM

Good stuff !!!

pstrickert · 03-27-2016, 11:45 PM

Three more.

pstrickert · 03-27-2016, 11:46 PM

Foster - Rettenmund - Bench

pstrickert · 03-27-2016, 11:56 PM

Old Vida Blue vs. New Vida Blue

pstrickert · 03-28-2016, 12:06 AM

Old Sparky Lyle vs New Sparky Lyle

pstrickert · 03-28-2016, 12:30 AM

Old Boomer vs. New Boomer

endgame · 03-28-2016, 01:16 AM

You've found a new skill! I sure like your revisions.

Lukas Berger · 03-28-2016, 02:21 AM

Great stuff!

The Game · 03-28-2016, 07:45 AM

There are many players that you pull up in the game and you are like, thats not this guy or that guy. Although i have not redone them in a few years i have many accurate versions of Big Mac, Lance Johnson, Baines, Konerko & Bagwell to name a few. Ps great job on those.

Gambo · 03-30-2016, 12:46 PM

We had such a diverse group doing the original historical facegens there was a vast difference in quality of work. Coming down to ability of computers and availability of good pics.

There was also at 1st some question as to how to handle beards and such (i.e. Sparky Lyle). The original feeling (keeping in mind facegen was new) was to have guys younger and without beards because you could add beards and age them in game.

Many of the updates have much better faces but it's still hard to compile all the updates together. I think the roughest and most variable era is the late 70s and 80s because it's such a mix of different looks for players and a lot of players have been added as older versions when they became coaches.

Gambo · 03-30-2016, 12:57 PM

Just think what a pain in the a** but thrilling project that was. At the time I had a pretty good computer and it still took about 5-7 minutes to do a regular facegen. I'd have 3 instances of the program up and be cycling through guys with two processing and one being set up.

Everyone who volunteered was great but it was maddening chaos. Guys volunteering where it wasn't needed. Inconsistent quality of source pics. Colorizing or keeping B&W. No understanding the program. Organizing 27000 facegens. Naming conventions since there were 3 databases being used.

It would have been awesome if a lot of the people who do facegens now were here in the beginning. Probably wouldn't be a bad idea to organize and update the entire historical facegen set.

TribeFanInNC · 03-30-2016, 01:07 PM

Yep, I remember the project too. It was so fast and big. I know tried some, but it was really hard to do, especially earlier players. I was trying the '54 Indians and it was really hard to find good pictures. I was pretty unsatisfied with my efforts. Agree that an update could be in order. The biggest thing is just getting a consistent skin tone. You get everything from ghost white to bright orange.

Nice work Mr. Strickert!

The Game · 03-30-2016, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Gambo

Just think what a pain in the a** but thrilling project that was. At the time I had a pretty good computer and it still took about 5-7 minutes to do a regular facegen. I'd have 3 instances of the program up and be cycling through guys with two processing and one being set up.

Everyone who volunteered was great but it was maddening chaos. Guys volunteering where it wasn't needed. Inconsistent quality of source pics. Colorizing or keeping B&W. No understanding the program. Organizing 27000 facegens. Naming conventions since there were 3 databases being used.

It would have been awesome if a lot of the people who do facegens now were here in the beginning. Probably wouldn't be a bad idea to organize and update the entire historical facegen set.

I'm in. I have gotten better, for the most part even over the ones I did when i 1st got hooked on 11. There are a ton of players i would like to redo. I am not great at finding quality pics for obscure minor leaguers.
1 Orig One Dog
2 redo One Dog
3 1988 One Dog

Bunktown Ballers · 04-09-2016, 12:56 PM

I've done some very nice Facegens...How do I link to share? Zip file would be great. I have the White Sox top 3 minor leagues complete

The Game · 04-09-2016, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Bunktown Ballers

I've done some very nice Facegens...How do I link to share? Zip file would be great. I have the White Sox top 3 minor leagues complete

Post a thread in the photos forum on here with a zip file and also PM Jazzrock about putting it on ootpmods/ootpwiki.

AESP_pres · 03-11-2017, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Gambo

Just think what a pain in the a** but thrilling project that was.

Indeed it was, but it was a fun learning project. After all those years I continue to work on them (it's a long task to do it starting in 1871), but I'm not satisfied enough to think of making my works public yet.

At least I'm better, and my computer is much better, than when we made the initial set

03-27-2016, 07:52 PM	#2
pstrickert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 17,030	It was hard to find a good photo of Gorman. Attached Images

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endgame Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 16,842	Good stuff !!! __________________ "Try again. Fail again. Fail better." -- Samuel Beckett _____________________________________________

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pstrickert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 17,030	Foster - Rettenmund - Bench Attached Images

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03-28-2016, 07:45 AM	#11
The Game Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Inside The Game Posts: 30,937	There are many players that you pull up in the game and you are like, thats not this guy or that guy. Although i have not redone them in a few years i have many accurate versions of Big Mac, Lance Johnson, Baines, Konerko & Bagwell to name a few. Ps great job on those. __________________ Go today don't wait for tomorrow It isn't promised, all the time you get borrowed Don't live your life for other people Don't bottle your emotions till they crack and fill a couple just sorrows Take your mind and refocus go get a paper write your goals out Throw your middle fingers to all your haters "Stay Strong"

03-28-2016, 02:21 AM	#10
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03-30-2016, 12:46 PM	#12
Gambo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 2,388	We had such a diverse group doing the original historical facegens there was a vast difference in quality of work. Coming down to ability of computers and availability of good pics. There was also at 1st some question as to how to handle beards and such (i.e. Sparky Lyle). The original feeling (keeping in mind facegen was new) was to have guys younger and without beards because you could add beards and age them in game. Many of the updates have much better faces but it's still hard to compile all the updates together. I think the roughest and most variable era is the late 70s and 80s because it's such a mix of different looks for players and a lot of players have been added as older versions when they became coaches. __________________ *Give me league evolution with historical imports!!!* OOTP MODS: Historical Face Gen Project, Spritze/Gambo Database, OOTP Stadium Chart and Ballpark Images, MLB Compiled Uniform & Logo Pack available at... http://www.ootpmods.com

03-30-2016, 12:57 PM	#13
Gambo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 2,388	Just think what a pain in the a but thrilling project that was. At the time I had a pretty good computer and it still took about 5-7 minutes to do a regular facegen. I'd have 3 instances of the program up and be cycling through guys with two processing and one being set up. Everyone who volunteered was great but it was maddening chaos. Guys volunteering where it wasn't needed. Inconsistent quality of source pics. Colorizing or keeping B&W. No understanding the program. Organizing 27000 facegens. Naming conventions since there were 3 databases being used. It would have been awesome if a lot of the people who do facegens now were here in the beginning. Probably wouldn't be a bad idea to organize and update the entire historical facegen set. __________________ Give me league evolution with historical imports!!! OOTP MODS: Historical Face Gen Project, Spritze/Gambo Database, OOTP Stadium Chart and Ballpark Images, MLB Compiled Uniform & Logo Pack** available at... http://www.ootpmods.com

03-30-2016, 01:07 PM	#14
TribeFanInNC Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 4,019	Yep, I remember the project too. It was so fast and big. I know tried some, but it was really hard to do, especially earlier players. I was trying the '54 Indians and it was really hard to find good pictures. I was pretty unsatisfied with my efforts. Agree that an update could be in order. The biggest thing is just getting a consistent skin tone. You get everything from ghost white to bright orange. Nice work Mr. Strickert!

04-09-2016, 12:56 PM	#16
Bunktown Ballers All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,637 Infractions: 0/2 (3)	I've done some very nice Facegens...How do I link to share? Zip file would be great. I have the White Sox top 3 minor leagues complete