Starting a historical league with no previous stats question..

BorgPokerPro · 03-04-2017, 04:30 PM

I have gone back and forth and finally figured out what I want to do. I want to start in 1980 (With the actual correct rosters for 1980). Have it to where each year the new players to the league come into the league on the team they came into the league in the history of baseball. So I WONT be using older players coming into the league. Just the ones who were on a team in 1980 and those who came after. That I can setup no problem. HOWEVER the one problem I still seem to have is I want to have it to where its like no stats or records, or anything existed before 1980. I uncheck the box for import history yet still when the game loads up I click on a player and it shows their stats from previous years. Any idea if there is something else I need to do? Is this even doable? I want to have all records set from players who played in 1980 and forward

Reed · 03-04-2017, 07:20 PM

You can try going into "league functions" and on the bottom left hand side there are some options to delete the career stats for your league.

actionjackson · 03-04-2017, 07:27 PM

Thanks Reed. Been racking my silly brain on how to do this, and it was right there in front of me all along.

So BorgPokerPro, go to Game > Game Settings > League Settings > Functions > Reset Functions (left side of page) and hit one of the bottom three options "Erase MLB career stats...", "Erase all Career Stats...", or "Erase the entire league history". I would go with one of the stats options myself because you don't want to wipe out service time, which I think is what erasing the entire league history would do.

BorgPokerPro · 03-04-2017, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by actionjackson

Thanks Reed. Been racking my silly brain on how to do this, and it was right there in front of me all along.

So BorgPokerPro, go to Game > Game Settings > League Settings > Functions > Reset Functions (left side of page) and hit one of the bottom three options "Erase MLB career stats...", "Erase all Career Stats...", or "Erase the entire league history". I would go with one of the stats options myself because you don't want to wipe out service time, which I think is what erasing the entire league history would do.

That worked I love you guys lol. Its doesn't erase the hall of fame or previous champions but it did erase all career leaders and single season records and that is good enough for me

BorgPokerPro · 03-04-2017, 08:32 PM

actually erasing the entire thing got rid of that. Nice this game rocks

David Watts · 03-06-2017, 11:36 AM

Okay, time for me to come in and rain on the parade. Doing what Action suggested was possible when using 16 or earlier. But, with 17, keep in mind, if a player misses 1980(injury, minors etc), but played and accumulated stats prior to 1980, and then returns in 81 or later, this players actual stats will show up and become part of your league records.

Example---For this example lets use Frank Tanana in name only. Let's make believe that for some reason Frank Tanana missed the entire 1980 season. Let's also make believe that Frank Tanana returns to baseball in 1981. Here is what's going to happen in your league. You create your historical league and erase all stats/history. Everyone is now starting fresh as if baseball just began in 1980. But, Frank Tanana, much like Eli of Three Dog Night fame is coming. So, you play through 1980 and proceed to 1981. Frank Tanana returns, but problem is, Frank is going to return with all his stats as well. Tanana won 91 MLB games prior to 1980. He will have those 91 wins in your league as well. Tanana struckout 1120 batters prior to 1980. He will have those 1120 strikeouts in your league as well. Your career leaderboard will be ruled by Frank Tanana.

Thought I should warn you so you don't find out the hard way after playing an entire season. Prior versions allowed erasing all history and starting fresh(Markus said it was possible due to a bug). I think what happened in the past was, a player like the make believe Tanana above would never return if you were to start your league in 80 and he just happened to miss that season. Markus fixed this for 17, but since the game has now way of knowing you erased history to start fresh, the fix makes it so players return full statted. Markus did say, for 18 he may be able to let us choose whether we want players to return or not......or in otherwords use the prior versions bug. I hope so.

Hope this makes sense.

actionjackson · 03-06-2017, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by David Watts

Okay, time for me to come in and rain on the parade. Doing what Action suggested was possible when using 16 or earlier. But, with 17, keep in mind, if a player misses 1980(injury, minors etc), but played and accumulated stats prior to 1980, and then returns in 81 or later, this players actual stats will show up and become part of your league records.

Example---For this example lets use Frank Tanana in name only. Let's make believe that for some reason Frank Tanana missed the entire 1980 season. Let's also make believe that Frank Tanana returns to baseball in 1981. Here is what's going to happen in your league. You create your historical league and erase all stats/history. Everyone is now starting fresh as if baseball just began in 1980. But, Frank Tanana, much like Eli of Three Dog Night fame is coming. So, you play through 1980 and proceed to 1981. Frank Tanana returns, but problem is, Frank is going to return with all his stats as well. Tanana won 91 MLB games prior to 1980. He will have those 91 wins in your league as well. Tanana struckout 1120 batters prior to 1980. He will have those 1120 strikeouts in your league as well. Your career leaderboard will be ruled by Frank Tanana.

Thought I should warn you so you don't find out the hard way after playing an entire season. Prior versions allowed erasing all history and starting fresh(Markus said it was possible due to a bug). I think what happened in the past was, a player like the make believe Tanana above would never return if you were to start your league in 80 and he just happened to miss that season. Markus fixed this for 17, but since the game has now way of knowing you erased history to start fresh, the fix makes it so players return full statted. Markus did say, for 18 he may be able to let us choose whether we want players to return or not......or in otherwords use the prior versions bug. I hope so.

Hope this makes sense.

Thank you David Watts. I guess that's another reason why I play with Neutralized Stats. There are none of these annoying gaps to contend with. I know sometimes pitchers come in as position players or vice versa, but Neutralized Stats can "neuter" this issue.

David Watts · 03-06-2017, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by actionjackson

Thank you David Watts. I guess that's another reason why I play with Neutralized Stats. There are none of these annoying gaps to contend with. I know sometimes pitchers come in as position players or vice versa, but Neutralized Stats can "neuter" this issue.

Been a long time since it was discussed, but didn't 17's neutralized stats move away from the practice of filling in gap years? I thought I remember you and Spritze discussing that very thing.

actionjackson · 03-06-2017, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by David Watts

Been a long time since it was discussed, but didn't 17's neutralized stats move away from the practice of filling in gap years? I thought I remember you and Spritze discussing that very thing.

To be honest I don't remember, but that would suck hugely because that is one of the big purposes of Neutralized Stats: To fill in the gaps.

Just another reason for me to stick with 16.

David Watts · 03-06-2017, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by actionjackson

To be honest I don't remember, but that would suck hugely because that is one of the big purposes of Neutralized Stats: To fill in the gaps.

Just another reason for me to stick with 16.

Yeah, I could be remembering things wrong, but swear I remember that conversation. Ugh, what did I have for lunch?

actionjackson · 03-06-2017, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by David Watts

Yeah, I could be remembering things wrong, but swear I remember that conversation. Ugh, what did I have for lunch?

I think I'm gonna leaf through the historical database thread in the Bug Reports Section because that's where any such conversation will be.

actionjackson · 03-06-2017, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by actionjackson

I think I'm gonna leaf through the historical database thread in the Bug Reports Section because that's where any such conversation will be.

I think what you're remembering is that no neutralized hitting stats were given to pitchers who had zero lifetime AB. This order came from on high, and was beyond Spritze's control. If that's all it is, I'm OK with it because it's kind of hard to build up a stat profile from a zero sample.

03-04-2017, 04:30 PM	#1
BorgPokerPro Minors (Single A) Join Date: Oct 2016 Posts: 52	Starting a historical league with no previous stats question.. I have gone back and forth and finally figured out what I want to do. I want to start in 1980 (With the actual correct rosters for 1980). Have it to where each year the new players to the league come into the league on the team they came into the league in the history of baseball. So I WONT be using older players coming into the league. Just the ones who were on a team in 1980 and those who came after. That I can setup no problem. HOWEVER the one problem I still seem to have is I want to have it to where its like no stats or records, or anything existed before 1980. I uncheck the box for import history yet still when the game loads up I click on a player and it shows their stats from previous years. Any idea if there is something else I need to do? Is this even doable? I want to have all records set from players who played in 1980 and forward

03-04-2017, 07:27 PM	#3
actionjackson Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 6,181	Thanks Reed. Been racking my silly brain on how to do this, and it was right there in front of me all along. So BorgPokerPro, go to Game > Game Settings > League Settings > Functions > Reset Functions (left side of page) and hit one of the bottom three options "Erase MLB career stats...", "Erase all Career Stats...", or "Erase the entire league history". I would go with one of the stats options myself because you don't want to wipe out service time, which I think is what erasing the entire league history would do. Last edited by actionjackson; 03-04-2017 at 07:56 PM.

03-04-2017, 07:20 PM	#2
Reed Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 2,371	You can try going into "league functions" and on the bottom left hand side there are some options to delete the career stats for your league.

03-04-2017, 08:32 PM	#5
BorgPokerPro Minors (Single A) Join Date: Oct 2016 Posts: 52	actually erasing the entire thing got rid of that. Nice this game rocks

03-06-2017, 11:36 AM	#6
David Watts Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Looking for a place called Leehofooks Posts: 10,007 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	Okay, time for me to come in and rain on the parade. Doing what Action suggested was possible when using 16 or earlier. But, with 17, keep in mind, if a player misses 1980(injury, minors etc), but played and accumulated stats prior to 1980, and then returns in 81 or later, this players actual stats will show up and become part of your league records. Example---For this example lets use Frank Tanana in name only. Let's make believe that for some reason Frank Tanana missed the entire 1980 season. Let's also make believe that Frank Tanana returns to baseball in 1981. Here is what's going to happen in your league. You create your historical league and erase all stats/history. Everyone is now starting fresh as if baseball just began in 1980. But, Frank Tanana, much like Eli of Three Dog Night fame is coming. So, you play through 1980 and proceed to 1981. Frank Tanana returns, but problem is, Frank is going to return with all his stats as well. Tanana won 91 MLB games prior to 1980. He will have those 91 wins in your league as well. Tanana struckout 1120 batters prior to 1980. He will have those 1120 strikeouts in your league as well. Your career leaderboard will be ruled by Frank Tanana. Thought I should warn you so you don't find out the hard way after playing an entire season. Prior versions allowed erasing all history and starting fresh(Markus said it was possible due to a bug). I think what happened in the past was, a player like the make believe Tanana above would never return if you were to start your league in 80 and he just happened to miss that season. Markus fixed this for 17, but since the game has now way of knowing you erased history to start fresh, the fix makes it so players return full statted. Markus did say, for 18 he may be able to let us choose whether we want players to return or not......or in otherwords use the prior versions bug. I hope so. Hope this makes sense.