Super teams.......

Cobra Mgr · 02-24-2017, 12:39 PM

1998 Minnesota Twins

1B John Olerud
2B Jeff Bagwell
3B Eduardo Perez
SS Chipper Jones
RF Albert Belle
CF Ken Griffey, Jr
LF Barry Bonds
DH Rusty Greer

That's about 5 perennial MVP's on one team.

EDIT: I wrote this to see if anyone else had examples of a super all-star team coming together like this through your simulations.

RchW · 02-24-2017, 01:23 PM

Have you got the right "B". Bagwell never played 2B. Did you mean Biggio?

Cobra Mgr · 02-24-2017, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by RchW

Have you got the right "B". Bagwell never played 2B. Did you mean Biggio?

For some reason, it has had Bagwell as a 2B from the start. I went in & edited it to try & force him to 1st w/o upsetting the computer's "plans" for the season. Hasn't worked. From the Yanks, to the Marlins & now to the Twins, he stays @ 2nd. BTW, I forgot to mention Carlos Delgado as the catcher. In the future, I'm going to try & fix some of these errors when the players get drafted.

TribeFanInNC · 02-24-2017, 03:08 PM

Carlos Delgado was actually a catcher in the minors and even played 2 games in MLB. Though yeah obviously he didn't stick there.

Bagwell played 3B in the minors. Not sure where 2B came from. Weird.

Obviously that team is crazy good.

Cobra Mgr · 02-24-2017, 03:21 PM

Crap. Just looked at their bench.

C Bobby Bonilla
2B Mike Greenwell
SS Shawon Dunston
RF David Justice

I'm going to have to do something about what teams spend the most money. Minny has gotten out of whack.

actionjackson · 03-01-2017, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cobra Mgr

1998 Minnesota Twins

1B John Olerud
2B Jeff Bagwell
3B Eduardo Perez
SS Chipper Jones
RF Albert Belle
CF Ken Griffey, Jr
LF Barry Bonds
DH Rusty Greer

That's about 5 perennial MVP's on one team.

EDIT: I wrote this to see if anyone else had examples of a super all-star team coming together like this through your simulations.

Do you play with recalc or just with player development? I ask because that could be where Bagwell at 2B and Delgado at C, and Chipper Jones at SS are coming from. It's like the game "doesn't get the memo" to switch them to 1B, 1B and 3B respectively when the right time comes.

actionjackson · 03-01-2017, 05:40 PM

I'm not sure how you're getting such a super team in your league. The "superest" team I've had so far in my 45 year random debut historical league is the 1914 Brooklyn Robins, who went 109-53, with an expected record (based on run differential) of 112-50 (I use a 162 game schedule every year, and have since I started this league in 1901). They scored 774 runs and allowed 495, and this is in a run environment based on the 1984 MLB season (I base my league totals off of that season for every season I play in this league). Their main strength was their five man starting staff (strategies also based off of 1984), and the fact that only five different starters made starts despite injuries being set to "High (Modern Day Realistic)" in this dynasty. Here are the players who had 4.0 WAR or higher on that team and some of their stats.

3B Bob Meusel: .307/.333/.536/.869, 148 wRC+, 28 HR, 110 RBI, 103 R
C Pat Donahue: .253/.344/.423/.767, 115 wRC+, 18 HR, 74 RBI, 64 R
SP Kelvim Escobar: 34 GS, 21-10, 2.62 ERA, 2.78 FIP, 214 K
SP Don Drysdale: 34 GS, 18-8, 3.06 ERA, 2.89 FIP
SP Allie Reynolds: 33 GS, 17-12, 2.77 ERA, 2.93 FIP, 219 K
SP Brian Holman: 31 GS, 19-6, 2.12 ERA, 3.09 FIP
SP Frank Viola: 30 GS, 20-8, 3.21 ERA, 3.17 FIP

As you can see, there are some good names there. Drysdale's a RL HoFer, but not exactly a collection that would make you go "Oooh...Super Team!". Yet, they're the best team I've seen yet, and they didn't manage to win the World Series in the annual crapshoot playoffs.

wallewalls · 03-01-2017, 07:16 PM

In my yankees save I had a super team because of the money that they have. I had Trout and Harper on the same team. Sonny Gray and Jose Fernandez (RIP) as the anchors of the staff. It was a few years ago (in game) now so I don't remember the rest but yeah the team was stacked had 120 wins and won the championship. Very fun time though.

02-24-2017, 12:39 PM	#1
Cobra Mgr Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Parts unknown Posts: 9,216	Super teams....... 1998 Minnesota Twins 1B John Olerud 2B Jeff Bagwell 3B Eduardo Perez SS Chipper Jones RF Albert Belle CF Ken Griffey, Jr LF Barry Bonds DH Rusty Greer That's about 5 perennial MVP's on one team. EDIT: I wrote this to see if anyone else had examples of a super all-star team coming together like this through your simulations. __________________ If a man is guilty 4 what goes on inside of his mind, then let me get the electric chair 4 all my future crimes. - Prince Batdance June 7, 1958 - Apr 21, 2016 Don't fall for the spin Last edited by Cobra Mgr; 02-24-2017 at 02:45 PM.

02-24-2017, 01:23 PM	#2
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02-24-2017, 03:21 PM	#5
Cobra Mgr Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Parts unknown Posts: 9,216	Crap. Just looked at their bench. C Bobby Bonilla 2B Mike Greenwell SS Shawon Dunston RF David Justice I'm going to have to do something about what teams spend the most money. Minny has gotten out of whack. __________________ If a man is guilty 4 what goes on inside of his mind, then let me get the electric chair 4 all my future crimes. - Prince Batdance June 7, 1958 - Apr 21, 2016 Don't fall for the spin

02-24-2017, 03:08 PM	#4
TribeFanInNC Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 4,019	Carlos Delgado was actually a catcher in the minors and even played 2 games in MLB. Though yeah obviously he didn't stick there. Bagwell played 3B in the minors. Not sure where 2B came from. Weird. Obviously that team is crazy good.

03-01-2017, 05:40 PM	#7
actionjackson Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 6,179	I'm not sure how you're getting such a super team in your league. The "superest" team I've had so far in my 45 year random debut historical league is the 1914 Brooklyn Robins, who went 109-53, with an expected record (based on run differential) of 112-50 (I use a 162 game schedule every year, and have since I started this league in 1901). They scored 774 runs and allowed 495, and this is in a run environment based on the 1984 MLB season (I base my league totals off of that season for every season I play in this league). Their main strength was their five man starting staff (strategies also based off of 1984), and the fact that only five different starters made starts despite injuries being set to "High (Modern Day Realistic)" in this dynasty. Here are the players who had 4.0 WAR or higher on that team and some of their stats. 3B Bob Meusel: .307/.333/.536/.869, 148 wRC+, 28 HR, 110 RBI, 103 R C Pat Donahue: .253/.344/.423/.767, 115 wRC+, 18 HR, 74 RBI, 64 R SP Kelvim Escobar: 34 GS, 21-10, 2.62 ERA, 2.78 FIP, 214 K SP Don Drysdale: 34 GS, 18-8, 3.06 ERA, 2.89 FIP SP Allie Reynolds: 33 GS, 17-12, 2.77 ERA, 2.93 FIP, 219 K SP Brian Holman: 31 GS, 19-6, 2.12 ERA, 3.09 FIP SP Frank Viola: 30 GS, 20-8, 3.21 ERA, 3.17 FIP As you can see, there are some good names there. Drysdale's a RL HoFer, but not exactly a collection that would make you go "Oooh...Super Team!". Yet, they're the best team I've seen yet, and they didn't manage to win the World Series in the annual crapshoot playoffs.

03-01-2017, 07:16 PM	#8
wallewalls All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 774 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	In my yankees save I had a super team because of the money that they have. I had Trout and Harper on the same team. Sonny Gray and Jose Fernandez (RIP) as the anchors of the staff. It was a few years ago (in game) now so I don't remember the rest but yeah the team was stacked had 120 wins and won the championship. Very fun time though.