Roster Adjustments Due to Real Life Player Deaths

[jpeters1734]

Originally Posted by RchW

The OP and the original title which was changed were inappropriate in their timing with respect to the just announced deaths yesterday. If Padreman had waited a day or two I would not have objected. I have no issues with deaths being represented in game. This thread, how it was posted was in very bad taste and I'll continue to say that for as long as dismissive posts continue to come in.

The original post acknowledged it was wrong. I agreed with that and proposed a remedy which unfortunately was not done. C'est la vie.

Oh, I guess I didn't see the original title. I think there's two topics being discussed in this thread.

I think we have the freedom to discuss what's on our mind when we want to. Its a fresh topic on all our minds. It's not like we're posting this thread on his family's Facebook wall.

The other topic is that of player deaths in game. Abrupt ends to careers outside of a game is a part of baseball and can be simulated. If "died in car crash" to too disturbing then "sustained career ending injuries in car crash" can be used.

[RchW]

Originally Posted by jpeters1734

Oh, I guess I didn't see the original title. I think there's two topics being discussed in this thread.

I think we have the freedom to discuss what's on our mind when we want to. Its a fresh topic on all our minds. It's not like we're posting this thread on his family's Facebook wall.

The other topic is that of player deaths in game. Abrupt ends to careers outside of a game is a part of baseball and can be simulated. If "died in car crash" to too disturbing then "sustained career ending injuries in car crash" can be used.

You are arguing a point never made. Why? I only object to the manner timing and inappropriate forum used to create this thread. The rest of it is irrelevant. No argument about OOTP the game was made. The carry on now looks like posturing to me.

[jpeters1734]

Originally Posted by RchW

You are arguing a point never made. Why? I only object to the manner timing and inappropriate forum used to create this thread. The rest of it is irrelevant. No argument about OOTP the game was made. The carry on now looks like posturing to me.

Sorry the second point wasn't directed at you. I was addressing the thread as a whole

[Déjà Bru]

Originally Posted by BIG17EASY

Appropriate or not, I'm not sure why this needed to be brought up again. We had the same discussion/argument a few months ago when Jose Fernandez passed away, both in terms of how the game should handle it and appropriateness for discussion. Nothing has changed since then and I suspect it's not going to any time soon. So maybe we can just let this go?

This. Rich is right and Padreman apologized in a way, so why not let it be now.

More important is this insight that just occurred to me as I was reading some posts above. I've often wondered why Markus was reluctant to allow for death in his game, and I assumed that maybe it was because it was a downer or some personal aversion.

But my new thought is this: Most people play with MLB rosters right out of the box, either current or historical, correct? I think that's what Markus says; fictional players are a sizeable group but still a minority.

OK, say Markus puts death in the game and someone notable, or any real player for that matter, "dies"? Isn't that a bit creepy if you are that notable person or know the person? Considering that Markus makes much of his bread and butter by associating with MLB and the Players Association, I can see this being a bit awkward.

Am I over-thinking this?

[jpeters1734]

Originally Posted by Déjà Bru

This. Rich is right and Padreman apologized in a way, so why not let it be now.

More important is this insight that just occurred to me as I was reading some posts above. I've often wondered why Markus was reluctant to allow for death in his game, and I assumed that maybe it was because it was a downer or some personal aversion.

But my new thought is this: Most people play with MLB rosters right out of the box, either current or historical, correct? I think that's what Markus says; fictional players are a sizeable group but still a minority.

OK, say Markus puts death in the game and someone notable, or any real player for that matter, "dies"? Isn't that a bit creepy if you are that notable person or know the person? Considering that Markus makes much of his bread and butter by associating with MLB and the Players Association, I can see this being a bit awkward.

Am I over-thinking this?

If he's concerned about MLB issues, then a modified storylines file can be used for MLB games similar to how ped suspensions are off. But i see no reason to not have it on in fictionals. It's simple to do really. All it takes is a cei storyline

[Reggie]

Originally Posted by jpeters1734

If he's concerned about MLB issues, then a modified storylines file can be used for MLB games similar to how ped suspensions are off. But i see no reason to not have it on in fictionals. It's simple to do really. All it takes is a cei storyline

Aren't CEI already in the game?

[jpeters1734]

Originally Posted by Reggie

Aren't CEI already in the game?

Yes... but a player running in to a wall mid game and being out for his career is not the same thing is it?

[SaoMagnifico]

Originally Posted by jpeters1734

Oh, I guess I didn't see the original title. I think there's two topics being discussed in this thread.

I think we have the freedom to discuss what's on our mind when we want to. Its a fresh topic on all our minds. It's not like we're posting this thread on his family's Facebook wall.

The other topic is that of player deaths in game. Abrupt ends to careers outside of a game is a part of baseball and can be simulated. If "died in car crash" to too disturbing then "sustained career ending injuries in car crash" can be used.

It's possible to edit the default_storylines.xml file and add new storylines for player deaths (basically the same coding as players retiring, although I think it has to be during the off-season to work properly). But I don't expect it to be introduced into a future stock version of OOTP, one for licensing reasons and two because it is kind of a morbid element.