Customize historical mode?

lightgrenade07 · 12-18-2016, 03:32 AM

Is it possible to edit certain files to customize the historical mode? Like, say I want to go into historical mode but have teams set up in different cities (but without having to do everything manually one year at a time like in custom mode). Is there a way to achieve that?

thehef · 12-18-2016, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by lightgrenade07

Is it possible to edit certain files to customize the historical mode? Like, say I want to go into historical mode but have teams set up in different cities (but without having to do everything manually one year at a time like in custom mode). Is there a way to achieve that?

I haven't tried with version 17, but I do know in previous versions you could edit the teams.csv file (that's found in your stats folder) to change team name or park. I never tried editing anything else, but I'm sure there were other values that could be changed.

If you are importing players to their actual team, then one value you would not want to change is either teamID or franchID because one fo those (I forget which) controls to what team players are imported... And there are certain things in historical mode that are hard-coded, so you would not be able to, for example, add the PCL into the file in order to make it a 3rd major league. OOTP would ignore that. (Again, all of this is based upon my experience with versions of OOTP prior to 17.)

If you are going to try this, be sure to 1) make a backup of your teams.csv file (copy & rename it something like teams_original.csv), 2) try it out on a test league first, and 2) report back to let us know how it goes

Good luck!

sprague · 12-18-2016, 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by thehef

I haven't tried with version 17, but I do know in previous versions you could edit the teams.csv file (that's found in your stats folder) to change team name or park. I never tried editing anything else, but I'm sure there were other values that could be changed.

If you are importing players to their actual team, then one value you would not want to change is either teamID or franchID because one fo those (I forget which) controls to what team players are imported... And there are certain things in historical mode that are hard-coded, so you would not be able to, for example, add the PCL into the file in order to make it a 3rd major league. OOTP would ignore that. (Again, all of this is based upon my experience with versions of OOTP prior to 17.)

If you are going to try this, be sure to 1) make a backup of your teams.csv file (copy & rename it something like teams_original.csv), 2) try it out on a test league first, and 2) report back to let us know how it goes

Good luck!

No cvs files anymore. Only one big db. Much harder to try to edit now.

thehef · 12-18-2016, 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by sprague

No cvs files anymore. Only one big db. Much harder to try to edit now.

The csv files are still there. Are you saying that they are no longer used by OOTP?

thehef · 12-18-2016, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by sprague

No cvs files anymore. Only one big db. Much harder to try to edit now.

I just did a quick test, renaming all of the parks 1901 that had I or II or III in the name. It did not work, so the above from Sprague is correct.

Very unfortunate, as this was one of my favorite things to do. That is, to get rid of those roman numerals in the ballpark names. I mean, it's ridiculous to see in the play-by-play text, "Welcome to South End Grounds III." Or another favorite: "Sportsman's Park IV/Busch Stadium II." (Don't we all have fond memories of that ballpark?)

I hate it when OOTP takes away flexibility. Boo.

lightgrenade07 · 12-24-2016, 02:56 AM

I've had no luck with the odb files either. Boo!

Spritze · 12-24-2016, 01:23 PM

odb files are not edible nor are they editable. Might as well wish for one as the other.

mitchkenn · 12-24-2016, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Spritze

odb files are not edible nor are they editable. Might as well wish for one as the other.

darn.

NoOne · 12-24-2016, 04:19 PM

it's just read only? what about opening, "saving as" and then editting and re-saving as read-only. as long as you can return it to the state you got it in, all is good.

curiousity nearly piqued

if it's against the eula... meh.. all hypothetical in nature anyway

thehef · 12-24-2016, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by NoOne

it's just read only? what about opening, "saving as" and then editting and re-saving as read-only. as long as you can return it to the state you got it in, all is good.

You'd need a program that opens and allows you to edit odb files. I don't believe those exist outside of the OOTP developer world. I could be wrong.

Spritze · 12-24-2016, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by thehef

You'd need a program that opens and allows you to edit odb files. I don't believe those exist outside of the OOTP developer world. I could be wrong.

Wrong is not what you are in this instance. Actually not even OOTP fellas can edit them. They change the source files and recompile the ODB.

NoOne · 12-25-2016, 06:06 PM

this is an apache's opendocument databas file (odb) ?

mitchkenn · 12-25-2016, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by thehef

I just did a quick test, renaming all of the parks 1901 that had I or II or III in the name. It did not work, so the above from Sprague is correct.

Very unfortunate, as this was one of my favorite things to do. That is, to get rid of those roman numerals in the ballpark names. I mean, it's ridiculous to see in the play-by-play text, "Welcome to South End Grounds III." Or another favorite: "Sportsman's Park IV/Busch Stadium II." (Don't we all have fond memories of that ballpark?)

I hate it when OOTP takes away flexibility. Boo.

you can edit the ball park names when you go: edit finances, then edit ballpark. Tedious to do each one at a time. But it allows you to get to minors and well as ML parks.

Spritze · 12-26-2016, 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by noone

this is an apache's opendocument databas file (odb) ?

no why would you think that? They just use the same file extension but that means nothing and (before you ask) native americans have nothing to do with this either.

bwburke94 · 12-26-2016, 04:56 AM

A bit weird to use such a common extension for something completely different, but it certainly happens.

And the .odb extension long predates modern OpenOffice anyway.

lightgrenade07 · 12-28-2016, 06:22 PM

Damn shame. I'll go back a version or two and enjoy my fictional historical world then, I guess, and maybe export to 17 when I reach 2005-ish.

12-18-2016, 03:32 AM	#1
lightgrenade07 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: SoCal, for now Posts: 232	Customize historical mode? Is it possible to edit certain files to customize the historical mode? Like, say I want to go into historical mode but have teams set up in different cities (but without having to do everything manually one year at a time like in custom mode). Is there a way to achieve that? __________________ SELL THE TEAM!

12-24-2016, 02:56 AM	#6
lightgrenade07 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: SoCal, for now Posts: 232	I've had no luck with the odb files either. Boo! __________________ SELL THE TEAM!

12-24-2016, 01:23 PM	#7
Spritze OOTP Historical Czar Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Bothell Wa Posts: 7,253	odb files are not edible nor are they editable. Might as well wish for one as the other. __________________ It's madness, madness, I tell you! For the love of God, don't do it! Last edited by Spritze; 12-24-2016 at 01:46 PM.

12-28-2016, 06:22 PM	#16
lightgrenade07 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: SoCal, for now Posts: 232	Damn shame. I'll go back a version or two and enjoy my fictional historical world then, I guess, and maybe export to 17 when I reach 2005-ish. __________________ SELL THE TEAM!

12-24-2016, 04:19 PM	#9
NoOne Banned Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 7,273 Infractions: 0/1 (3)	it's just read only? what about opening, "saving as" and then editting and re-saving as read-only. as long as you can return it to the state you got it in, all is good. curiousity nearly piqued if it's against the eula... meh.. all hypothetical in nature anyway

12-25-2016, 06:06 PM	#12
NoOne Banned Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 7,273 Infractions: 0/1 (3)	this is an apache's opendocument databas file (odb) ?

12-26-2016, 04:56 AM	#15
bwburke94 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Belchertown, MA, USA Posts: 4,507	A bit weird to use such a common extension for something completely different, but it certainly happens. And the .odb extension long predates modern OpenOffice anyway.