Confused?

BleedCubbieBlue12 · 12-08-2016, 12:38 PM

Hey all!

Only just started playing this game, and it looks amazing.

Being a die hard Cubs fan, of course, I chose to manage the Cubbies.

One main question I have is, where are all the Home Runs? In my first 14 games (7-7) in charge with a solid line up that won the World Series this year (Sorry guys, I'm still overwhelmed) I've had 4 home runs.

Batting averages are pretty darn low, with the highest being around the .280 mark.

Starting pitchers stats are pretty darn awful too. Arrieta with around a 5.20 ERA, Lester with around a 5.00 ERA.

Is there something I'm doing wrong you think? I've not had the chacne to scout through every feature and was wondering if there's something to kind of help them out a little?

Thanks in advance,

Nick.

Nwdcdude · 12-08-2016, 12:44 PM

This is kinda a small sample size to draw a conclusion of how your team should be performing.

As for your hitters, I would check the BABIP to if it is partially bad luck but .280 is nothing to scoff at.

For your pitchers, it could also be ERA or bad defense. May want to check the other stats for the guys such as BABIP, WAR, ERA+ to get a better idea and see what the defense stats (ZR, errors, etc) for how they are doing.

I'm still learning the game myself and have been playing around with it for about 5 months.

TomVeal · 12-08-2016, 01:08 PM

Anything can happen in a short series of games. Real life baseball is inherently "streaky", and so is OOTP. Be patient, and remember that the OOTP players are based on what was anticipated at the start of the 2016 season, not on what happened during the year.

Having said that, I, too, have observed that OOTP's Jake Arrieta never seems to have a period of dominance like his real life counterpart's.

bwburke94 · 12-09-2016, 08:24 AM

REALLY small sample size. Don't worry about it.

BleedCubbieBlue12 · 12-09-2016, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by bwburke94

REALLY small sample size. Don't worry about it.

Guessing by sample size you mean because I'd only played a handful of games?

TuckerDuckson · 12-09-2016, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by BleedCubbieBlue12

Guessing by sample size you mean because I'd only played a handful of games?

Yes that is the definition of a "Small Sample Size"

DJP53916 · 12-09-2016, 12:03 PM

Personally, I don't even begin to start worrying about stats until I have a month's worth of games in.

If you're still concerned, maybe look and see if any of your players have some lingering, nagging "day-to-day" injuries affecting their performance. Depending on your settings, you may or may not receive email updates to let you know.

BleedCubbieBlue12 · 12-09-2016, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DJP53916

Personally, I don't even begin to start worrying about stats until I have a month's worth of games in.

If you're still concerned, maybe look and see if any of your players have some lingering, nagging "day-to-day" injuries affecting their performance. Depending on your settings, you may or may not receive email updates to let you know.

Only person who had a day to day injury was Ben Zobrist, and he was only like that for a couple of days, with one of those days being a rest/travel day.

DJP53916 · 12-09-2016, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BleedCubbieBlue12

Only person who had a day to day injury was Ben Zobrist, and he was only like that for a couple of days, with one of those days being a rest/travel day.

Then I wouldn't worry too much. At least not until May.

If it's May and your key players still look mediocre, then I would be more concerned.

Not every season will play out well for you. There is some element of randomness involved. If you started a brand new season, you could just as easily start the year 11-3, or 4-10. It happens.

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BleedCubbieBlue12 · 12-09-2016, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DJP53916

Then I wouldn't worry too much. At least not until May.

If it's May and your key players still look mediocre, then I would be more concerned.

Not every season will play out well for you. There is some element of randomness involved. If you started a brand new season, you could just as easily start the year 11-3, or 4-10. It happens.

Ahh right.. makes sense I guess, just didn't expect to have such a bad record after around 30 games.

Thanks!

BigRed75 · 12-09-2016, 08:01 PM

Everything is magnified by the start of the year, because those are the only stats recorded. Mid-year slumps are better hidden by the stats surrounding them.

Like others have said, don't panic in April. The last thing you need is to be a Jim Bowden.

NoOne · 12-09-2016, 10:29 PM

Edit i had to put this first: "by the time you notice a slump, it's most likely too late to do anythign about it... and it's impossible to predict the less likely longer-term slumps"

i just had a SP stuff/mov/con of 90's / 70's / 70's put up ERA near 5 most of the year... got it down to 4.5's by the end. by july i did move him down in the rotation... by the end of the year he was 5th. rarely does that work out as well as it did for me... you should assume that if rated well (and all that goes into evaluating that - i.e. not a 200 fb and 75 cb that has high stuff), they will perform well. more often i drop an underperformer down for a lap around the rotation or 2... their more recent performances start to rebound and i bump them back up - they don't miss a start, but they may get 6+days off. more likely all this stuff doesn't help at all, and if he is good, you should running him out there every 5 days.

by the time you notice a slump, it's most likely too late to do anythign about it... and it's impossible to predict the less likely longer-term slumps.

it goes without saying i was quite surprised and it was not in his 7-9 year track record of excellence, lol... no ratings chagnes of note, either.

he then went on to start the next 2 months of the following year like crap... ended up with a 3.30 at the end. (figure other stats correlate to save space). this guy is a perennial cy young award winner better than most of not all of the real SP's in the game by ratings.... even he can have bad year(s). he either won the cy young the next year or was the runner-up... either way a great year more like his norm.

heck if you are speaking of a reliever you won't know for sure for 5-10 years and that's if his ratings remain the same or nearly.

you can't just go by the basic ratings.. pitch selection and other factors all need to be considered... if you want to get rid of someone due to performance, you need to be sure.... it's difficult enough to procure talent and retain it... it's rarely a good idea to cast it off.

e.g. i thought i had my replacement setup man... already 1 year in teh league before i traded for him. he was 'okay' and improved in year 2 with me. very strong setup #'s year 2... then inconsistency the next 3 years... even though 1 of them was an 'okay' year after recovering. so five years and only 2 good ones... i got rid of him but i am not 100% certain it's the right decision even with that much info.... 5 years on my team! 6 or 7 in the mlb total. everythign is relative.. this guy was a setup guy... a less important MR and i give more of a leash - 6era's can happen, no big deal. have reasonable expectations - not just normal but lower and upper limits of normal relative to role on your team.

he's still rated well, good personality, good pitch selctions, both strong.. slightly low control, but his bb/9 wasn't the cause of anythign bad.... i think there is some under-the-hood stuff that can influence overall success. ... OR it could just be really bad luck.

Mat · 12-10-2016, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by BleedCubbieBlue12

Ahh right.. makes sense I guess, just didn't expect to have such a bad record after around 30 games.

Thanks!

Since the game came out in May i have ran through the 2016 season 6 times. Only won the WS twice.

2 seasons were awful, Either SP's under performed or Batters hit under avg.
4 were pretty good and pretty much matched reality.

Just because you have a winning team, doesnt guarantee winning results. Each OOTP 'reality' will be sightly different. Especially with such small sample size.

BleedCubbieBlue12 · 12-10-2016, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mat

Since the game came out in May i have ran through the 2016 season 6 times. Only won the WS twice.

2 seasons were awful, Either SP's under performed or Batters hit under avg.
4 were pretty good and pretty much matched reality.

Just because you have a winning team, doesnt guarantee winning results. Each OOTP 'reality' will be sightly different. Especially with such small sample size.

Thanks man! I know, but it's so frustrating at times haha.

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12-08-2016, 12:38 PM	#1
BleedCubbieBlue12 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Cambridgeshire, England Posts: 21	Confused? Hey all! Only just started playing this game, and it looks amazing. Being a die hard Cubs fan, of course, I chose to manage the Cubbies. One main question I have is, where are all the Home Runs? In my first 14 games (7-7) in charge with a solid line up that won the World Series this year (Sorry guys, I'm still overwhelmed) I've had 4 home runs. Batting averages are pretty darn low, with the highest being around the .280 mark. Starting pitchers stats are pretty darn awful too. *Arrieta* with around a 5.20 ERA, Lester with around a 5.00 ERA. Is there something I'm doing wrong you think? I've not had the chacne to scout through every feature and was wondering if there's something to kind of help them out a little? Thanks in advance, Nick.

12-09-2016, 08:01 PM	#11
BigRed75 Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 2,430	Everything is magnified by the start of the year, because those are the only stats recorded. Mid-year slumps are better hidden by the stats surrounding them. Like others have said, don't panic in April. The last thing you need is to be a Jim Bowden. __________________ Mainline team SPTT team Was not a Snag fan...until I saw the fallout once he was gone and realized what a good job he was actually doing. - Ty Cobb

12-09-2016, 10:29 PM	#12
NoOne Banned Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 7,273 Infractions: 0/1 (3)	Edit i had to put this first: "by the time you notice a slump, it's most likely too late to do anythign about it... and it's impossible to predict the less likely longer-term slumps" i just had a SP stuff/mov/con of 90's / 70's / 70's put up ERA near 5 most of the year... got it down to 4.5's by the end. by july i did move him down in the rotation... by the end of the year he was 5th. rarely does that work out as well as it did for me... you should assume that if rated well (and all that goes into evaluating that - i.e. not a 200 fb and 75 cb that has high stuff), they will perform well. more often i drop an underperformer down for a lap around the rotation or 2... their more recent performances start to rebound and i bump them back up - they don't miss a start, but they may get 6+days off. more likely all this stuff doesn't help at all, and if he is good, you should running him out there every 5 days. by the time you notice a slump, it's most likely too late to do anythign about it... and it's impossible to predict the less likely longer-term slumps. it goes without saying i was quite surprised and it was not in his 7-9 year track record of excellence, lol... no ratings chagnes of note, either. he then went on to start the next 2 months of the following year like crap... ended up with a 3.30 at the end. (figure other stats correlate to save space). this guy is a perennial cy young award winner better than most of not all of the real SP's in the game by ratings.... even he can have bad year(s). he either won the cy young the next year or was the runner-up... either way a great year more like his norm. heck if you are speaking of a reliever you won't know for sure for 5-10 years and that's if his ratings remain the same or nearly. you can't just go by the basic ratings.. pitch selection and other factors all need to be considered... if you want to get rid of someone due to performance, you need to be sure.... it's difficult enough to procure talent and retain it... it's rarely a good idea to cast it off. e.g. i thought i had my replacement setup man... already 1 year in teh league before i traded for him. he was 'okay' and improved in year 2 with me. very strong setup #'s year 2... then inconsistency the next 3 years... even though 1 of them was an 'okay' year after recovering. so five years and only 2 good ones... i got rid of him but i am not 100% certain it's the right decision even with that much info.... 5 years on my team! 6 or 7 in the mlb total. everythign is relative.. this guy was a setup guy... a less important MR and i give more of a leash - 6era's can happen, no big deal. have reasonable expectations - not just normal but lower and upper limits of normal relative to role on your team. he's still rated well, good personality, good pitch selctions, both strong.. slightly low control, but his bb/9 wasn't the cause of anythign bad.... i think there is some under-the-hood stuff that can influence overall success. ... OR it could just be really bad luck. Last edited by NoOne; 12-09-2016 at 10:39 PM.

12-08-2016, 12:44 PM	#2
Nwdcdude Bat Boy Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 8	This is kinda a small sample size to draw a conclusion of how your team should be performing. As for your hitters, I would check the BABIP to if it is partially bad luck but .280 is nothing to scoff at. For your pitchers, it could also be ERA or bad defense. May want to check the other stats for the guys such as BABIP, WAR, ERA+ to get a better idea and see what the defense stats (ZR, errors, etc) for how they are doing. I'm still learning the game myself and have been playing around with it for about 5 months.

12-08-2016, 01:08 PM	#3
TomVeal All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Spanaway, Washington Posts: 1,242	Anything can happen in a short series of games. Real life baseball is inherently "streaky", and so is OOTP. Be patient, and remember that the OOTP players are based on what was anticipated at the start of the 2016 season, not on what happened during the year. Having said that, I, too, have observed that OOTP's Jake Arrieta never seems to have a period of dominance like his real life counterpart's.

12-09-2016, 08:24 AM	#4
bwburke94 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Belchertown, MA, USA Posts: 4,507	REALLY small sample size. Don't worry about it.

12-09-2016, 12:03 PM	#7
DJP53916 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 175	Personally, I don't even begin to start worrying about stats until I have a month's worth of games in. If you're still concerned, maybe look and see if any of your players have some lingering, nagging "day-to-day" injuries affecting their performance. Depending on your settings, you may or may not receive email updates to let you know.