Playoff Rotations

desertnomad · 12-07-2016, 02:39 PM

In OOTP18 can you guy make it so that with strict order, it's actually strict? I had Strasburg coming off injury with a snowflake so I had him 4th in my rotation. AI pitched him 2nd though, I guess because AI wanted to pitch the guy with the best ratings.

Thanks.

Le Grande Orange · 12-07-2016, 04:56 PM

Something to keep in mind here is the post-season schedule that OOTP uses. By default, I think it uses a sliding playoff schedule, wherein if all series of a round finish early, the start of the next round is advanced. This isn't how MLB actually does it, however; the start of the next round is fixed, and starts on the same date regardless of when the series in the previous round are completed.

The upshot of this is your pitchers may be getting fewer off days in OOTP than they might get in real life, depending on your game settings.

thehef · 12-07-2016, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Le Grande Orange

Something to keep in mind here is the post-season schedule that OOTP uses. By default, I think it uses a sliding playoff schedule, wherein if all series of a round finish early, the start of the next round is advanced. This isn't how MLB actually does it, however; the start of the next round is fixed, and starts on the same date regardless of when the series in the previous round are completed.

The upshot of this is your pitchers may be getting fewer off days in OOTP than they might get in real life, depending on your game settings.

This may not address the OP...

If you go to the Options Panel, bottom right under Schedule Settings, you can specify whether subsequent playoff series' are set with a fixed date or if they will depend upon the length of previous series'.

As far as I know - and LGO would write the bible on this - ever since MLB introduced and second round (the LCS' in 1969), the WS start date has been fixed... As for what minor leagues may have done throughout history, not sure. But if LGO doesn't know, I may see if I can research it!

Rain King · 12-07-2016, 05:13 PM

The best way I have found to make sure I get the starting pitcher I want for specific games is to use 7-day lineups.

RchW · 12-07-2016, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain King

The best way I have found to make sure I get the starting pitcher I want for specific games is to use 7-day lineups.

This is true. You can even use it to start a guy on short rest while maintaining your next SP on normal rest.

I wonder if the OP had 7-day LU on which is why Strasburg started?

AFAIK the playoff schedule would not affect strict order at all. Never has for me.

Le Grande Orange · 12-07-2016, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by thehef

This may not address the OP...

If you go to the Options Panel, bottom right under Schedule Settings, you can specify whether subsequent playoff series' are set with a fixed date or if they will depend upon the length of previous series'.

Not directly. But fewer off days will affect pitcher fatigue, and depending on the pitching order used, the result might be significant.

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Originally Posted by thehef

As far as I know - and LGO would write the bible on this - ever since MLB introduced and second round (the LCS' in 1969), the WS start date has been fixed...

Pretty much correct.

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Originally Posted by thehef

As for what minor leagues may have done throughout history, not sure. But if LGO doesn't know, I may see if I can research it!

The minors have always tended, as far as I'm aware, to minimize off days and travel. Back in the Junior World Series days, for example, a 3-4 or 4-5 rotation was used; in other words, only one off day for travel in a best-of-seven or best-of-nine series, respectively.

The minors currently nearly all use a fixed but abbreviated schedule (meaning as few off days as reasonably possible). They also tend to have a hard ending date, particularly for the lower levels (meaning if a series isn't concluded by a specified date, either the team ahead is declared champion, or the two clubs declared co-champions).

I've been keeping specific track of minor league post-season scheduling since 2010.

NoOne · 12-07-2016, 07:57 PM

it must not have been on strict order... you could test if "strict" will skip a player if below ~80%, ~50% recovered from last outing. i think it will pitch the guy even if tired, if i recall.

i haven't used this setting during hte regular season in quite some time, but i always switch to it during the playoffs. i make sure to re-align my rotation to their respective fatigue levels - 7-day lineups is another way to accomplish the same result.

at the end of each series i repeat that process, if needed.

i've yet to see it not go in order in recent memory. (nearly certain fatigue% doesn't matter, but if not that would explain how a skip could occur.)

Dyzalot · 12-07-2016, 08:08 PM

I just recently had a playoffs where in the first round after winning the division with the settings of "strict order occasionally use highest rested" the AI skipped to the number 4 guy for game 3 even though both pitchers had been off for over a week since the end of the regular season. I have no idea why. It was the first time I saw it do that.

12-07-2016, 02:39 PM	#1
desertnomad Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jan 2016 Posts: 47	Playoff Rotations In OOTP18 can you guy make it so that with strict order, it's actually strict? I had Strasburg coming off injury with a snowflake so I had him 4th in my rotation. AI pitched him 2nd though, I guess because AI wanted to pitch the guy with the best ratings. Thanks.

12-07-2016, 04:56 PM	#2
Le Grande Orange Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Up There Posts: 15,644	Something to keep in mind here is the post-season schedule that OOTP uses. By default, I think it uses a sliding playoff schedule, wherein if all series of a round finish early, the start of the next round is advanced. This isn't how MLB actually does it, however; the start of the next round is fixed, and starts on the same date regardless of when the series in the previous round are completed. The upshot of this is your pitchers may be getting fewer off days in OOTP than they might get in real life, depending on your game settings.

12-07-2016, 05:13 PM	#4
Rain King Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 3,271	The best way I have found to make sure I get the starting pitcher I want for specific games is to use 7-day lineups.

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NoOne Banned Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 7,273 Infractions: 0/1 (3)	it must not have been on strict order... you could test if "strict" will skip a player if below ~80%, ~50% recovered from last outing. i think it will pitch the guy even if tired, if i recall. i haven't used this setting during hte regular season in quite some time, but i always switch to it during the playoffs. i make sure to re-align my rotation to their respective fatigue levels - 7-day lineups is another way to accomplish the same result. at the end of each series i repeat that process, if needed. i've yet to see it not go in order in recent memory. (nearly certain fatigue% doesn't matter, but if not that would explain how a skip could occur.)

12-07-2016, 08:08 PM	#8
Dyzalot All Star Starter Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,735	I just recently had a playoffs where in the first round after winning the division with the settings of "strict order occasionally use highest rested" the AI skipped to the number 4 guy for game 3 even though both pitchers had been off for over a week since the end of the regular season. I have no idea why. It was the first time I saw it do that.