Flash Drive

Kent814 · 11-18-2016, 06:04 PM

Is it possible to put a fully licensed and installed version of ootp on a flash drive

curt · 11-18-2016, 06:22 PM

I would be interested in the answer to this. Anyone know. Would it be faster/slower?

TheMaus2 · 11-18-2016, 07:15 PM

It would have to be run on a live USB. So, Linux. Some Linux enviroments have live USB creators. Boot up your CPU from the USB, and try it. I consider myself semi-computer literate so the instructions maybe different, but it's worth a try.

P.S., it's not safe to torrent these things. Download it from the OFFICIAL site so you don't hit viruses.

eriqjaffe · 11-18-2016, 10:21 PM

Whether it runs or not, the relative slowness of flash storage would probably be noticeable, especially when the game does read/write operations (which, apparently, are less than they used to be)

Kent814 · 11-18-2016, 11:32 PM

But is there any way to do it on a physical flash drive?

TheMaus2 · 11-18-2016, 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kent814

But is there any way to do it on a physical flash drive?

?
Pls explain.

Kent814 · 11-19-2016, 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMaus2

?
Pls explain.

Like on those things you plug into the computer

NoOne · 11-19-2016, 02:01 AM

Possibly, but it's not portable, which i think is the goal?

you can only license a game 2 times? (pretty sure). so it can only work on 2 different comuters that you plug the flash drive into at best.

i'm not exactly sure on the specifics of how it's protected, but that is likely the info you need as far as what you can do with it, if installed to a flash drive.

Like others said, it will be much slower than a hdd or ssd. if news and tidbits like that are saved, that portion of hte read-write will actually be roughly the same as a hdd and faster if usb 3.0 (stil slower than ssd). the small fragmented bits of pieces move around faster when you don't have to deal with something mechanical like an hdd.

i suggest turning write cache off for things like a flash drive... that way when it says a read write operation is complete, you know the data isn't still in purgatory, and therefore possible to be lost in an event of power failure or anything that cuts off the game process (like ending the process or maybe even a crash). the "increased" speed you see with caching is not real. it's still writing just as slow in the background whether you see it or not. the file was merely small enough to load into the cache completely for the transfer.

so, wiht write-cache turned off for usb flash drives, you can ignore warnings about "safely" removing the device, because the data is fully written when the UI says it is completed.

TheMaus2 · 11-19-2016, 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Kent814

Like on those things you plug into the computer

You mean the thing I was just talking about?

eriqjaffe · 11-19-2016, 09:42 AM

To answer your original question, I don't think it's possible to have a portable installation of OOTP that you can run from whatever computer you happen to be at.

I believe it is possible to set a custom data path in-game so you could use the flash drive as the default storage location, which would at least save you the hassle of copying the league folder back and forth.

Kent814 · 11-19-2016, 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMaus2

You mean the thing I was just talking about?

I have no idea what a live USB is or what Linux is

TheMaus2 · 11-19-2016, 11:47 AM

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_t...d_use_Live_USB
Live USB Creator

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
Linux

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_USB
Live USB

Right Field · 11-23-2016, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Kent814

I have no idea what a live USB is or what Linux is

I think the only possible way to make the game portable on a usb stick is to put an entire operating system which has the game installed on the stick and then have whichever pc you are currently using boot from the stick. Sounds like a lot of work to me. This is basically what TheMAus2 is telling you. He's just not fully explaining just how much work this is. Of course, once you put the work into setting it up, it wouldn't be to bad from that point on, so long as changing boot order on the guest pc doesn't present problems with it's owner.

11-18-2016, 06:04 PM	#1
Kent814 All Star Reserve Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: San Diego Posts: 650	Flash Drive Is it possible to put a fully licensed and installed version of ootp on a flash drive

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TheMaus2 All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: The OOTP Forums. Always. Posts: 1,951	It would have to be run on a live USB. So, Linux. Some Linux enviroments have live USB creators. Boot up your CPU from the USB, and try it. I consider myself semi-computer literate so the instructions maybe different, but it's worth a try. P.S., it's not safe to torrent these things. Download it from the OFFICIAL site so you don't hit viruses. __________________ I write a monthly newsletter on the Food Baseball Association. I also listen to music no one's ever heard of in hopes of looking cool and alternative.

11-18-2016, 10:21 PM	#4
eriqjaffe Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2003 Location: Under The Christmas Fish Posts: 7,733	Whether it runs or not, the relative slowness of flash storage would probably be noticeable, especially when the game does read/write operations (which, apparently, are less than they used to be) __________________

11-19-2016, 02:01 AM	#8
NoOne Banned Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 7,273 Infractions: 0/1 (3)	Possibly, but it's not portable, which i think is the goal? you can only license a game 2 times? (pretty sure). so it can only work on 2 different comuters that you plug the flash drive into at best. i'm not exactly sure on the specifics of how it's protected, but that is likely the info you need as far as what you can do with it, if installed to a flash drive. Like others said, it will be much slower than a hdd or ssd. if news and tidbits like that are saved, that portion of hte read-write will actually be roughly the same as a hdd and faster if usb 3.0 (stil slower than ssd). the small fragmented bits of pieces move around faster when you don't have to deal with something mechanical like an hdd. i suggest turning write cache off for things like a flash drive... that way when it says a read write operation is complete, you know the data isn't still in purgatory, and therefore possible to be lost in an event of power failure or anything that cuts off the game process (like ending the process or maybe even a crash). the "increased" speed you see with caching is not real. it's still writing just as slow in the background whether you see it or not. the file was merely small enough to load into the cache completely for the transfer. so, wiht write-cache turned off for usb flash drives, you can ignore warnings about "safely" removing the device, because the data is fully written when the UI says it is completed. Last edited by NoOne; 11-19-2016 at 02:03 AM.

11-19-2016, 09:42 AM	#10
eriqjaffe Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2003 Location: Under The Christmas Fish Posts: 7,733	To answer your original question, I don't think it's possible to have a portable installation of OOTP that you can run from whatever computer you happen to be at. I believe it is possible to set a custom data path in-game so you could use the flash drive as the default storage location, which would at least save you the hassle of copying the league folder back and forth. __________________

11-18-2016, 06:22 PM	#2
curt Major Leagues Join Date: May 2013 Location: Winnipeg, Canada Posts: 479	I would be interested in the answer to this. Anyone know. Would it be faster/slower?

11-18-2016, 11:32 PM	#5
Kent814 All Star Reserve Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: San Diego Posts: 650	But is there any way to do it on a physical flash drive?

11-19-2016, 11:47 AM	#12
TheMaus2 All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: The OOTP Forums. Always. Posts: 1,951	https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_t...d_use_Live_USB Live USB Creator https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux Linux https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_USB Live USB __________________ I write a monthly newsletter on the Food Baseball Association. I also listen to music no one's ever heard of in hopes of looking cool and alternative.