Advanced Budget Questions: TO Buyout, Cash, and Projected Budget Room

Wooly · 11-04-2016, 05:38 PM

I am trying to find the best way to save money for the next season in my game, where I have a Team Option Buyout pending near the end of my season.

Scenario:
I am almost to the off-season in my game, just finished the WS, but have not advanced from there. I am still in year 2019.

I have a player with two Team Option years left on his salary (2020 and 2021) and I am planning on releasing him instead, so I will have to pay the Buyout. I would rather not pay the buyout, since some of it will go against my budget for next year, 2020, and I have specific reasons I don't want my 2020 budget to get any higher.

I have about 10 million left in Total Money Available this year (2019), with about 1m in Cash and 9m in Projected Budget Room.

Questions:
1) Total Money Available, what (if any) carries over to the next year? I believe only the Cash does, right?

2) Does any of the rest (Proj Budget Room) carry over to the next year, or does it all go back to the Owner?

3) If I try and trade this player, can I offer only my 1m Cash in a trade, or can I offer some of my 9m Proj Budget Room? Is that considered money you can trade, or just money you can use to sign players with?

3) How can I work a trade to avoid taking money away from 2020 from the Buyout? If I trade this player, I know the Buyout is paid by the new team, but in this case teams are not likely to go for a trade without me offering cash to offset. What I am wondering is if Proj Budget money doesn't carry over to 2020, AND I can offer it in a trade, I could possible trade this player and not affect my 2020 budget. Does that work? If Proj Budget money does carry over, this whole post is moot.

Wooly · 11-05-2016, 09:02 PM

Does anyone know if your Projected Budget Room carries over to the next years budget? Or, does only cash carry over?

Silfir · 11-05-2016, 11:04 PM

I think it's pretty much at the whim of the owner what the budget for each year is. I can't confirm even cash carries over to the next year - if your owner feels like buying a new yacht instead this year, that's what he's going to do. I've had long streaks of seasons where I earned 25+ million profits every year, but that didn't result in budget increases.

First I'd try and find out if the guy might have trade value after all; if so, there's always a chance a team will be willing to trade him for a league minimum player or a minor league prospect, perhaps as part of a larger deal. You can only offer cash in a deal, not "budget room", however.

Barring unexpected success in trade search, I'd just pay the buyout. I doubt it would affect your budget at all come next year.

NoOne · 11-07-2016, 01:54 AM

you only carry over what is set in the financial settings for max cash on hand, or something similar in name. default is 10 million.

it's a good idea not to do unlimited. i've seen some 'say' 30M is no problem and probably isn't... how high can you go before there is a problem? i can't say and it's a matter of opinion.

just figure after 20, 30+ years a good portion of the league can get ripe with cash. this will drastically increase average FA salaries.. (or extensions, having a brain fart at the moment.. cash on hand allows one to go over your budget's limitations and you end up with more bloated contracts than normal) so, less than 50M would keep most people happy about this concern.. but, i'd suggest leaving it at default of 10M.

not 100% sure on the rest, but alot of it you can simply open a trade and see without submitting it.

you don't start accruing player salary expense until the games are played. so, as long as get them off the books before then, you won't be responsible for any of it and the budget will adjust to show this. paying for a few games or even a couple months isn't too big of a deal if you don't need to space during the offseason... which does not sound like your situation...

you can always bite the bullet in other areas of your budget. don't spend in int'l ama fa, cut scouting or development etc etc.. you have older, more accurate scouting reports that 1 year of bad mlb scouting may not be a big deal. same goes for development... in some contexts dropping it for a short-term period is no big deal.

11-04-2016, 05:38 PM	#1
Wooly Bat Boy Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 11	Advanced Budget Questions: TO Buyout, Cash, and Projected Budget Room I am trying to find the best way to save money for the next season in my game, where I have a Team Option Buyout pending near the end of my season. Scenario: I am almost to the off-season in my game, just finished the WS, but have not advanced from there. I am still in year 2019. I have a player with two Team Option years left on his salary (2020 and 2021) and I am planning on releasing him instead, so I will have to pay the Buyout. I would rather not pay the buyout, since some of it will go against my budget for next year, 2020, and I have specific reasons I don't want my 2020 budget to get any higher. I have about 10 million left in Total Money Available this year (2019), with about 1m in Cash and 9m in Projected Budget Room. Questions: 1) Total Money Available, what (if any) carries over to the next year? I believe only the Cash does, right? 2) Does any of the rest (Proj Budget Room) carry over to the next year, or does it all go back to the Owner? 3) If I try and trade this player, can I offer only my 1m Cash in a trade, or can I offer some of my 9m Proj Budget Room? Is that considered money you can trade, or just money you can use to sign players with? 3) How can I work a trade to avoid taking money away from 2020 from the Buyout? If I trade this player, I know the Buyout is paid by the new team, but in this case teams are not likely to go for a trade without me offering cash to offset. What I am wondering is if Proj Budget money doesn't carry over to 2020, AND I can offer it in a trade, I could possible trade this player and not affect my 2020 budget. Does that work? If Proj Budget money does carry over, this whole post is moot.

11-07-2016, 01:54 AM	#4
NoOne Banned Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 7,273 Infractions: 0/1 (3)	you only carry over what is set in the financial settings for max cash on hand, or something similar in name. default is 10 million. it's a good idea not to do unlimited. i've seen some 'say' 30M is no problem and probably isn't... how high can you go before there is a problem? i can't say and it's a matter of opinion. just figure after 20, 30+ years a good portion of the league can get ripe with cash. this will drastically increase average FA salaries.. (or extensions, having a brain fart at the moment.. cash on hand allows one to go over your budget's limitations and you end up with more bloated contracts than normal) so, less than 50M would keep most people happy about this concern.. but, i'd suggest leaving it at default of 10M. not 100% sure on the rest, but alot of it you can simply open a trade and see without submitting it. you don't start accruing player salary expense until the games are played. so, as long as get them off the books before then, you won't be responsible for any of it and the budget will adjust to show this. paying for a few games or even a couple months isn't too big of a deal if you don't need to space during the offseason... which does not sound like your situation... you can always bite the bullet in other areas of your budget. don't spend in int'l ama fa, cut scouting or development etc etc.. you have older, more accurate scouting reports that 1 year of bad mlb scouting may not be a big deal. same goes for development... in some contexts dropping it for a short-term period is no big deal. Last edited by NoOne; 11-07-2016 at 02:01 AM.

11-05-2016, 09:02 PM	#2
Wooly Bat Boy Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 11	Does anyone know if your Projected Budget Room carries over to the next years budget? Or, does only cash carry over?

11-05-2016, 11:04 PM	#3
Silfir Minors (Double A) Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 137	I think it's pretty much at the whim of the owner what the budget for each year is. I can't confirm even cash carries over to the next year - if your owner feels like buying a new yacht instead this year, that's what he's going to do. I've had long streaks of seasons where I earned 25+ million profits every year, but that didn't result in budget increases. First I'd try and find out if the guy might have trade value after all; if so, there's always a chance a team will be willing to trade him for a league minimum player or a minor league prospect, perhaps as part of a larger deal. You can only offer cash in a deal, not "budget room", however. Barring unexpected success in trade search, I'd just pay the buyout. I doubt it would affect your budget at all come next year.