Another AI Evaluation Discussion

PSUColonel · 10-27-2016, 12:32 AM

I have never been so close to having what I consider to be very good AI evaluation numbers, but I cannot decide between these two:

55/25/15/5

or

60/20/15/5

I realize there is not a very big difference, but I am at the point where I am attempting to "fine tune".

Anyone want to take a crack at it?

BIG17EASY · 10-27-2016, 09:06 AM

I haven't fiddled with AI evaluation settings in a while, but I'm curious. Why do you limit yourself to increments of 5? If you're down to fine tuning, why not consider all integers?

PSUColonel · 10-27-2016, 12:08 PM

Well, I guess that's a good point.

I guess I could try something like :

60/22/13/5 or 57/22/15/5

jpeters1734 · 10-27-2016, 12:20 PM

my question is what are you really expecting the outcome to be? is it even possible for you to differentiate between 60/22/13/5 or 58/22/15/5? And how would you ever decide that one is better than the other? What are you using to measure?

PSUColonel · 10-27-2016, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpeters1734

my question is what are you really expecting the outcome to be? is it even possible for you to differentiate between 60/22/13/5 or 58/22/15/5? And how would you ever decide that one is better than the other? What are you using to measure?

Probably not...which is why my first two suggestions were rounded

PSUColonel · 10-28-2016, 12:39 AM

sticking with 55/25/15/5

I feel the AI behaves pretty well with these settings.

slic1149 · 10-28-2016, 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PSUColonel

I have never been so close to having what I consider to be very good AI evaluation numbers, but I cannot decide between these two:

55/25/15/5

or

60/20/15/5

I realize there is not a very big difference, but I am at the point where I am attempting to "fine tune".

Anyone want to take a crack at it?

Would it make it any sense at all to assume the developer has already designed out of the box evaluation numbers to achieve optimal "realism"? What type of evaluation baseline are you trying to get that doesn't match up with the standardized settings? Admittedly I only play historical, so player evaluation is obviously much easier with my play style than if one is playing fictional.

PSUColonel · 10-29-2016, 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slic1149

Would it make it any sense at all to assume the developer has already designed out of the box evaluation numbers to achieve optimal "realism"? What type of evaluation baseline are you trying to get that doesn't match up with the standardized settings? Admittedly I only play historical, so player evaluation is obviously much easier with my play style than if one is playing fictional.

yes, and no. There are two different defaults...using the MLB setup, it's 65/20/10/5....but if you start a fictional league, I think it's something like 30/50/15/5

The Rock · 10-30-2016, 10:25 AM

Hey guys,
I don´t want to open a new thread, so I´m using this one for a little question: is the option to set "Trading Frequency" gone??

Due to the manual is still there, but in-game I didn´t see it.

RchW · 10-30-2016, 11:21 AM

I'm not aware of a trading frequency setting. Checking v16 and v15 confirms nothing like that in previous versions.

Edit:

Found it in v14.

The Rock · 10-30-2016, 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RchW

I'm not aware of a trading frequency setting. Checking v16 and v15 confirms nothing like that in previous versions.

Edit:

Found it in v14.

Sorry man, I found it, it´s under "League Settings/Rules", my bad

Anyway, thanks for the reply.

RchW · 10-31-2016, 09:31 PM

Thanks for letting me know. Because one has to scroll down to see it, I'd never have found it.

NoOne · 11-01-2016, 11:20 AM

it's in 2 locations, depending. 1 spot during game creation, then they move it on you just to be tricky when you start playing the game. <joking>

i constantly have to sift through at least 2 screens before i find it. every once in a while a little fear and doubt creeps in that i changed it to my preferred setting and i have to take a look.

italyprof · 11-03-2016, 03:40 AM

I think it is under options under League Settings. Otherwise under global settings.

10-27-2016, 12:32 AM	#1
PSUColonel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 13,140	Another AI Evaluation Discussion I have never been so close to having what I consider to be very good AI evaluation numbers, but I cannot decide between these two: 55/25/15/5 or 60/20/15/5 I realize there is not a very big difference, but I am at the point where I am attempting to "fine tune". Anyone want to take a crack at it?

10-27-2016, 12:08 PM	#3
PSUColonel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 13,140	Well, I guess that's a good point. I guess I could try something like : 60/22/13/5 or 57/22/15/5 Last edited by PSUColonel; 10-27-2016 at 12:18 PM.

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jpeters1734 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Juust a bit outside... Posts: 6,289	my question is what are you really expecting the outcome to be? is it even possible for you to differentiate between 60/22/13/5 or 58/22/15/5? And how would you ever decide that one is better than the other? What are you using to measure? __________________ "Cannonball Coming!" Go Bucs!! Founder and League Caretaker of the Professional Baseball Circuit, www.probaseballcircuit.com An Un-Official Guide to Minor League Management in OOTP 21 Ratings Scale Conversion Cross-Reference Cheat Sheet Last edited by jpeters1734; 10-27-2016 at 12:21 PM.

10-30-2016, 10:25 AM	#9
The Rock Bat Boy Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 5	Hey guys, I don´t want to open a new thread, so I´m using this one for a little question: is the option to set "Trading Frequency" gone?? Due to the manual is still there, but in-game I didn´t see it. Attached Images Last edited by The Rock; 10-30-2016 at 10:27 AM.

10-30-2016, 11:21 AM	#10
RchW Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Toronto ON by way of Glasgow UK Posts: 15,629	I'm not aware of a trading frequency setting. Checking v16 and v15 confirms nothing like that in previous versions. Edit: Found it in v14. __________________ Cheers RichW If you’re looking for a good cause to donate money to please consider a Donation to Parkinson’s Canada. It may help me have a better future and if not me, someone else. Thanks. “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” Frank Wilhoit Last edited by RchW; 10-30-2016 at 11:36 AM.

10-27-2016, 09:06 AM	#2
BIG17EASY Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3,291	I haven't fiddled with AI evaluation settings in a while, but I'm curious. Why do you limit yourself to increments of 5? If you're down to fine tuning, why not consider all integers?

10-28-2016, 12:39 AM	#6
PSUColonel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 13,140	sticking with 55/25/15/5 I feel the AI behaves pretty well with these settings.

10-31-2016, 09:31 PM	#12
RchW Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Toronto ON by way of Glasgow UK Posts: 15,629	Thanks for letting me know. Because one has to scroll down to see it, I'd never have found it. __________________ Cheers RichW If you’re looking for a good cause to donate money to please consider a Donation to Parkinson’s Canada. It may help me have a better future and if not me, someone else. Thanks. “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” Frank Wilhoit

11-01-2016, 11:20 AM	#13
NoOne Banned Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 7,273 Infractions: 0/1 (3)	it's in 2 locations, depending. 1 spot during game creation, then they move it on you just to be tricky when you start playing the game. <joking> i constantly have to sift through at least 2 screens before i find it. every once in a while a little fear and doubt creeps in that i changed it to my preferred setting and i have to take a look.

11-03-2016, 03:40 AM	#14
italyprof All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 1,032	I think it is under options under League Settings. Otherwise under global settings.