Dead End Negotiations

Mike Lowe · 08-27-2016, 10:13 PM

Does anyone know why this keeps happening? For the past month, I've had the same conversation with this player.

Number4 · 08-27-2016, 11:10 PM

Maybe some boni, expected role, etc. are differrent?

bwburke94 · 08-28-2016, 12:54 AM

Offer $1,700,001?

MrBojangles · 08-28-2016, 11:02 AM

Do you use the "Meet Demand" button? I had a loop with a player like this once and I realized that I was using "Submit Offer" button. Switching to "meet demand," for unknown reasons, worked.

Mike Lowe · 08-28-2016, 08:28 PM

One day later (daily sim) and guess what? Going on about a month of this, at least. I have been clicking "Meet Demand."

TheMaus2 · 08-28-2016, 09:29 PM

You need to go onto commish mode and just put him on your team w/ that specific contract.

NoOne · 08-28-2016, 10:16 PM

i second what maus said... unless it's a clear mistake on the AI for asking for so little... if he matches the money just do it.

as long as it's kosher, don't feel bad about it.

dumb question: you submitted it? usualyl click twice i think to get it done... never know... you dont have to reply to that, just rhetorical in case of rare instance of oversight.

PSUColonel · 08-28-2016, 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMaus2

You need to go onto commish mode and just put him on your team w/ that specific contract.

Actually, this appears to be a bug, and something that I think should be addressed before the final patch.

Matt Arnold · 08-28-2016, 11:16 PM

I'd need to see league files to track it down. I know we have code in place to make sure that a player will demand an offer that they should accept, but it's possible that this has run into some weird corner case.

Mike Lowe · 08-29-2016, 09:53 AM

Thanks, Matt. Here is our league file (online league, so I definitely don't want to go in and edit anything myself as commissioner. Seems unfair)

http://www.baseball.simsportsglobal....aseball.tar.gz

MBarrett · 08-29-2016, 11:23 AM

I can confirm this happens every Offseason to multiple players/teams in our online league as well. And it happened in both '15 and '16.

What we've discovered is even though it says he wants more money, it's actually in "Pending" status. So if you don't submit anything else he'll eventually sign for that offer, so long as someone else doesn't offer him more of course.

Our file: http://ootpnbl.org/game/lgfile/nbl.lg.zip

Matt Arnold · 08-29-2016, 11:32 AM

Really not sure what's happening for you. I click submit offer, sim like a week, and then he signs. No fuss, no problems.

TGH-Adfabre · 08-29-2016, 01:25 PM

Are they clicking "Meet Demand" and not clicking "Submit Offer"?

08-27-2016, 10:13 PM	#1
Mike Lowe Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 2,178	Dead End Negotiations Does anyone know why this keeps happening? For the past month, I've had the same conversation with this player. __________________ SSG Baseball Simming in real-time (daily sims) since 2015 Join us by filling out an application from the website below Website \| Discord

08-27-2016, 11:10 PM	#2
Number4 Major Leagues Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 460	Maybe some boni, expected role, etc. are differrent? __________________ "Odor is now 2 for 5 today" (Commentator, after Rougned Odor, up to then 1 for 4, punched Jose Bautista square in the face.)

08-28-2016, 08:28 PM	#5
Mike Lowe Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 2,178	One day later (daily sim) and guess what? Going on about a month of this, at least. I have been clicking "Meet Demand." __________________ SSG Baseball Simming in real-time (daily sims) since 2015 Join us by filling out an application from the website below Website \| Discord

08-28-2016, 09:29 PM	#6
TheMaus2 All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: The OOTP Forums. Always. Posts: 1,951	You need to go onto commish mode and just put him on your team w/ that specific contract. __________________ I write a monthly newsletter on the Food Baseball Association. I also listen to music no one's ever heard of in hopes of looking cool and alternative.

08-28-2016, 10:16 PM	#7
NoOne Banned Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 7,273 Infractions: 0/1 (3)	i second what maus said... unless it's a clear mistake on the AI for asking for so little... if he matches the money just do it. as long as it's kosher, don't feel bad about it. dumb question: you submitted it? usualyl click twice i think to get it done... never know... you dont have to reply to that, just rhetorical in case of rare instance of oversight. Last edited by NoOne; 08-28-2016 at 10:17 PM.

08-28-2016, 12:54 AM	#3
bwburke94 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Belchertown, MA, USA Posts: 4,523	Offer $1,700,001?

08-28-2016, 11:02 AM	#4
MrBojangles All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: low and inside Posts: 568	Do you use the "Meet Demand" button? I had a loop with a player like this once and I realized that I was using "Submit Offer" button. Switching to "meet demand," for unknown reasons, worked.

08-28-2016, 11:16 PM	#9
Matt Arnold OOTP Developer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Here and there Posts: 16,243	I'd need to see league files to track it down. I know we have code in place to make sure that a player will demand an offer that they should accept, but it's possible that this has run into some weird corner case.

08-29-2016, 09:53 AM	#10
Mike Lowe Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 2,178	Thanks, Matt. Here is our league file (online league, so I definitely don't want to go in and edit anything myself as commissioner. Seems unfair) http://www.baseball.simsportsglobal....aseball.tar.gz __________________ SSG Baseball Simming in real-time (daily sims) since 2015 Join us by filling out an application from the website below Website \| Discord

08-29-2016, 11:23 AM	#11
MBarrett All Star Reserve Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 627	I can confirm this happens every Offseason to multiple players/teams in our online league as well. And it happened in both '15 and '16. What we've discovered is even though it says he wants more money, it's actually in "Pending" status. So if you don't submit anything else he'll eventually sign for that offer, so long as someone else doesn't offer him more of course. Our file: http://ootpnbl.org/game/lgfile/nbl.lg.zip Last edited by MBarrett; 08-29-2016 at 11:27 AM.

08-29-2016, 11:32 AM	#12
Matt Arnold OOTP Developer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Here and there Posts: 16,243	Really not sure what's happening for you. I click submit offer, sim like a week, and then he signs. No fuss, no problems.

08-29-2016, 01:25 PM	#13
TGH-Adfabre Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 2,601	Are they clicking "Meet Demand" and not clicking "Submit Offer"? __________________ You mock me, therefore I am My wife