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Old 07-13-2016, 11:30 PM   #1
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Can "Rainouts" Be Disabled?

Is it possible to disable the "rainouts"?

it's not covered in the manual.

Does the rescheduling of rainouts work well?
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Old 07-14-2016, 12:36 AM   #2
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Define work?

The games get rescheduled and it seems to me to be a double header the next time the teams meet.

It is interesting when the players are different due to injury, trades, etc but I haven't seen it be a deal breaker.

I don't know if it follows 100% with real life and only judge it on how it impacts my pitching staff.

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Old 07-14-2016, 12:54 AM   #3
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This is how I disable rainouts. Use the ballpark editor to change the rain % to 0 for each park. (Might be tad tedious if you have a slew of parks, though)...
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Old 07-14-2016, 01:30 AM   #4
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Does the rescheduling of rainouts work well?
It works, but it could be better. Note that OOTP only uses the major league rescheduling method for postponed games (the minor leagues in real life use a different system), and only uses separate admission (i.e. day-night) doubleheaders. You won't see the traditional single admission, two-for-one doubleheader.
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Old 07-14-2016, 02:16 AM   #5
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Eugene, you might like to checkout Questdog's Weather Mod:

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...ather-mod.html

I use it, so that the games in my league will not have any rainouts...
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Old 07-14-2016, 06:19 AM   #6
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I'm not saying it's wrong, but why wouldn't you want rainouts? It's a very common thing irl and is modeled well enough in ootp.
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Old 07-14-2016, 08:20 AM   #7
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The thing I don't like about rainouts is the occasional scheduling of doubleheaders in TWO different cities. The afternoon game could be in New York and the night game could be in Los Angeles. Very unrealistic.
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The thing I don't like about rainouts is the occasional scheduling of doubleheaders in TWO different cities. The afternoon game could be in New York and the night game could be in Los Angeles. Very unrealistic.
Yeah, this irks me to no end, but not to the point that I adjust the chance for rain. I just try to ignore it when this happens.
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Old 07-14-2016, 09:37 AM   #9
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I play historical so when there is a rainout, I go in manually and change the game times to make it a traditional doubleheader instead of a day-night DH.

I'm not a fan of the "two-city" doubleheader when it happens on a team's last visit to a city so I may start scheduling it on a mutual off-day later in the season.

Overall, I like the rainout feature, but I don't like the two-city doubleheader. But as I understand it from the board, it's an AI thing, especially in an MLB game, to make sure the home and away games balance.
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I don't know of the exact rules regarding financials but couldn't you just change the stadium when you play the game? That way it's a home game officially but you still play in the stadium of the regularly scheduled game
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I'm not saying it's wrong, but why wouldn't you want rainouts? It's a very common thing irl and is modeled well enough in ootp.
True. However, sometimes I'd found that some of the rescheduled games where showing up on the next season's schedule and I had to go in, find and edit them out. Not sure if this has been fixed for ootp17, but that's the bug that caused me to eliminate rainouts all together.
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I'm not saying it's wrong, but why wouldn't you want rainouts? It's a very common thing irl and is modeled well enough in ootp.
I'm guessing Eugene doesn't want rainouts because he's doing a historical dynasty and wants to use the actual schedule and lineups, not one that the game has changed.

Eugene, it seems to me that the "set the rain % in the ballparks" trick would work well...
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Old 07-14-2016, 11:29 AM   #13
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Define work?

The games get rescheduled and it seems to me to be a double header the next time the teams meet.

It is interesting when the players are different due to injury, trades, etc but I haven't seen it be a deal breaker.

I don't know if it follows 100% with real life and only judge it on how it impacts my pitching staff.

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Definition of "work":

Does it reschedule the game without corrupting your league?

That's all.

I like the rainout feature and plan to use it, depending on what the gamers tell me in this thread.

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Old 07-14-2016, 11:31 AM   #14
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This is how I disable rainouts. Use the ballpark editor to change the rain % to 0 for each park. (Might be tad tedious if you have a slew of parks, though)...
Thanks, DreamTeams.

Great workaround... and easy for me... no longer have 64 teams to administer... just 8 teams in the Southern Association.

Hope I don't have to use your workaround... rainouts is a nice feature.

Will use it if it doesn't have any glitches in it.

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Old 07-14-2016, 11:34 AM   #15
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I'm not saying it's wrong, but why wouldn't you want rainouts? It's a very common thing irl and is modeled well enough in ootp.
I plan on using it... it's a very good feature... my only concern was whether or not it works without any glitches that could corrupt my league.

I put too much work in them to have a feature that isn't reliable.

I only want features that are tried and true and don't create any problems.
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The thing I don't like about rainouts is the occasional scheduling of doubleheaders in TWO different cities. The afternoon game could be in New York and the night game could be in Los Angeles. Very unrealistic.
Agree... don't like that.

I hope I can reschedule this type of aberration by using the schedule editor.

Will it cause any problem, if I edit that game in the schedule editor?
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Old 07-14-2016, 11:43 AM   #17
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True. However, sometimes I'd found that some of the rescheduled games where showing up on the next season's schedule and I had to go in, find and edit them out. Not sure if this has been fixed for ootp17, but that's the bug that caused me to eliminate rainouts all together.
In past versions, I always had to check the schedule each season to remove any playoffs games in the new regular season... OOTP12 would always place "games to determine playoff teams" in the new season schedule.

This wasn't a big problem.

I always run a schedule report at the beginning of each season to make sure my teams play each other the correct number of times home and away... you can find the report in the schedule editor.
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I'm guessing Eugene doesn't want rainouts because he's doing a historical dynasty and wants to use the actual schedule and lineups, not one that the game has changed.

Eugene, it seems to me that the "set the rain % in the ballparks" trick would work well...
I like the feature if it works and doesn't corrupt my league.

Just wanted to know if it basically reschedules the rainouts with no MAJOR problems.

Should it ever reschedule the game in the wrong city, I can edit it in the schedule editor.
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Old 07-14-2016, 11:52 AM   #19
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It works, but it could be better. Note that OOTP only uses the major league rescheduling method for postponed games (the minor leagues in real life use a different system), and only uses separate admission (i.e. day-night) doubleheaders. You won't see the traditional single admission, two-for-one doubleheader.
Thanks for the reply... when it involves schedules and OOTPB, I know you know the answers.

Can I use the schedule editor to reschedule games myself, if the AI doesn't do it quite right?

I like the feature... it will create realistic problems that managers have... how to manipulate his pitching staff when games have to be made up.
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I'm guessing Eugene doesn't want rainouts because he's doing a historical dynasty and wants to use the actual schedule and lineups, not one that the game has changed.

Eugene, it seems to me that the "set the rain % in the ballparks" trick would work well...
BigShot gave me a 1938 Southern Association schedule that I am using... it seems to work fine and has doubleheaders.

I want to replay the league as close to reality as I can get, but I have to accept that I can only come close to recreating it... it will not be perfect.

I'm hoping that the better teams in the league do well... they did in my test leagues... and hoping most of the ballplayers will be in the "ballpark" as far as season stats, knowing full well there will be some aberrations... but I can live with them.

If a 6th, 7th or 8th place team wins the pennant, it will be my fault... I didn't give the players the proper ratings... I think the game will do fine in its replay... it will be as good as my ratings make it.

I'm in my first month of play and it's looking pretty realistic statistically.

I'm very pleased and really enjoying my Southern Association dynasty.
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