Need Help, What Do I Do With Him?

sreem · 07-05-2016, 11:11 AM

Jordan Zimmerman

I really didn't expect this out of him, but he is actually getting worse the more starts he makes. I have no idea what to do with him. Bullpen? Trade? I can't have this. All of his stats are SO far away from his norm, I keep expecting him to snap back. But he is not. My patience is almost gone.

NoOne · 07-05-2016, 11:37 AM

8 games cannot tell you anything with much confidence... he's 29. they can dip before 30, but it's a bit rare even at default aging.

if you have an option that's worthwhile to use, do it. otherwise stick it out. if he isn't hurt or lost his talent, he is fine. move him down inthe rotation, skip a start or two, if you want.... as long as they didn't pre-ordain slumps and streaks in the code, which would be counterintuitive to what reality is, there's nothing you can do with a streak of bad outings to avoid it... it's random.

2x hr/9, high babip, high bb/9... any pitcher doubles those stats and the other numbers won't look good... but it's 8 games! how many bad outings does a similar pitcher average / year? what happens if a disproportionate amount of them occur at the beginning of the year? you are fooled for months by the stats telling you the wrong thing... that's what.

if at the end of the year the game log and year-end stats show a consistent crappy performance all year.. then you may want to think about moving him off your team. in the meantime just use him less if you think he's lost his ratings (even though you cannot see, they are what drives performance... stats merely give a murky glimpse at current ratings.)

jdw31158 · 07-05-2016, 12:37 PM

I'd put him in the bullpen for awhile, see if he can work it out. Otherwise, keep sending him out there and ride it out.

sreem · 07-05-2016, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoOne

8 games cannot tell you anything with much confidence... he's 29. they can dip before 30, but it's a bit rare even at default aging.

if you have an option that's worthwhile to use, do it. otherwise stick it out. if he isn't hurt or lost his talent, he is fine. move him down inthe rotation, skip a start or two, if you want.... as long as they didn't pre-ordain slumps and streaks in the code, which would be counterintuitive to what reality is, there's nothing you can do with a streak of bad outings to avoid it... it's random.

2x hr/9, high babip, high bb/9... any pitcher doubles those stats and the other numbers won't look good... but it's 8 games! how many bad outings does a similar pitcher average / year? what happens if a disproportionate amount of them occur at the beginning of the year? you are fooled for months by the stats telling you the wrong thing... that's what.

if at the end of the year the game log and year-end stats show a consistent crappy performance all year.. then you may want to think about moving him off your team. in the meantime just use him less if you think he's lost his ratings (even though you cannot see, they are what drives performance... stats merely give a murky glimpse at current ratings.)

All sounds legit, except if this is a precursor to a below-average remaining career, he could pitch decent the rest of the year and he still won't get me much if anything in a trade at the end of the year. His trade value is now, before the AI realized he's an "overpaid" veteran. I guess I need to just try and move him. We aren't going to contend, and he will be 34 when his contract is up. He still has some value now, and that value will disappear unless he runs of Cy Young Award worthy stats for the next 20 starts.

The Game · 07-05-2016, 01:00 PM

Trade him to the White Sox, oh wait this isnt Shields we are talking about.

Whats the scout have him at?

ihatenames · 07-05-2016, 01:05 PM

I'd give him another month with a quick hook. With his track record it is probably just a bad stretch.

sreem · 07-05-2016, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by The Game

Trade him to the White Sox, oh wait this isnt Shields we are talking about.

Whats the scout have him at?

3/3 Ovr/Pot

PBCA Commish · 07-07-2016, 11:32 AM

Sit him down for a week. He might be trying to hide an injury. I've tried that with a few players that had good ratings but were doing poorly. Sitting them down to rest for like 7 days can do them good. He might bounce back.

r0nster · 07-07-2016, 11:50 AM

I didn't want him in real life and I traded him right away in the game.

07-05-2016, 11:11 AM	#1
sreem All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 673	Need Help, What Do I Do With Him? Jordan Zimmerman I really didn't expect this out of him, but he is actually getting worse the more starts he makes. I have no idea what to do with him. Bullpen? Trade? I can't have this. All of his stats are SO far away from his norm, I keep expecting him to snap back. But he is not. My patience is almost gone. Attached Images __________________ "What doesn't kill you only makes you stronger. Except for bears....."

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NoOne Banned Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 7,273 Infractions: 0/1 (3)	8 games cannot tell you anything with much confidence... he's 29. they can dip before 30, but it's a bit rare even at default aging. if you have an option that's worthwhile to use, do it. otherwise stick it out. if he isn't hurt or lost his talent, he is fine. move him down inthe rotation, skip a start or two, if you want.... as long as they didn't pre-ordain slumps and streaks in the code, which would be counterintuitive to what reality is, there's nothing you can do with a streak of bad outings to avoid it... it's random. 2x hr/9, high babip, high bb/9... any pitcher doubles those stats and the other numbers won't look good... but it's 8 games! how many bad outings does a similar pitcher average / year? what happens if a disproportionate amount of them occur at the beginning of the year? you are fooled for months by the stats telling you the wrong thing... that's what. if at the end of the year the game log and year-end stats show a consistent crappy performance all year.. then you may want to think about moving him off your team. in the meantime just use him less if you think he's lost his ratings (even though you cannot see, they are what drives performance... stats merely give a murky glimpse at current ratings.) Last edited by NoOne; 07-05-2016 at 11:44 AM.

07-05-2016, 01:00 PM	#5
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ihatenames Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Rockford Posts: 2,534	I'd give him another month with a quick hook. With his track record it is probably just a bad stretch. __________________ New Album coming soon!

07-05-2016, 12:37 PM	#3
jdw31158 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 166	I'd put him in the bullpen for awhile, see if he can work it out. Otherwise, keep sending him out there and ride it out.

07-07-2016, 11:32 AM	#8
PBCA Commish Minors (Single A) Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 98	Sit him down for a week. He might be trying to hide an injury. I've tried that with a few players that had good ratings but were doing poorly. Sitting them down to rest for like 7 days can do them good. He might bounce back.

07-07-2016, 11:50 AM	#9
r0nster Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 3,082	I didn't want him in real life and I traded him right away in the game.