The un-official Find the nicknames that offend you thread. - Page 2

jpeters1734 · 04-20-2016, 10:38 AM

Hillbilly is terriblely offensive

ohiodevil · 04-20-2016, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Hadehariast

This was not in response to a deluge of fanciful and ridiculous threads. There were two threads launched in the last day about offensive nicknames which should be removed-- one with strong ties to the KKK, and one which is a racial epithet for a black man.

Depending on the colour of your skin, your experience with racism may vary. The descendants of a lynching victim or those who are still subject to racial violence likely don't feel as flippant as you do towards the 'Grand Wizard' nickname or the sort of racial epithet that they hear too often.

Removing two racially charged nicknames from a list of 1163-- yes, I counted-- is the textbook definition of "reasonable accommodation." These are your fellow citizens. These are your people-- they deserve to be treated with respect for their fundamental human dignity, rather than be dismissed with contempt as 'overly sensitive' and not worth having their position considered with any sort of concern or serious consideration.

One of those threads was proven as someone trolling the community as the nickname in question does not appear in the default nickname file.

Problem is when someone comes on the boards and post something like that, they are opening the door for discussions like this as people will be on one side or the other. Simple solution as you said is to go into the nickname file and remove the ones you don't like....or just go check the box that disables all nicknames.

Not sure about everyone else, but I don't want to come to the boards and have to see threads of people fighting about something that really is not related to baseball.....let's just PLAY BALL!

Barkingturtle · 04-20-2016, 10:55 AM

I found a simple fix.

I just edited the entry "Grand Wizard" in the nickname file to instead read: "Painmantle."

Orcin · 04-20-2016, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Hadehariast

Removing two racially charged nicknames from a list of 1163-- yes, I counted-- is the textbook definition of "reasonable accommodation."

You want to fix your problem? Go to the list and delete the two names that bother you. Done. No need to come here and post about it.

Now, if you want to try to control what other people see and do, then yes you should come here and make a big deal out of it.

injury log · 04-20-2016, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Painmantle

We certainly don't need to wait for a nickname to spawn randomly to get offended by one.

Quote a single person who said they were "offended" in the other nickname thread. Who do you think you're arguing with?

I don't want nicknames of white supremacist leaders in my baseball game. Who does? How is this ****ing controversial?

Roggie · 04-20-2016, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by metsguy234

Grand Wizard is a pretty strange nickname to put in the nicknames file, considering there aren't actually any former baseball players I can find who went by it. Like, KKK connotations aside, it's just a legitimately odd nickname.

John Rocker went by it.

silvam14 · 04-20-2016, 01:21 PM

Years on these here forums has shown these types of arguments to pretty much amount to nothing.

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The Wolf · 04-20-2016, 01:49 PM

"Grand Wizard" is the nickname of both a black rapper and a WWE star. Nobody significant has a problem with either. Get over yourself.

The Wolf · 04-20-2016, 01:50 PM

And delete it out of your nickname file and move the Hell on.

grmagne · 04-20-2016, 02:18 PM

There's currently "The Magician", "Wizard", "The Wizard" and "Grand Wizard". I think it would be good if the developers changed the last one to "Great Wizard" or "The Illusionist" or any other variant of magic that won't cause controversy on this forum.

swampdragon · 04-20-2016, 02:24 PM

Looks like "Dummy" and "Rube" have already been edited out, but they live on as the BB-Ref and OOTP first names of Messrs. Hoy, Waddell, Bressler, Taylor, and others.

PSUColonel · 04-20-2016, 02:50 PM

Why is this generation so help bent on being so hyper-sensitive and ultra PC?

fcabanski · 04-20-2016, 02:52 PM

"my hats off to you but dine belittle those who do get offended. Everyone's Conscience is different and should not be beaten down but respected."

That's fine, until a single offended person means something has to be banned. There are billions of people in the world. Almost any word, name, object offends at least one person.

canadiancreed · 04-20-2016, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Roggie

John Rocker went by it.

I thought he went by "Washed up asshole"?

Also I'm going to take this thread, spread it across my lawn, and watch it become a barren wasteland.

PSUColonel · 04-20-2016, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by fcabanski

"my hats off to you but dine belittle those who do get offended. Everyone's Conscience is different and should not be beaten down but respected."

That's fine, until a single offended person means something has to be banned. There are billions of people in the world. Almost any word, name, object offends at least one person.

Which is exactly why placating is, and has always been a horrible practice.

Number4 · 04-20-2016, 04:55 PM

Remember that this game isn't only played in America. If I hear of a Grand Wizard, that is Gandalf for me, not some republican with a bed sheet over his head.

Maybe have an optional "politically correct" list, that others can use if they are easily offended? And by giving them the option, the normal list does not have to placate to those easily offended people. Both sides would profit.

Then again, about 90% wouldn't notice it or care about it anyway.

BPS · 04-20-2016, 06:19 PM

I am not easily offended. I do believe, however, that nicknames that have obvious negative associations (for instance, with racial oppression) are best excluded.

JaBurns · 04-20-2016, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Number4

Remember that this game isn't only played in America. If I hear of a Grand Wizard, that is Gandalf for me, not some republican with a bed sheet over his head.

Maybe have an optional "politically correct" list, that others can use if they are easily offended? And by giving them the option, the normal list does not have to placate to those easily offended people. Both sides would profit.

Then again, about 90% wouldn't notice it or care about it anyway.

Agreed my only question is "only 90 %"? It is very easy to edit in this game, it must be because I know how to do it....
The famous quote in these forums "it is your game play it your way".
This thread is getting right out of control but making "interesting " reading.

Orcin · 04-20-2016, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Number4

If I hear of a Grand Wizard, that is Gandalf for me, not some Democrat with a bed sheet over his head.

Fixed this for you.

Antonin · 04-20-2016, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Padreman

...this thread was made specifically to belittle those who do get offended. Just because you have the "right "to say whatever you want doesn't mean that you should. In this thread should be close because simply it was made simply to make fun of others

100% correct.

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silvam14 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Dedham, MA Posts: 10,180	Years on these here forums has shown these types of arguments to pretty much amount to nothing. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Senior "Nancy Boy" of the OOTP Boards _______________________________________________

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swampdragon Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Lonely Mountain Posts: 2,506	Looks like "Dummy" and "Rube" have already been edited out, but they live on as the BB-Ref and OOTP first names of Messrs. Hoy, Waddell, Bressler, Taylor, and others. __________________ “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies." -- C.S. Lewis

04-20-2016, 10:55 AM	#23
Barkingturtle Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 99	I found a simple fix. I just edited the entry "Grand Wizard" in the nickname file to instead read: "Painmantle."

04-20-2016, 02:18 PM	#30
grmagne Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Toronto Posts: 272	There's currently "The Magician", "Wizard", "The Wizard" and "Grand Wizard". I think it would be good if the developers changed the last one to "Great Wizard" or "The Illusionist" or any other variant of magic that won't cause controversy on this forum.

04-20-2016, 02:50 PM	#32
PSUColonel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 13,143	Why is this generation so help bent on being so hyper-sensitive and ultra PC?

04-20-2016, 02:52 PM	#33
fcabanski Minors (Double A) Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 170	"my hats off to you but dine belittle those who do get offended. Everyone's Conscience is different and should not be beaten down but respected." That's fine, until a single offended person means something has to be banned. There are billions of people in the world. Almost any word, name, object offends at least one person.

04-20-2016, 04:55 PM	#36
Number4 Major Leagues Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 460	Remember that this game isn't only played in America. If I hear of a Grand Wizard, that is Gandalf for me, not some republican with a bed sheet over his head. Maybe have an optional "politically correct" list, that others can use if they are easily offended? And by giving them the option, the normal list does not have to placate to those easily offended people. Both sides would profit. Then again, about 90% wouldn't notice it or care about it anyway.

04-20-2016, 06:19 PM	#37
BPS All Star Reserve Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 732	I am not easily offended. I do believe, however, that nicknames that have obvious negative associations (for instance, with racial oppression) are best excluded.