Injuries..... Numerous

TwinsGuy34 · 04-04-2016, 04:17 PM

15th season of a current day ML format w/ custom players. (So, no SSS here)

Been an OOTP'er for 8 years now. Love the game.

My only complaint is injuries. I've got them set on LOW since my first season as I always put injuries on LOW. Even on LOW, seemingly every year, I can't get through 2 weeks without having to put a player on the DL. I can't get through spring training without at least 2 guys starting the season on the DL.

I don't think I've played a season when I didn't have at least 1 player out for 2-3 months or longer (essentially the season). Usually, I've got multiple guys out for months at a time.

I would say on average, I've got 3-4 players (I've had 6 before) on the DL at any given point of the season.

I've never had a "wrecked" player. I even make it a point to stay away from the "fragile" players, so I don't have have many of them either. I'm getting all these injuries from "normal" players.............

I'd hate to see what the "normal" injury mode is like, or higher than "normal".

This all just seems a bit much...............

Anyone else?

Padreman · 04-04-2016, 04:21 PM

Change the injury frequency setting under your league settings

mitchkenn · 04-04-2016, 04:37 PM

yep. my injuries are on low as well and some years i lose 4 or 5 players for 6 months or more. Last year i lost my Cy Young pitcher and best infielder the last two days of spring training for 4 months each. Other years, they are just two weeks for a couple of players. Seems to balance itself over time. i see other teams having serious injuries, but not just one team .... so i think the game is real in that sense, and since i am playing historical (1901 - 1916 time frame right now) i suspect the injury rate is probably OK.

TwinsGuy34 · 04-04-2016, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Padreman

Change the injury frequency setting under your league settings

It's on LOW.

I've played w/ it in past OOTP's w/ it on VERY LOW and then injuries hardly happen at all.

I'd just like more of a happy medium, I guess.

edtheguy · 04-04-2016, 04:42 PM

There are often complaints about the number of injuries in the game but as with all of the key factors of the simulation, extensive care, research and testing has been used in developing the injury system.

It causes so much frustration that the default setting is already lower than accurate, and to approach anything close to real life injury rates you actually have to turn the frequency up a notch or two (to the one labeled 'realistic modern day'...). Real life managers would love to be able to turn it down like we can.

I always play with the higher 'realistic modern day' setting and look at it as a challenge. In one of my saves this year I only have six players on the DL, which is rather low actually. Unfortunately five of them are my top 5 starters, who are all out for 12-13 months with reconstructive surgery.... I always build depth for this reason but that focused batch of injuries has caused some panic moves on the major league roster... which I'll probably regret in the long run, but those decisions and their consequences are what makes the game so addictive for me.

TwinsGuy34 · 04-04-2016, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by edtheguy

There are often complaints about the number of injuries in the game but as with all of the key factors of the simulation, extensive care, research and testing has been used in developing the injury system.

It causes so much frustration that the default setting is already lower than accurate, and to approach anything close to real life injury rates you actually have to turn the frequency up a notch or two (to the one labeled 'realistic modern day'...). Real life managers would love to be able to turn it down like we can.

I always play with the higher 'realistic modern day' setting and look at it as a challenge. In one of my saves this year I only have six players on the DL, which is rather low actually. Unfortunately five of them are my top 5 starters, who are all out for 12-13 months with reconstructive surgery.... I always build depth for this reason but that focused batch of injuries has caused some panic moves on the major league roster... which I'll probably regret in the long run, but those decisions and their consequences are what makes the game so addictive for me.

I have no doubts the homework has been regarding injuries.

But let's take your own scenario. You have 6 players on the DL, which you say is rather low, w/ 5 of them being starting players who are out for at least a year.

You call that realistic?

I'm in my 16th season and 4 out of my 5 starting pitchers are on the DL right now.

It's possible, I suppose but what are the odds? And keep in mind, I have injury setting on LOW.

PhillieFever · 04-04-2016, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TwinsGuy34

I have no doubts the homework has been regarding injuries.

But let's take your own scenario. You have 6 players on the DL, which you say is rather low, w/ 5 of them being starting players who are out for at least a year.

You call that realistic?

I'm in my 16th season and 4 out of my 5 starting pitchers are on the DL right now.

It's possible, I suppose but what are the odds? And keep in mind, I have injury setting on LOW.

Today is opening day and there are already 205 players out with injuries.

TwinsGuy34 · 04-04-2016, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by PhillieFever

Today is opening day and there are already 205 players out with injuries.

I find that hard to believe.

I'd love a link showing me there are 205 players out who are part of a ML team's 40 man roster.

Ron. · 04-04-2016, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TwinsGuy34

I find that hard to believe.

I'd love a link showing me there are 205 players out who are part of a ML team's 40 man roster.

Not sure where that number came from, but there are currently 114 players who are not only injured but on the DL.

PhillieFever · 04-04-2016, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by TwinsGuy34

I find that hard to believe.

I'd love a link showing me there are 205 players out who are part of a ML team's 40 man roster.

Search MLB injuries, CBS Sportsline. Why on earth would I lie?

PhillieFever · 04-04-2016, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron.

Not sure where that number came from, but there are currently 114 players who are not only injured but on the DL.

CBS has every player listed in the MLB injury report, DTD's included. This of course does NOT take into account the minor league DL.

victims_sanction · 04-04-2016, 05:32 PM

I've got it on the Realistic MLB one and don't really have a problem with it at all. Sometimes you get slammed, other times you breeze through 2 months without anyone going on the DL. Also if its the same players getting injured repeatedly (Puig for example) it's a problem with them not the settings. Some guys are just very prone.

For an example I've had a pretty rough year in 2017 in terms of injuries but right now it's August 14th and I have 3 guys on the DL (starting CF and SS and a depth CF whose probably my 6th best OF). I have a hard time believing there's too many on Low unless you have some guys that are really made of glass.

Doc_Brown · 04-04-2016, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by PhillieFever

Search MLB injuries, CBS Sportsline. Why on earth would I lie?

To like, totally score internet cool points

I did some injury research for the roster set a couple of years ago and was shocked by how many guys were out when OD rolled around.

TwinsGuy34 · 04-04-2016, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by PhillieFever

Search MLB injuries, CBS Sportsline. Why on earth would I lie?

I never thought you'd lie.

...... just mistaken.

TwinsGuy34 · 04-04-2016, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron.

Not sure where that number came from, but there are currently 114 players who are not only injured but on the DL.

This is a good list, thank you.

There are more injuries than what most would think, including me.

So, I guess I don't know what to think now....... I just hate having to deal w/ what's seemingly a lot of injuries.

pstrickert · 04-04-2016, 06:31 PM

And the list at that link is dominated by pitchers.

DJP53916 · 04-04-2016, 06:56 PM

I always run on "Low" setting for injuries, and still see plenty of injuries (DTD, 15-day and 60-day DL), but not an insane amount. Yes, sometimes they bunch up a bit, but other times, relatively few are out for injuries as well. Tends to even out pretty good by the end of the season on "Low."

At least for me, anyways.

SirMichaelJordan · 04-04-2016, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TwinsGuy34

It's on LOW.

I've played w/ it in past OOTP's w/ it on VERY LOW and then injuries hardly happen at all.

I'd just like more of a happy medium, I guess.

play on very low for this version?

PhillieFever · 04-04-2016, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by TwinsGuy34

This is a good list, thank you.

There are more injuries than what most would think, including me.

So, I guess I don't know what to think now....... I just hate having to deal w/ what's seemingly a lot of injuries.

If you're playing with full minors than I'd recommend nothing but realistic modern MLB, it adds a layer of strategy to the proceedings that truly makes winning feel earned. Anything else however and I'd stick with normal.
No hard feeling either btw. Years ago I was part of the team that helped pool the injury data that was used in shoring up that part of the game, and I remember the shock of seeing how many injuries there truly are, so believe me man, you're not the first.

risp2out · 04-04-2016, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TwinsGuy34

I'm in my 16th season and 4 out of my 5 starting pitchers are on the DL right now.

It's possible, I suppose but what are the odds? And keep in mind, I have injury setting on LOW.

In real life, the Dodgers have three starters on the DL right now; two on 60-day.

04-04-2016, 04:17 PM	#1
TwinsGuy34 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 42	Injuries..... Numerous 15th season of a current day ML format w/ custom players. (So, no SSS here) Been an OOTP'er for 8 years now. Love the game. My only complaint is injuries. I've got them set on LOW since my first season as I always put injuries on LOW. Even on LOW, seemingly every year, I can't get through 2 weeks without having to put a player on the DL. I can't get through spring training without at least 2 guys starting the season on the DL. I don't think I've played a season when I didn't have at least 1 player out for 2-3 months or longer (essentially the season). Usually, I've got multiple guys out for months at a time. I would say on average, I've got 3-4 players (I've had 6 before) on the DL at any given point of the season. I've never had a "wrecked" player. I even make it a point to stay away from the "fragile" players, so I don't have have many of them either. I'm getting all these injuries from "normal" players............. I'd hate to see what the "normal" injury mode is like, or higher than "normal". This all just seems a bit much............... Anyone else? Last edited by TwinsGuy34; 04-04-2016 at 04:19 PM.

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mitchkenn Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Oregon, not by design Posts: 2,872	yep. my injuries are on low as well and some years i lose 4 or 5 players for 6 months or more. Last year i lost my Cy Young pitcher and best infielder the last two days of spring training for 4 months each. Other years, they are just two weeks for a couple of players. Seems to balance itself over time. i see other teams having serious injuries, but not just one team .... so i think the game is real in that sense, and since i am playing historical (1901 - 1916 time frame right now) i suspect the injury rate is probably OK. __________________ "This is my opening farewell " - Jackson Browne “They make a desolation and call it peace.” ― Agha Shahid Ali "Maybe she just has to sing, for the sake of the song - And who do I think that I am to decide that she's wrong." - Townes Van Zandt "I saw a young man leaning on his wooden crutch - He called out to me, 'Don't ask for so much' And a young woman leaning in her darkened door She cried out to me, 'Why not ask for more?' " - Leonard Cohen "Hello darkness, my old Friend ...." - Paul Simon Before Mays, before DiMaggio, there was Oscar Charleston. "All the lies about Babe Ruth are true." - Waite Hoyt Avatar is the late great Townes Van Zandt. rip.

04-04-2016, 05:32 PM	#12
victims_sanction Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jul 2015 Posts: 67	I've got it on the Realistic MLB one and don't really have a problem with it at all. Sometimes you get slammed, other times you breeze through 2 months without anyone going on the DL. Also if its the same players getting injured repeatedly (Puig for example) it's a problem with them not the settings. Some guys are just very prone. For an example I've had a pretty rough year in 2017 in terms of injuries but right now it's August 14th and I have 3 guys on the DL (starting CF and SS and a depth CF whose probably my 6th best OF). I have a hard time believing there's too many on Low unless you have some guys that are really made of glass. Last edited by victims_sanction; 04-04-2016 at 05:34 PM.

04-04-2016, 04:42 PM	#5
edtheguy Minors (Single A) Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Maine Posts: 70	There are often complaints about the number of injuries in the game but as with all of the key factors of the simulation, extensive care, research and testing has been used in developing the injury system. It causes so much frustration that the default setting is already lower than accurate, and to approach anything close to real life injury rates you actually have to turn the frequency up a notch or two (to the one labeled 'realistic modern day'...). Real life managers would love to be able to turn it down like we can. I always play with the higher 'realistic modern day' setting and look at it as a challenge. In one of my saves this year I only have six players on the DL, which is rather low actually. Unfortunately five of them are my top 5 starters, who are all out for 12-13 months with reconstructive surgery.... I always build depth for this reason but that focused batch of injuries has caused some panic moves on the major league roster... which I'll probably regret in the long run, but those decisions and their consequences are what makes the game so addictive for me.

04-04-2016, 06:31 PM	#16
pstrickert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 17,064	And the list at that link is dominated by pitchers.

04-04-2016, 06:56 PM	#17
DJP53916 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 175	I always run on "Low" setting for injuries, and still see plenty of injuries (DTD, 15-day and 60-day DL), but not an insane amount. Yes, sometimes they bunch up a bit, but other times, relatively few are out for injuries as well. Tends to even out pretty good by the end of the season on "Low." At least for me, anyways.