Question about historical minors

Orcin · 03-24-2016, 10:54 AM

I created a historical league with historical minors. I am not happy with the inherited 40-man roster, and there is no way to control this before the AI creates the game.

The AI puts 18-20 year old prospects that have no prior pro experience on the 40-man roster, thus potentially wasting all three option years and blocking the roster spot for someone that really appeared on the major league team in that season. The only solution is to expose the prospects to waivers, and of course the AI teams claim all of them.

Does anyone know of a way to remove players from the secondary roster via the commissioner mode? I can't find a way to do it. The only solution I have so far is to allow the players to be claimed and then put them back on my team via the commissioner mode. I am hoping for something that does not leave a false transaction in the player history.

My opinion on a real solution is that the AI should fill the 40-man roster with players that appeared in the majors for the team in question first, and then complete it with players that have enough experience to be subject to Rule 5 draft. If they are out of options, so be it. Players with zero pro experience should not be on the 40-man roster even on AI teams.

mitchkenn · 03-24-2016, 11:11 AM

there's a few discussions in "Historical Simulations" that might add some insight. Not certain. But best i've discovered, until the minors start appearing (slowly) in 1919, you're stuck with the reserve or 40 man roster - until 1934 when everyone has at least one minor league. i haven't found a way around it yet, and i've tested about 4 different ways .... if you find something, PLEASE let us know. Markus wrote in one of the threads on general discussion a while back that you can't have fictional (self or game created) minors with historical ones. Bummer.

Orcin · 03-24-2016, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by mitchkenn

there's a few discussions in "Historical Simulations" that might add some insight. Not certain. But best i've discovered, until the minors start appearing (slowly) in 1919, you're stuck with the reserve or 40 man roster - until 1934 when everyone has at least one minor league. i haven't found a way around it yet, and i've tested about 4 different ways .... if you find something, PLEASE let us know. Markus wrote in one of the threads on general discussion a while back that you can't have fictional (self or game created) minors with historical ones. Bummer.

I am fine with having a 40-man roster. I just don't like who's on it.

I am not sure how this addresses my question. Did you perhaps post in the wrong thread?

swampdragon · 03-24-2016, 12:53 PM

What would happen if you used Commissioner mode to release the player or put him on another team? Will he disappear from the 40 man roster? Then you could just fill the 40 man roster spot and put him back on the appropriate farm team. I've always thought just about all things were possible in commissioner mode. Of course, you'll have to disallow AI roster changes, or the AI will just do it again, possibly waiving someone you want in the process.

Orcin · 03-24-2016, 02:58 PM

Thank you!! Using commissioner mode to put the player on another organization's minor league team will remove him from my 40-man roster. Then I can put him back on my minor league team, and there is no transaction on either team's log.

03-24-2016, 10:54 AM	#1
Orcin Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Indiana Posts: 9,881	Question about historical minors I created a historical league with historical minors. I am not happy with the inherited 40-man roster, and there is no way to control this before the AI creates the game. The AI puts 18-20 year old prospects that have no prior pro experience on the 40-man roster, thus potentially wasting all three option years and blocking the roster spot for someone that really appeared on the major league team in that season. The only solution is to expose the prospects to waivers, and of course the AI teams claim all of them. Does anyone know of a way to remove players from the secondary roster via the commissioner mode? I can't find a way to do it. The only solution I have so far is to allow the players to be claimed and then put them back on my team via the commissioner mode. I am hoping for something that does not leave a false transaction in the player history. My opinion on a real solution is that the AI should fill the 40-man roster with players that appeared in the majors for the team in question first, and then complete it with players that have enough experience to be subject to Rule 5 draft. If they are out of options, so be it. Players with zero pro experience should not be on the 40-man roster even on AI teams.

03-24-2016, 11:11 AM	#2
mitchkenn Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Oregon, not by design Posts: 2,872	there's a few discussions in "Historical Simulations" that might add some insight. Not certain. But best i've discovered, until the minors start appearing (slowly) in 1919, you're stuck with the reserve or 40 man roster - until 1934 when everyone has at least one minor league. i haven't found a way around it yet, and i've tested about 4 different ways .... if you find something, PLEASE let us know. Markus wrote in one of the threads on general discussion a while back that you can't have fictional (self or game created) minors with historical ones. Bummer. __________________ "This is my opening farewell " - Jackson Browne “They make a desolation and call it peace.” ― Agha Shahid Ali "Maybe she just has to sing, for the sake of the song - And who do I think that I am to decide that she's wrong." - Townes Van Zandt "I saw a young man leaning on his wooden crutch - He called out to me, 'Don't ask for so much' And a young woman leaning in her darkened door She cried out to me, 'Why not ask for more?' " - Leonard Cohen "Hello darkness, my old Friend ...." - Paul Simon Before Mays, before DiMaggio, there was Oscar Charleston. "All the lies about Babe Ruth are true." - Waite Hoyt Avatar is the late great Townes Van Zandt. rip.

03-24-2016, 12:53 PM	#4
swampdragon Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Lonely Mountain Posts: 2,506	What would happen if you used Commissioner mode to release the player or put him on another team? Will he disappear from the 40 man roster? Then you could just fill the 40 man roster spot and put him back on the appropriate farm team. I've always thought just about all things were possible in commissioner mode. Of course, you'll have to disallow AI roster changes, or the AI will just do it again, possibly waiving someone you want in the process. __________________ “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies." -- C.S. Lewis

03-24-2016, 02:58 PM	#5
Orcin Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Indiana Posts: 9,881	Thank you!! Using commissioner mode to put the player on another organization's minor league team will remove him from my 40-man roster. Then I can put him back on my minor league team, and there is no transaction on either team's log.