Head To Head? - Page 2

Rizon · 03-03-2016, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt Uk

I like Padreman's posts, it's like there's a hidden meaning in there somewhere

Didn't head to head once have a huge thread way back?

H2H was to be added in a previous version, but was scraped. Caused a bit of a ruckus, but time has now passed that it's ok to joke about it. Maybe 10 years ago?

The Wolf · 03-03-2016, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by actionjackson

Oh come on Mr. OOTP Evangelist. You'll buy ten copies and spread the good news.

Guilty as charged.

Tyler87898 · 03-03-2016, 04:34 PM

Dude if this is in OOTP 18, that would be AMAZING!

BusterKing · 03-03-2016, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Rizon

H2H was to be added in a previous version, but was scraped. Caused a bit of a ruckus, but time has now passed that it's ok to joke about it. Maybe 10 years ago?

Yep, I remember that well. I was disappointed that the promised feature wasn't delivered. I think it was the only time Markus failed in that area, not bad considering all the releases involved.

The Wolf · 03-03-2016, 10:42 PM

Steam can deliver it.

Donevyn · 03-04-2016, 10:24 AM

Oh man I truly hope this does happens in 18. My brother and I have been waiting for an easy way to do this in OOTP for years(!!)

(Forgot to quote Markus saying a head-to-head feature possibly being in 18)

Donevyn · 03-04-2016, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

You can already do this simply by using TeamViewer (freeware) and have the other guy get access to your desktop (where OOTP is running). He can use the keys to select the plays, so you don't know what he selected....

Just to clarify a bit. Is this for just a game head-to-head, or can one be simulating a seasons with another player with statistics and such be accessiable to both players?

Markus Heinsohn · 03-04-2016, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Donevyn

Just to clarify a bit. Is this for just a game head-to-head, or can one be simulating a seasons with another player with statistics and such be accessiable to both players?

Both. You can use regular online league mode to sync lineups etc and then play out your games head-to-head via TeamViewer.

Donevyn · 03-04-2016, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

Both. You can use regular online league mode to sync lineups etc and then play out your games head-to-head via TeamViewer.

Thanks for the quick reply (being as busy as you must be, pretty amazing!..but that is you

We've tried this, but I think neither of us is tech savvy enough to (or OOTP savvy) to set league mode up and etc. to make all this work. But it's good to know it's possible and keep trying.

strzepeksc · 03-04-2016, 01:45 PM

So, as a test can we use Team Viewer, which I am totally unfamiliar with, with version OOTP 16 or 17 to get a feel for how it will work. Will Team Viewer be supported by OOTP18 and comes with the game? There is a cost to using this, correct ? Please give us some more insight on the future of head to head online play with OOTP.

Added edit: I just downloaded the freeware version of team viewer, made backup copy of our online league file. I am trying to get another GM from the league to do the same ......get Team Viewer and we will attempt a test. But this brings up further questions if this part works...after we play a game head to head, since I am Commish I assume I just save the game as normal. Additionally, can the live sim mode be activated so that other GM's can watch live a game being played between two GM's (one being the Commish) ? Now, if two GM's play a game head to head.............how is the results of that game uploaded to my game (Commish) since I am not involved in that play ?

texasmame · 03-04-2016, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by strzepeksc

So, as a test can we use Team Viewer, which I am totally unfamiliar with, with version OOTP 16 or 17 to get a feel for how it will work. Will Team Viewer be supported by OOTP18 and comes with the game? There is a cost to using this, correct ? Please give us some more insight on the future of head to head online play with OOTP.

TeamViewer ? Remote Support, Remote Access, Online Collaboration and Meetings

The security of this concerns me a bit, however.

Not a fan of strangers gaining access to my computer - for whatever their reason!

strzepeksc · 03-04-2016, 11:07 PM

I tried twice with two other GM's in my league to try and play an exhibition game using Team Viewer. We both could move the mouse around the screen but could not figure out how to switch so that after his player singled I wanted to pitch out, but had no way to change the play............it still showed swing away or only offensive option decisions.........no defense. So, either I did not have the exhibition game set up correctly or else Team Viewer does not provide that option during a game play.

Does anyone know a work around or fix ?

seven · 03-05-2016, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

You can already do this simply by using TeamViewer (freeware) and have the other guy get access to your desktop (where OOTP is running). He can use the keys to select the plays, so you don't know what he selected....

Just to back up Markus's suggestion regarding TeamViewer, I've been using it for the past few years (not for OOTP, though) and it is excellent. Free and easy to use. Very reliable.

Painmantle · 03-06-2016, 10:05 AM

I don't remember the program we used, But I was in an online DM league in the Mid-90's where we played out all our games with a remote desktop program (This was before they had online h2h play) While it was successful, it was a true pain in the rear-end to say the least

Painmantle · 03-06-2016, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Painmantle

I don't remember the program we used, But I was in an online DM league in the Mid-90's where we played out all our games with a remote desktop program (This was before they had online h2h play) While it was successful, it was a true pain in the rear-end to say the least

Also just the shear number of games in a baseball season makes it a logistic nightmare trying to play all of them out, the league I mentioned above you played the same team for an in-game week week 3h/3a. Suffice to say it really slows the league process down substantially, almost to the point of "real time" and frankly once you get into that format, your prospective GM Target group for an online league grows even smaller.

strzepeksc · 03-06-2016, 01:35 PM

I realize with 30 GM's it is not feasible to expect every game to be played head to head. I would certainly want to use it for the playoffs and World Series and perhaps some selected games during the season. With GM's in different time zones around the world and with normal life activities it is not expected to play every game head to head.

The Wolf · 03-06-2016, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by strzepeksc

I realize with 30 GM's it is not feasible to expect every game to be played head to head. I would certainly want to use it for the playoffs and World Series and perhaps some selected games during the season. With GM's in different time zones around the world and with normal life activities it is not expected to play every game head to head.

So form a league of guys in the same time zone.

Donevyn · 03-06-2016, 02:37 PM

Another clarification in using 'TeamViewer'. This can't work with cross platforms, right. I.e. one person can't be on a Mac and the other PC?

strzepeksc · 03-06-2016, 04:12 PM

I did some more testing with Team Viewer and it seems all it really can offer to OOTP head to head play is sharing the same screen and both users in control of the mouse. We need the ability to "hide" an opponents movement of the mouse so we can not see selections such as a pitch out, swing away, take a pitch, etc. If the opponent sees a team choosing to hit and run than the opponent can easily just counter a selection and pitch out! These mouse selections need to be hidden from the opponent. Now, am I correct in this matter ? Or do I have something incorrectly set up ? Also, I don't see a way to webcast (or is it broadcast) a head to head game through team viewer as head to head games are being played out. Or am I wrong on that point also ?

daves · 03-06-2016, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by simian35

Just curious if this was ever an option or going to be? I am new to the, pre-ordered last week and work has been busy. I havent played a Baseball sim in years and years but have been wanting to and this one looks great.

Thank you All,

Simian

OOTP is the best. But the only game that offers head to head baseball matchups in a single game that I know of is Action! PC Baseball

It lacks a lot of the Management features of OOTP, but historical head to head, it has.

03-04-2016, 10:24 AM	#26
Donevyn Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: UP, WA Posts: 360	Oh man I truly hope this does happens in 18. My brother and I have been waiting for an easy way to do this in OOTP for years(!!) (Forgot to quote Markus saying a head-to-head feature possibly being in 18) Last edited by Donevyn; 03-04-2016 at 10:28 AM.

03-04-2016, 01:45 PM	#30
strzepeksc All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 648	So Is It Functional Now So, as a test can we use Team Viewer, which I am totally unfamiliar with, with version OOTP 16 or 17 to get a feel for how it will work. Will Team Viewer be supported by OOTP18 and comes with the game? There is a cost to using this, correct ? Please give us some more insight on the future of head to head online play with OOTP. Added edit: I just downloaded the freeware version of team viewer, made backup copy of our online league file. I am trying to get another GM from the league to do the same ......get Team Viewer and we will attempt a test. But this brings up further questions if this part works...after we play a game head to head, since I am Commish I assume I just save the game as normal. Additionally, can the live sim mode be activated so that other GM's can watch live a game being played between two GM's (one being the Commish) ? Now, if two GM's play a game head to head.............how is the results of that game uploaded to my game (Commish) since I am not involved in that play ? Last edited by strzepeksc; 03-04-2016 at 03:06 PM.

03-04-2016, 11:07 PM	#32
strzepeksc All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 648	Team Viewer Experiment failure for Head to Head I tried twice with two other GM's in my league to try and play an exhibition game using Team Viewer. We both could move the mouse around the screen but could not figure out how to switch so that after his player singled I wanted to pitch out, but had no way to change the play............it still showed swing away or only offensive option decisions.........no defense. So, either I did not have the exhibition game set up correctly or else Team Viewer does not provide that option during a game play. Does anyone know a work around or fix ?

03-06-2016, 10:05 AM	#34
Painmantle Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Greenfield ,IN Posts: 3,053	I don't remember the program we used, But I was in an online DM league in the Mid-90's where we played out all our games with a remote desktop program (This was before they had online h2h play) While it was successful, it was a true pain in the rear-end to say the least __________________ “As soon as I got out there I felt a strange relationship with the pitcher's mound. It was as if I'd been born out there. Pitching just felt like the most natural thing in the world. Striking out batters was easy.” -Babe Ruth “Ruth made a grave mistake when he gave up pitching. Working once a week, he might have lasted a long time and become a great star.”-Tris Speaker My Dynasties The Beantown Bambino

03-06-2016, 01:35 PM	#36
strzepeksc All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 648	Play Only Selected games I realize with 30 GM's it is not feasible to expect every game to be played head to head. I would certainly want to use it for the playoffs and World Series and perhaps some selected games during the season. With GM's in different time zones around the world and with normal life activities it is not expected to play every game head to head.

03-03-2016, 04:34 PM	#23
Tyler87898 All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 794	Dude if this is in OOTP 18, that would be AMAZING!

03-06-2016, 02:37 PM	#38
Donevyn Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: UP, WA Posts: 360	Another clarification in using 'TeamViewer'. This can't work with cross platforms, right. I.e. one person can't be on a Mac and the other PC?

03-06-2016, 04:12 PM	#39
strzepeksc All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 648	More Team Viewer Testing Head to Head I did some more testing with Team Viewer and it seems all it really can offer to OOTP head to head play is sharing the same screen and both users in control of the mouse. We need the ability to "hide" an opponents movement of the mouse so we can not see selections such as a pitch out, swing away, take a pitch, etc. If the opponent sees a team choosing to hit and run than the opponent can easily just counter a selection and pitch out! These mouse selections need to be hidden from the opponent. Now, am I correct in this matter ? Or do I have something incorrectly set up ? Also, I don't see a way to webcast (or is it broadcast) a head to head game through team viewer as head to head games are being played out. Or am I wrong on that point also ?