Smarter, more cunning AI GMs - Page 3

Matt Arnold · 02-21-2016, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Padreman

Matt please change you're profile picture OOTP 16 is so last year

Ok

deadringer · 02-21-2016, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by OzzieFan

My biggest want is a trading engine where teams will trade off their older talent at the trade deadline. As of edition 16 it is still really hard to get older players with big contracts from bad teams at that time of the year.

Yep, I couldn't agree more. Out of the race, trade older guys with big contracts or guys that they can't or won't resign this off season for whatever prospects they can get and teams trading prospects to get those guys as "summer rentals" to fill holes because of slumps or injuries.

PSUColonel · 02-21-2016, 08:06 PM

It feels much better in 17

perez24 · 02-21-2016, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by joefromchicago

They will be "Blackadder Cunning"

They will literally put the "b" in "subtle."

Habsfan18 · 02-21-2016, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by PSUColonel

I feel it's much better in 17

You beta testers are lucky!

olivertheorem · 02-21-2016, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by PSUColonel

I feel it's much better in 17

This makes me feel good about 17 (not that I didn't already!) because PSUColonel is more than willing to criticize where he thinks it's warranted.

IStillDream · 02-21-2016, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SirMichaelJordan

This is/was a problem specifically with catchers & First basemen. Teams seem to sign 2-3 catchers or first basemen that are capable of starting and overpays them. Its not a thing where one team decide to make this roster move its league wide. I am a few patches behind so I am not sure if this is still a thing in 16. Praying that its gone in 17.

Yep, I've seen this too--though mostly with the Dodgers, who have gone plenty berserk with money in the real world. I just used their fowl-up to my advantage--when they realized there was no reason to have Adrian Gonzales and Mike Napoli on the roster, I traded them RA Dickey for Napoli straight-up, then flipped Napoli and a solid-but-unspectaular reliever to the Nationals for Gio Gonzales.

The Game · 02-21-2016, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt Arnold

Their ratings for the new stats will be generated on import, so yeah, they'll essentially be randomized.

And will we be able to edit them? Will there be a way to import Gm traits of historical GM's or at least modern GM's? Either for 17 or 18?

rjl518 · 02-21-2016, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by OzzieFan

Yep... and also about the same to David Price. And then pocketing all that money they didn't spend aside from a Mike Leake contract.

I don't get it.
What is the issue?
The STL Cardinals have one of the best, if not, THE best front office in baseball.
The Redbirds get injuries to key players every year and what do they do?
Win the NL Central division AGAIN!
I'm not a Cards fan, but it must be nice knowing that every single season, is just another chance at winning a World Series title.
Boring!

MikeS21 · 02-21-2016, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by deadringer

Yep, I couldn't agree more. Out of the race, trade older guys with big contracts or guys that they can't or won't resign this off season for whatever prospects they can get and teams trading prospects to get those guys as "summer rentals" to fill holes because of slumps or injuries.

Exactly. I've posted about this issue for the last 2-3 versions of the game and keep being told it is unrealistic. Yet it happens every trade deadline. Love to see it in the game.

PSUColonel · 02-21-2016, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by olivertheorem

This makes me feel good about 17 (not that I didn't already!) because PSUColonel is more than willing to criticize where he thinks it's warranted.

I would also like to add, this is on average difficulty.

EDIT: in fact, I believe the trade AI makes the upgrade worthy in and of itself.

rjl518 · 02-21-2016, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by PSUColonel

I would also like to add, this is on average difficulty.

EDIT: in fact, I believe the trade AI makes the upgrade worthy in and of itself.

THIS

mindflux · 02-22-2016, 02:54 AM

They'll just have a new wave of players who with Cardinal magic will be all stars no matter what they were projected to be in the minors (Matt Carpenter anyone) and have their talent magically disappear just as easily if they ever leave the Cardinals. (Albert Pujols, Allen Craig, Joe Kelly)

Just a jealous Reds fan who thought we are the new young team taking the Central from the Cards for the next few years back in 2010 and now looking at 100-110 losses while the Cards continue winning a 100 every year, and their fans still complain. With four pennants and two titles in the last twelve years.

fcabanski · 02-22-2016, 10:12 AM

"If you're unlucky, you might have 29 Theo Epsteins."

They'll claim they can build a winner without spending money then slash payroll 10's of millions below where their mega market team should be in payroll. After a few years of that, they'll spend 1/4 of the accumulated savings on some superstars. Then when they get to the playoffs everyone will declare "see, you can build a winner without spending a lot of money".

mmartin68 · 02-23-2016, 12:19 PM

I will put my two cents in. I would also like to see selloffs, player rentals during the last year in the contract, etc.

02-21-2016, 08:06 PM	#43
PSUColonel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 13,108	It feels much better in 17 Last edited by PSUColonel; 02-21-2016 at 10:18 PM.

02-22-2016, 02:54 AM	#53
mindflux Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 22	Why should the Cardinals spend money? They'll just have a new wave of players who with Cardinal magic will be all stars no matter what they were projected to be in the minors (Matt Carpenter anyone) and have their talent magically disappear just as easily if they ever leave the Cardinals. (Albert Pujols, Allen Craig, Joe Kelly) Just a jealous Reds fan who thought we are the new young team taking the Central from the Cards for the next few years back in 2010 and now looking at 100-110 losses while the Cards continue winning a 100 every year, and their fans still complain. With four pennants and two titles in the last twelve years.

02-22-2016, 10:12 AM	#54
fcabanski Minors (Double A) Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 170	"If you're unlucky, you might have 29 Theo Epsteins." They'll claim they can build a winner without spending money then slash payroll 10's of millions below where their mega market team should be in payroll. After a few years of that, they'll spend 1/4 of the accumulated savings on some superstars. Then when they get to the playoffs everyone will declare "see, you can build a winner without spending a lot of money".

02-23-2016, 12:19 PM	#55
mmartin68 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Wooster, Ohio Posts: 135	I will put my two cents in. I would also like to see selloffs, player rentals during the last year in the contract, etc.