The Bug Report Thread

[MXD]

Originally Posted by JeffR

Aha, found the problem. There was a version released earlier that had an issue where most of the newly-generated bantam players in Canada were getting non-Canadian nationalities. This eventually starves the junior drafts of players, since they leave for their "home" countries before reaching midget. It was patched, but it looks like this save was started in the period where the bug was active, so unfortunately it's going to be stuck this way since the fix doesn't work retroactively.

Ouch. This is currently resolved for new games?

[tarashnat]

Originally Posted by Sebastian Palkowski

I hope you still see this:

The AI will only dress a player if needed. In your case it still had enough player dressed, so it made the lines you posted. If you dress the 6th d-man yourself, it would use it for the lines.

I know the concept of AI/Human Manager in the different areas is not optimal at the moment. We will now sit down and better define the roles and what it makes and not make with the different settings.

I think most NHL teams will try to dress 6 (or even 7) defensemen if they have them on the roster unless they have a uncommon player like Dustin Byfuglien who plays both forward and defense. Most of the teams in the NHL will over-shift the 5 remaining defensemen if one of the six starters gets injured during a game over putting a forward on defense. I am not referring to penalty killing or power play situations, or the shift after such, where players get caught out of position on the ice, but at even strength.

[Sebastian Palkowski]

Originally Posted by tarashnat

I think most NHL teams will try to dress 6 (or even 7) defensemen if they have them on the roster unless they have a uncommon player like Dustin Byfuglien who plays both forward and defense. Most of the teams in the NHL will over-shift the 5 remaining defensemen if one of the six starters gets injured during a game over putting a forward on defense. I am not referring to penalty killing or power play situations, or the shift after such, where players get caught out of position on the ice, but at even strength.

I think you got me wrong: the "problem" here is that with your settings (Lines + Tactics AI, transactions yourself) you moved a dressed Defender to the IR, so know one man less then allowed is dressed but the roster is still able to generate lines. So you don't get a popup asking you to repair the roster, instead the AI generates the lines (but without dressing/scratching any player, thats your job with your settings).

If you dress the remaining Defender, the AI would normally use him, if you ask the AI to setup your roster, it would dress the remaining Defender itself and use him.

You are right of course that it would be better if the AI would double shift a defender (or play with 2 1/2 defense lines) instead of moving a forward into a defense line (but to further check this out we must look deeper at the player in question).

We have to tweak the way Human Manager/AI is defined in all the areas, it is very unclear at the moment.

[tarashnat]

Originally Posted by Sebastian Palkowski

I think you got me wrong: the "problem" here is that with your settings (Lines + Tactics AI, transactions yourself) you moved a dressed Defender to the IR, so know one man less then allowed is dressed but the roster is still able to generate lines. So you don't get a popup asking you to repair the roster, instead the AI generates the lines (but without dressing/scratching any player, thats your job with your settings).

If you dress the remaining Defender, the AI would normally use him, if you ask the AI to setup your roster, it would dress the remaining Defender itself and use him.

You are right of course that it would be better if the AI would double shift a defender (or play with 2 1/2 defense lines) instead of moving a forward into a defense line (but to further check this out we must look deeper at the player in question).

We have to tweak the way Human Manager/AI is defined in all the areas, it is very unclear at the moment.

The option under Manager Options is "Set lineups" which (to most people) means who is dressed and what lines they are on. If it read "Set lines" then I would agree with the AI's making that move as valid based on my choices, though probably not desirable.

As the game has its primary focus on managing a hockey franchise, the manager tends to provide the players (roster) for a team's coach, while the coach's responsibility is to prepare the players for the matches and to utilize those players in the matches (who is dressed, line combinations, game tactics, training). This is how I think it makes sense to divide the responsibilities if someone wants to simulate in a "GM only" style.

[JeffR]

Originally Posted by MXD

Ouch. This is currently resolved for new games?

Yes, it won't happen in the current version.

[Leafs67]

I'm starting a new game in FHM 2, and it randomly crashes. I'm running through Steam on my Mac by the way. It says there was an unexpected error that the program stopped running, and gives me the option to reopen, which I select. The game starts to open, but then the window disappears and I get a popup from Steam saying that the "app is already running", even though it is obviously not. Last time this happened I had to shut down my computer to restart the game, and I can't remember exactly, but I may have lost all my save files (that did happen to me once, but it was right after I got the game, so I didn't really care). If this was the case, I don't want it to happen again, so any help would be appreciated.

Also, if I try to close Steam, it says I can't because FHM 2 is "still running".

[JeffR]

Originally Posted by Leafs67

I'm starting a new game in FHM 2, and it randomly crashes. I'm running through Steam on my Mac by the way. It says there was an unexpected error that the program stopped running, and gives me the option to reopen, which I select. The game starts to open, but then the window disappears and I get a popup from Steam saying that the "app is already running", even though it is obviously not. Last time this happened I had to shut down my computer to restart the game, and I can't remember exactly, but I may have lost all my save files (that did happen to me once, but it was right after I got the game, so I didn't really care). If this was the case, I don't want it to happen again, so any help would be appreciated.

Also, if I try to close Steam, it says I can't because FHM 2 is "still running".

I think we'll need to take a look at the file to see what's causing the crashes - could you upload it for us? Instructions here, or you can put it on a filesharing site like filedropper.com or dropbox and PM me the link to it.

[Leafs67]

Hey Jeff, I was able to figure it out this time. I do have another question though. I started a game in 2015-16, and created a few midget players born in 2000, expecting them to be drafted in the 2016 OHL priority draft that June. However, none of them were selected. Any idea why this is happening?

[JeffR]

Originally Posted by Leafs67

Hey Jeff, I was able to figure it out this time. I do have another question though. I started a game in 2015-16, and created a few midget players born in 2000, expecting them to be drafted in the 2016 OHL priority draft that June. However, none of them were selected. Any idea why this is happening?

Their OHL rights get set to "free" for players created with Create Player, which implies they're no longer draft-eligible, instead of "none", which leaves them eligible (assuming they meet the other requirements for the draft, like age and nationality/birthplace.) Edit them to none and it should work.

[beezer37_84]

Originally Posted by Drakkar

I have a problem. I have 705,000$ that I can't use (which is quite a lot, for a small budget team in the Swiss National League A). It's 705,000$ reserved for something called "Offered Contracts", but I don't recall offering anyone this amount. Also, there are no open offers visible, in the Free Agent Centre page.

Could anyone help? I really need to sign someone good, but with 705k gone, I only have 400k left, which is not enough.

Thanks!!!

Seemingly the same bug from FHM 2014. I've had it happen plenty of times too and it's a killer when you're in a lower league.

Anecdotally speaking it seems to occur when you offer someone a contract and then they end up getting signed by a team in a different league.

The player is then signed, your offer is no longer viewable hence no longer retractable, but that money offered is not removed from the offered contracts amount.

As far as I've seen it's permanent (doesn't get fixed at the beginning of a new season).

Not sure if there is something in commish mode that would help.

[NolaSola7]

Originally Posted by NolaSola7

Does it help to load a trace text ????

I think I am starting to believe it is my cpu, but I get crashes mostly during or after games .... sometimes seemingly if I am using the league a while, this is why I think it may be my cpu.... more I use, the more it is sure to happen eventually ... suddenly my cpu can not keep up?

I quoted this to reference it back to this saved file..

What is this file_ saved_game.dat ???

Does it show anything? thanks

**** won't upload here, says the file is invalid

[josephyw]

Little thing, but the tooltip for the Defensive Read abbreviation reads the same as Dressed... I'm guessing since they have the same shorthand.

[JeffR]

Originally Posted by NolaSola7

I quoted this to reference it back to this saved file..

What is this file_ saved_game.dat ???

Does it show anything? thanks

**** won't upload here, says the file is invalid

That's just a configuration file for the save file, it only contains information used to set up the "Load Game" menu on the start screen, nothing integral to the saves themselves.

[JeffR]

Originally Posted by josephyw

Little thing, but the tooltip for the Defensive Read abbreviation reads the same as Dressed... I'm guessing since they have the same shorthand.

Yup, that's exactly why, we'll have to change that abbreviation, thanks for catching it.

[NolaSola7]

Isn't this sure proof that my crashes are likely video card/driver related?

Never happened when I had Windows 8, only after updating to 10 ...

I mean things are manageable ... but maybe every 2nd game crashes....

But I can advance, I can do most things, it crashes outside of games sometimes (usually after extended navigating from window to window to player profile to player profile)

wouldn't it seem that it is the card by this?

[JeffR]

Originally Posted by NolaSola7

Isn't this sure proof that my crashes are likely video card/driver related?

Never happened when I had Windows 8, only after updating to 10 ...

I mean things are manageable ... but maybe every 2nd game crashes....

But I can advance, I can do most things, it crashes outside of games sometimes (usually after extended navigating from window to window to player profile to player profile)

wouldn't it seem that it is the card by this?

It seems like it, yeah. Assuming the drivers are all updated now, the next thing I would try is using different rendering modes (see the Preferences-Facegen menu from the start screen) and seeing if it works better under one of them.

[krownroyal83]

When on the players stats page if you click on game rating it's not putting them in order from best to worse or vice versa like it should. for example in my online league it has the GR in the order of 96,91,92,91,92,88,92 ect.......It should be 96,92,92.92,91,91,88 ect...

[danman5550]

So I'm in the playoffs right now. A game goes long (the goalies had 110+ minutes of ice time). The penalties are in the wrong order (or in the right order, because they happened in different overtimes). All 3 overtimes show under "OT 1".

[tward13]

Originally Posted by krownroyal83

When on the players stats page if you click on game rating it's not putting them in order from best to worse or vice versa like it should. for example in my online league it has the GR in the order of 96,91,92,91,92,88,92 ect.......It should be 96,92,92.92,91,91,88 ect...

Shouldn't the GR be in order from most recent to older game? That lets you follow a trend and is more meaningful than just listing the most recent in descending order.

[danman5550]

Originally Posted by tward13

Shouldn't the GR be in order from most recent to older game? That lets you follow a trend and is more meaningful than just listing the most recent in descending order.

He means sorting it by player. The column before 'last 5' frequently doesn't sort correctly in many of the screens.